Shootings in Paris - MOD NOTE UPDATED - READ OP

gandalf · 14-11-2015 01:54AM

brianregan09 wrote: »

The IRA were fighting for our countries freedom from an invading nation ............................................wtf do they have to do with ISIS or Muslims or any of that

They weren't fighting for my country or in my name. Cop on. They are murderers just like the ISIS thugs are murderers. I can just imagine the ISIS apologists speaking in exactly the same manner about their butchery.

Jayop · 14-11-2015 01:54AM

Red Kev wrote: »

Tell that to the victims of Omagh and Enniskillen. And to the forced suicide bombers that they used.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_bomb

Another one blaming the ra for omagh. Why do you even get involved of you're so Ill informed?

martyos121 · 14-11-2015 01:54AM

118 dead.

efb · 14-11-2015 01:54AM

Jayop wrote: »

So you admit it was a separate group. Great job

An Irish terrorist group with known overlaps

Laois_Man · 14-11-2015 01:54AM

GAAman wrote: »

There are some absolute class A muppets on this thread, trying to score points off each other like it matters when this is happening.

Seriously

Bravo

There's been several times I've had to try hard to resist making comment.

Just leave it out lads.

applehunter · 14-11-2015 01:54AM

languagenerd wrote: »

****ing hell. I can't stop crying for those poor poor people in the concert hall. They bought their tickets, put on their band tshirts, headed to the venue excited for a good show just like 1400 people here did when the same band played Dublin a few days ago, just like people do in every city every night of the week, just like my friends and I have done so many times. They were just there to listen to music for ****'s sake.

And the people at the match, who also bought tickets and travelled to the venue in high spirits, and the people in the bars who were just meeting with friends for a Friday night drink. They could have been any of us, any of our families...

There just aren't words. How the hell can people do this to other people? How the hell has society become so twisted?

Are you actually crying?

14-11-2015 01:54AM

The scariest thing about the Paris attacks is that they could have happened in just about any major European town or city. I was more expecting the next one to happen in London or another UK city after the taking out of Jihad John. This attack must have been planned some time ago.

Friday 13th had a sinister ring to it!

Jayop · 14-11-2015 01:54AM

Uncle Ben wrote: »

I know; however what's your view if they were recent migrants.

I'll admit I was wrong

Marje · 14-11-2015 01:55AM

Reuters’ translation of François Hollande’s address from around 11pm on Friday evening (UK time):

My dear compatriots,

As I speak, terrorist attacks of unprecedented proportions are underway in the Paris area. There are dozens killed, there are many injured. It is a horror.

We have, on my decision, mobilised all forces possible to neutralise the terrorists and make all concerned areas safe. I have also asked for military reinforcements. They are currently in the Paris area, to ensure that no new attack can take place. I have also called a cabinet meeting that will be held in a few minutes.

Two decisions will be taken: a state of emergency will be declared, which means that some places will be closed, traffic may be banned , and there will also be searches which may be decided throughout Ile de France (greater Paris). The state of emergency will be proclaimed throughout the territory (of France).

The second decision I have made is to close the borders. We must ensure that no one enters to commit any crimes and that those who have committed the crimes that we have unfortunately seen can also be arrested if they should leave the territory.

This is a terrible ordeal which once again assails us. We know where it comes from, who these criminals are, who these terrorists are.

In these difficult moments, we must - and I’m thinking of the many victims, their families and the injured - show compassion and solidarity. But we must also show unity and calm.

Faced with terror, France must be strong, it must be great and the state authorities must be firm. We will be.

We must also call on everyone to be responsible.

What the terrorists want is to scare us and fill us with dread. There is indeed reason to be afraid. There is dread, but in the face of this dread, there is a nation that knows how to defend itself, that knows how to mobilise its forces and, once again, will defeat the terrorists.

French citizens, we have not completed the operations. There are still some that are extremely difficult. It’s at this moment that the security forces are staging an assault, especially in a place in Paris.

I ask you to keep all your trust in what we can do with the security forces to protect our nation from terrorist acts.

Long live the Republic and long live France.

Gatling · 14-11-2015 01:55AM

topmanamillion wrote: »

So as I said if you see a jihadist gun wielding maniac there's a high chance that his gun was French made.

That's wrong very wrong

enfant terrible · 14-11-2015 01:55AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Extremely deep pockets. Likely misremembering, but I believe that ISIS are making something like ... $10m a week/month (it was in a report posted recently).

Does the US likely know the individuals funding ISIS in Saudi?

Phoebas · 14-11-2015 01:55AM

Red Kev wrote: »

Tell that to the victims of Omagh and Enniskillen. And to the forced suicide bombers that they used.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_bomb

Anyone who thinks that suicide bombers are the worst thing imaginable should remember that the IRA forced people to become suicide bombers for them.

BoJack Horseman · 14-11-2015 01:55AM

topmanamillion wrote: »

So as I said if you see a jihadist gun wielding maniac there's a high chance that his gun was French made.

No, I asked for an example.

Afaik, the FAMAS 5.56mm is the only French made rifle.....

I couldn't find any image of a jihadist using that rifle.

