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Shootings in Paris - MOD NOTE UPDATED - READ OP

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  • #1442
    Pudsy33
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,919 ✭✭✭✭Pudsy33


    How did the IRA become the topic? Jesus christ people grow up.


  • #1443
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 31,828 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    iguana wrote: »
    I know volunteers currently in the camp who have confirmed that there was a fire in the camp tonight which has now been put out but destroyed roughly 40 homes. Whether or not it was deliberate is not known.
    It's a cold night, this could just be a camp fire out of control as opposed to an "incident!"


  • #1444
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    inforfun wrote: »
    Big, deep pockets, those sponsors in Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

    Extremely deep pockets. Likely misremembering, but I believe that ISIS are making something like ... $10m a week/month (it was in a report posted recently).


  • #1445
    mobby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭mobby


    BBC reporting children murdered also. Don't know what to say


  • #1446
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Theboinkmaster wrote: »
    What a cvnt

    That's the Charlie Hebdo attacks


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  • #1447
    Uncle Ben
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭Uncle Ben


    Jayop wrote: »
    I would bet every penny I have that these attacks were carried out by people already in France.

    Yeah they were in Paris tonight.😨


  • #1448
    meepins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 447 ✭✭meepins


    .


  • #1449
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,201 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Terrorists are our common enemy .


  • #1450
    GT_TDI_150
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,917 ✭✭✭✭GT_TDI_150


    I'm off ... here's hoping there are no further incidents tonight and the dead toll on the innocents side doesnt rise during the night ... on the attackers side, hopefully your death is painfull ...

    And may your virgins in the afterlife all be ugly ****ers!


  • #1451
    acb121
    Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭acb121


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    .... it's about preventing sh!t like this from happening in the future ....

    Muslims have been engaged in murderous rampages since the 620s.

    Why might they stop now ?


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  • #1452
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,202 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    digzy wrote: »
    Are you for fcukin real? Jesus Christ :rolleyes:
    I remember the shame I used to feel being Irish visiting Britain after IRA attacks. There was a fair amount of extra scrutiny when we arrived off the boat, but I understood it fully - in hindsight I'm amazed just how understanding the British people were that the IRA & Sinn Fein represented only a tiny minority.

    Hopefully it'll be the same here with Muslim people in general - but I think that it is up to Muslim leaders themselves to make it clear that these people are unrepresentative of them - and if not a Section 31 equivalent should be brought in to get the hatemongerers off of our screens & social media.


  • #1453
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Jayop wrote: »
    How is that the same name? Different group different name.

    They clearly saw themselves as taking up the mantle


  • #1454
    moc moc a moc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭moc moc a moc


    Blacktie. wrote: »
    At least learn to spell his name.

    Eh.. do you understand that it's an Arabic name, and therefore any transliteration to our (Roman/latin) alphabet is open to interpretation?

    The only "correct" spelling is محمد. There, argue with that :rolleyes:


  • #1455
    Jayop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,377 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    Uncle Ben wrote: »
    Yeah they were in Paris tonight.😨

    As in not recent migrants


  • #1456
    digzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,051 ✭✭✭digzy


    brianregan09 wrote: »
    The IRA were fighting for our countries freedom from an invading nation ............................................wtf do they have to do with ISIS or Muslims or any of that

    not in my name


  • #1457
    Sever Tomorrow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 158 ✭✭Sever Tomorrow


    That Donald Trump tweet is a response to the Charlie Hebdo shootings, judging by the date.


  • #1458
    Red Kev
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,793 ✭✭✭Red Kev


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    The IRA gave up their weapons and always had a strict policy of targeting military officers not civilians. It is extremely unlikely ISIS would do anything of the sort.


    Tell that to the victims of Omagh and Enniskillen. And to the forced suicide bombers that they used.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_bomb


  • #1459
    Sand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    The IRA gave up their weapons and always had a strict policy of targeting military officers not civilians. It is extremely unlikely ISIS would do anything of the sort.

