Shootings in Paris - MOD NOTE UPDATED - READ OP

Old Jakey wrote: »

The day Europe's innocence well and truly died.

Come off it ffs. History extends far beyond your lifetime, unspeakable things happened in Europe decades ago.

It looks terrible at the shopping mall as well, lots of people on the ground.

Jayop wrote: »

I was planning on a weekend in Amsterdam in January. I'll be going to Paris now. ****ed if we let these bastards win.

Why not sign up for the Marines?

Even if most Muslims disapprove of these attacks, which I certainly believe; enough are radicalized to cause Europe a lot of problems for the next few generations.

But of course the liberals are certain no refugees were radicalised. If even one (or their children) causes a terrorist attack like this then it's not worth bringing them in.

Facekicking 2 The Future wrote:

Lots of people have died unnecessarily tonight, and for what? The politicians will pay lip service, saying something like "we must stand together in this moment" like they always do. But they created this mess and the blood is on their hands

donvito99 wrote: »

I'm sorry, but that's bollocks.

The families of loved ones killed tonight would say bollocks to you as well.

People at a football game
People at a concert
People having a meal out in restaurant
Feck sake - terrorists trying to strike fear into people doing normal recreational activities
tragic

Voltex wrote: »

Personally I think this will be Europe's 9/11. We have to wake up to the threat we face. We need to use all the means we have to defend ourselves agaisnt an insidious threat in the guise of a pretend faith.

Madrid 2004?

Voltex wrote: »

Personally I think this will be Europe's 9/11. We have to wake up to the threat we face. We need to use all the means we have to defend ourselves agaisnt an insidious threat in the guise of a pretend faith.

9/11 was the first significant terrorist attack on the US in years. This is the seconds massacre in Paris this year.

Can't believe I'm quoting Piers Morgan, as if tonight couldn't get any more bizarre. But he's talking sense for once..

@piersmorgan: These murderers aren't refugees.
Nor are they real Muslims.
They're terrorists who've hijacked a religion for nefarious gain. #paris

Something has been very wrong in the world for some time, and it's not going to get better any time soon

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

and people still defend them.

this isn't going away until organised religion goes away.

Who's defending them?

It's a horrific act but do you really think closing the door on people and breeding a society full of racism, hate and anger towards everyone else is really the key in stopping all of this?

These are extremist monsters who have hijacked religion as a means to justify their actions.

I'm not religious or overly political in any way but I couldn't live in a society where people couldn't express themselves in their own way.

My thoughts are with those special forces gunmen who went into that room tonight God only knows what is going through their heads right now

Custardpi wrote: »

If the attackers are veterans of the Syrian/Iraqi conflict or have trained in Afghanistan or an African Islamist stronghold then they'd be well capable of outmatching amateurs. Even if they haven't a fiercely determined person who is not only prepared to kill but doesn't give a damn about his own safety is likely to get the better of some tough talking gun nut pissing himself as he tries to remember how to take the safety off.

*IF*

Most of these guys are amateurs. That's why they target unarmed civilians in soft targets like restaurants, stadiums and concerts. Not because they are strong. But because they are weak.

You ever see the film 4 Lions? It was a comedy inspired by real Jihadist efforts. If I recall correctly, the main inspiration was Jihadists plotting to ram a US navy ship with an explosives packed boat. The Jihadists packed the boat with explosives, which then sank in the harbour. The director of 4 Lions stated his whole comedy was inspired by two questions. 1. Who of the watching Jihadists spoke first? 2. What did he say?