You say 'high chance'.... I'm simply asking for an example.

Zillah · 14-11-2015 01:55AM

Islamic extremism isn't an existential threat to Western civilisation. Violence like this is an atrocity, the deaths are a tragedy, but it's no threat to who and what we are. Liberal democracy can survive the Axis powers it will survive this with a shrug. They want you to get angry, they want you to call for revenge, because they want a war. They want boots on the ground in Syria and Iraq, that's their dream. Turn on innocent Muslims, go to war: you are doing exactly what they wanted to achieve with attacks like this.

Condemn what they've done, recommit to our own values, do our best to prevent future attacks, and leave them to stew in frustration in whatever war-torn shithole they're currently trapped in.

The best revenge is a life lived well.

It's not liberal, it's not PC; I'm not asking you to be nice or weak, I'm saying violence is exactly what they're hoping for, don't be a sucker.

meepins · 14-11-2015 01:55AM

acb121 wrote: »

Muslims have been engaged in murderous rampages since the 620s.

Why might they stop now ?

Hugs, teddybears and applause will melt their little jihadi hearts.

efb · 14-11-2015 01:55AM

Jayop wrote: »

Another one blaming the ra for omagh. Why do you even get involved of you're so Ill informed?

An Irish Republican organisation claimed responsibility for the callous murder of innocents in Omagh

14-11-2015 01:55AM

timthumbni wrote: »

Bbc news here is pathetic. Girl presenter plainly hasn't a clue quoting social media then retracting it a few minutes later. Newsnight earlier on had the usual smarter than smart types telling everyone about the poor disenfranchised in France. Has the bbc got an endless supply factory of these idiots?

In fairness, there was purposefully no information being given out.

Daniel S wrote: »

What's the link to Calais?

Seemingly the refugee camp there has been set on fire in retaliation for the attacks. Now, it's not 100% confirmed yet- some reporting it is, some saying it's a hoax.

Jayop · 14-11-2015 01:55AM

efb wrote: »

An Irish terrorist group with known overlaps

A different organization. Can you not just admit that you were wrong?

Severard · 14-11-2015 01:55AM

"Terrorism has no religion" is trending now on Twitter, the irony in this is just too much. Also France is a "gun-free" zone, that has worked out exceedingly well tonight hasn't it?

longshanks · 14-11-2015 01:56AM

Some scumbags showing their colours on this thread. Shameful really.

questionmark? · 14-11-2015 01:56AM

Phoebas wrote: »

Aw c'mon - bombs in bins in shopping streets in British towns that murdered children.

Lets not go crazy with the revisionism here
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Oh **** Off. Take one bit of my post to fit your agenda!!! I dont support the IRA and never will but at least I know they are differant from ISIS.

Jayop · 14-11-2015 01:56AM

efb wrote: »

An Irish Republican organisation claimed responsibility for the callous murder of innocents in Omagh

It wasn't the Ira though. That was your and his assertion.

JP Liz V1 · 14-11-2015 01:56AM

140 death toll now #prayersforparis

14-11-2015 01:56AM

We can be as PC as we like in Europe but there is something very wrong with a religion that can be interpreted as God wants you to go throw bombs at kids in a concert hall. For those who'll bleat on that that's not what that vile book says, turn on sky news.

timthumbni · 14-11-2015 01:57AM

Dick phelan wrote: »

Exactly besides at least the IRA had a goal which frankly most would agree with, just not the methods they used of course ISIS have no cause they only wish to see people die.

"Most would agree with the IRAs goals" I live in Northern Ireland and I can assure you that most people did not nor do not agree with their goals. Easy from a distance to support something.

Dick phelan · 14-11-2015 01:57AM

Sand wrote: »

That's absolute revisionist garbage. The IRA bombed shops, restaurants, homes and parades. They even kidnapped mens families to force them to act as suicide bombers to save the lives of their wives and children which were held by IRA gunmen under threat of execution. They were and are an evil organisation. SF welcomed the Balcome Street Gang to a party gathering with thunderous applause like they were rock stars rather than people who threw nail bombs into a restaurants packed with families out having a meal.

Christ, you see people in this very thread quoting the spectre of Irish people being blamed for supporting IRA atrocities in the 1980s as if it didnt happen. And you can still find Irish people *today* supporting those very same atrocities. Shameful.

I assume you must despise Nelson Mandela? A man very similar to Gerry Adams.

efb · 14-11-2015 01:57AM

questionmark? wrote: »

Oh **** Off. Take one bit of my post to fit your agenda!!! I dont support the IRA and never will but at least I know they are differant from ISIS.

Why are they different? A terrorist organisation than used violence and butchering of innocent people

languagenerd · 14-11-2015 01:57AM

applehunter wrote: »

Are you actually crying?

Why would I say it if I wasn't?

Voltex · 14-11-2015 01:57AM

140 dead as reported by RTE. This is making Charlie Hebdo massacre look like a stroll in the park!!

Sir Osis of Liver. · 14-11-2015 01:57AM

RTE just reported that there's a hot air balloon full of Jehovas Witnesses heading for Skibbereen Town Hall.

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