    That's absolute revisionist garbage. The IRA bombed shops, restaurants, homes and parades. They even kidnapped mens families to force them to act as suicide bombers to save the lives of their wives and children which were held by IRA gunmen under threat of execution. They were and are an evil organisation. SF welcomed the Balcome Street Gang to a party gathering with thunderous applause like they were rock stars rather than people who threw nail bombs into a restaurants packed with families out having a meal.

    Christ, you see people in this very thread quoting the spectre of Irish people being blamed for supporting IRA atrocities in the 1980s as if it didnt happen. And you can still find Irish people *today* supporting those very same atrocities. Shameful.


  • #1460
    enfant terrible
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    Both are responsible. This isn't about apportioning blame, it's about preventing sh!t like this from happening in the future. Brute force is one largely unsuccessful way to do that as has been seen widely over the last ten years. Another is to stop antagonising an entire ethnic demographic by treating their countries and their countries of origin like Western resource farms.

    What about mass deportations of suspected terror suspects, do you think that could lesser further attacks?


  • #1461
    topmanamillion
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭topmanamillion


    BoJack Horseman wrote: »
    Example?
    The five biggest exporters in 2010–14 were the United States, Russia, China, Germany and France, and the five biggest importers were India, Saudi Arabia, China, the United Arab Emirates (UAE) and Pakistan.
    So as I said if you see a jihadist gun wielding maniac there's a high chance that his gun was French made.


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  • #1462
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Polish journalist reporting that the Calais camp really is on fire.


  • #1463
    Jayop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,377 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    efb wrote: »
    They clearly saw themselves as taking up the mantle

    So you admit it was a separate group. Great job


  • #1464
    languagenerd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭languagenerd


    ****ing hell. I can't stop crying for those poor poor people in the concert hall. They bought their tickets, put on their band tshirts, headed to the venue excited for a good show just like 1400 people here did when the same band played Dublin a few days ago, just like people do in every city every night of the week, just like my friends and I have done so many times. They were just there to listen to music for ****'s sake.

    And the people at the match, who also bought tickets and travelled to the venue in high spirits, and the people in the bars who were just meeting with friends for a Friday night drink. They could have been any of us, any of our families...

    There just aren't words. How the hell can people do this to other people? How the hell has society become so twisted?


  • #1465
    Damo 2k9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,513 ✭✭✭Damo 2k9


    Apparently 118 people dead at the concert hall, its unbelievable.

    https://twitter.com/NewsThisSecond/status/665329017009008641


  • #1466
    timthumbni
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Bbc news here is pathetic. Girl presenter plainly hasn't a clue quoting social media then retracting it a few minutes later. Newsnight earlier on had the usual smarter than smart types telling everyone about the poor disenfranchised in France. Has the bbc got an endless supply factory of these idiots?


  • #1467
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    enfant terrible wrote: »
    What about mass deportations of suspected terror suspects, do you think that could lesser further attacks?

    Innocent until proven guilty. Convicted terrorists or conspirators? Deport the f*ck out of them.


  • #1468
    Daniel S
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭Daniel S


    What's the link to Calais?


  • #1469
    Uncle Ben
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭Uncle Ben


    Jayop wrote: »
    As in not recent migrants

    I know; however what's your view if they were recent migrants.


  • #1470
    Filmer Paradise
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Filmer Paradise


    Pudsy33 wrote: »
    How did the IRA become the topic? Jesus christ people grow up.

    I suppose it's because they were murdering scum, just like this lot.

    You think not?


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  • #1471
    Custardpi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    Both are responsible. This isn't about apportioning blame, it's about preventing sh!t like this from happening in the future. Brute force is one largely unsuccessful way to do that as has been seen widely over the last ten years. Another is to stop antagonising an entire ethnic demographic by treating their countries and their countries of origin like Western resource farms.

    While Western policies have certainly helped cause a hell of a lot of instability around the world & have often played into Jihadists hands the reality is that Al Qaeda & ISIS have expended far more effort into slaughtering non Sunni Muslims than fighting the West. They are not latter day Che Guevaras fighting the evil imperialists. They are religious fanatics who want to purify the world (or at least the lands they claim for their "Caliphate") back into the 7th Century as they see it.


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