Shootings in Paris - MOD NOTE UPDATED - READ OP

Gatling wrote: »

That could be a raid by military /police forces

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Whether they're third, fourth or fifth generation is irrelevant. Whether they are personally discriminated against is also irrelevant. When the Troubles were ongoing, many Irish Americans - some of whom were several generations there - were massively supportive of terrorism So much so that I remember a video of a U2 concert at which Bono lashed out at many he'd spoken to for being so ignorant.

The point is, if you're a young person of Middle Eastern descent growing up in the West today, you turn on the TV, watch the news, watch hollywood action films, watch political debates, browse the internet and what you get from it is that the West views the middle east as Western territory to be exploited at will. There is no denying this. And even if you're only a several generations on descendent, that's still going to piss you off, just as much as it pissed off Irish Americans of several generations to watch the British Army slaughter people on Bloody Sunday, or footage of that civil rights march where the RUC beat the sh!te out of that woman when they ambushed the march.

It makes you angry. Just like many Irish people felt anger in their guts when walking out of Michael Collins or The Wind That shakes The Barley. And in these cases, it's something that's happening now, that Western governments are complicit in and are totally unapologetic about. Supporting scum like the government of Saudi Arabia. Undermining democratically elected governments and installing fascist puppets, like in Egypt. Supporting imperialism and colonisation by a "western-esque" regime such as Israel. Invading and bombing the sh!t out of places like Iraq and Afghanistan. Openly declaring, in all but words, that any country which does not bend to Western foreign policy will face consequences for not doing so.

It cannot be denied that the climate these young people are growing up in, is one of "we own the middle east, and the people there are nothing but irrelevant savages who stand in the way of us getting free stuff". And that will always make people angry.

Superhorse wrote: »

Clonskeagh Mosque should be shut down tomorrow. Funded by the Saudi scumbags I don't want my daughters blown up in the Luas by these bas tards.