Shootings in Paris - MOD NOTE UPDATED - READ OP

kippy · 13-11-2015 11:49PM

Stinicker wrote: »

Islamic State Terrorists ISIS

I doubt, any state knowingly let ISIS in........

You've got to remember that we've had plenty home grown religious fundamentalists in the UK and Ireland over the years, hardly a reason to kick out the rest of the catholics and protestants who aren't terrorists...

Isaiah · 13-11-2015 11:49PM

efb wrote: »

Want to quote the verses???

Flights to the middle East are cheap at the moment, why not live there if you love them so much.

rob316 · 13-11-2015 11:49PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Doubtful - they attacked at least six locations simultaneously including a venue which would have had a reasonable level of security - the Stade de France where the French President was in attendance. With weapons which include nail bombs, that takes more than a few hours to put together.

There are cells in place, with the borders open it would be ignorant to think they aren't setting up in every major city in Europe.

Harry Palmr · 13-11-2015 11:49PM

leavingirl wrote: »

What are you talking about? The only people doing the invading are the UK and America.

Wake up

France attacked the forces of Colonel Gadaffi, France has bombed IS in Iraq.

Ulysses Gaze · 13-11-2015 11:49PM

Superhorse wrote: »

Liberal do gooder media have blood on their hands tonight. They have cheerlead the direct importation of Muslim terrorists into Europe from Syria all year and now comes the blowback.

Unless of course the culprits turn out to be second or third generation in? What do you suggest then? Revoking all Muslims citizenship and fcking them all back to where they "came" from?

Good luck with that one.

crazygeryy · 13-11-2015 11:49PM

A message from @prefpolice to all Parisians:
If you are at home, at your family's home or in professional spaces in Île-de-France, please stay indoors unless it is absolutely necessary. Reinforce the surveillance of entrances, and please welcome those who might need it,

Scary.

efb · 13-11-2015 11:49PM

CptMackey wrote: »

Koran 2: 191-193 kill them where ever you find them.

Koran 2 :216 fighting is prescribed for you

Them? Who are they?

It's two half quotes

MRnotlob606 · 13-11-2015 11:50PM

Here comes the vague generialisations and tarring of folk with the one brush.

captbarnacles · 13-11-2015 11:50PM

Just watched a vine of inside the restaurant by accident. Really wish I hadn't. Those poor people. Awful.

IrishTrajan · 13-11-2015 11:50PM

Warning - graphic content

Video shows injured civilian, blood everywhere

https://twitter.com/OopsCestDit?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Jayop · 13-11-2015 11:51PM

With Open Gates wrote: »

Anybody who is still in favor of Islamic immigration after this latest incident is a fool. Israel has the right idea. Build a wall to keep them out and if they get uppity bring out the bulldozers

The migrants are running from this **** in their daily life.

13-11-2015 11:51PM

NSFW

(the text for the link isn't displaying for me, so just in case it isn't for others)

Video of wounded after the attack. There is some gore, so please watch at your own discretion
https://twitter.com/moushi93160/status/665285095675314176/video/1

Video of gunfire being exchanged. No gore, but clearly heard shots.
https://twitter.com/dihlaz_Y/status/665290545930088449/video/1

Hermy · 13-11-2015 11:51PM

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

An ideology that says an entire mass of people should be blamed for the actions of a few is just as poisonous. In fact, it's the same poison.

Isn't that war in a nutshell. The masses suffer the consequences or otherwise for the ideologies of their leaders.

Skintwin · 13-11-2015 11:51PM

According to Sky, thegunmen in the Bataclan may be shooting the hostages one by one

Son Of A Vidic · 13-11-2015 11:51PM

My thoughts and condolences to all those poor people who died and who may yet die tonight

. Hopefully the French security services can bring about a quick and successful resolution to what's happening in Paris. I would also like to wish those same security personal, the men & women who will risk their lives tonight to keep everyone safe. I hope they will return to their own families tonight safe & well when their mission is over. Long may France live by the principles of Liberté, égalité and fraternité and never give in to those who wish to ferment hate and division between peoples of different races & creeds. Vive la france!

efb · 13-11-2015 11:51PM

Isaiah wrote: »

Flights to the middle East are cheap at the moment, why not live there if you love them so much.

You are very much a fan of segregation aren't you???

I like living in a republic

evosteo · 13-11-2015 11:51PM

crazygeryy wrote: »

A message from @prefpolice to all Parisians:
If you are at home, at your family's home or in professional spaces in Île-de-France, please stay indoors unless it is absolutely necessary. Reinforce the surveillance of entrances, and please welcome those who might need it,

Scary.

grim

refusetolose · 13-11-2015 11:52PM

RobertKK wrote: »

U2 were playing at that concert venue earlier in the week.

nope

they played at the much bigger AccorHotels Arena

they play there again tomorrow night and sunday night

syntheticjunk · 13-11-2015 11:52PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

Mod:
The blaming of any race, religion, culture, etc. stops now. No one knows who did what ffs, give it a rest.

So no one to blame?

blackcard · 13-11-2015 11:52PM

Facekicking 2 The Future wrote: »

As my dad so eloquently put it tonight before going to bed:

"The shower of fcuks"

My dad would say and it didn't matter who perpetuated the crime "Man's inhumanity to Man" Ultimately, this is murder.

suicide_circus · 13-11-2015 11:52PM

99% of Islamic extremists victims are Muslim. This is not Muslim v Christian. This is YOUR way of life on the line.

RobertKK · 13-11-2015 11:52PM

People inside the concert venue have used social media pleading for the police to storm the venue as the terrorists are slaughtering them one by one.

abff · 13-11-2015 11:53PM

Yes, there are lots of loonies using religion as an excuse to kill others. The sad fact is that a lot of those loonies would find another excuse if they didn't have religion as their justification.

Harry Palmr · 13-11-2015 11:53PM

rob316 wrote: »

There are cells in place, with the borders open it would be ignorant to think they aren't setting up in every major city in Europe.

Indeed. There is no reason to suppose Europe is not riddled with such groupings. Lets not forget Ireland was host to a group associated with Jihad Jane.

Arrests in Ireland[edit]

The same day as the unsealing of LaRose's indictment, four men and three women in their 20s and 40s were arrested in Waterford and Cork, Ireland, with regard to an alleged plot to assassinate Vilks.[2][31] Irish police said most of those arrested were foreign residents of the country.[34]

They reportedly included three Algerians (two of them a married couple), a Croatian (a Muslim convert), a Palestinian, a Libyan, and a U.S. national—Jamie Paulin-Ramirez.[28] Five of the people were released in early March 2010, while Ali Charaf Damache, a 10-year Algerian resident of Ireland, and the Libyan, Abdul Salam al-Jahani, were ordered held without bail.[35]

LaRose spoke online about her plans with at least one of the suspects apprehended in Ireland, according to a U.S. official.[22] Her main contact in Ireland was believed to be Damache, who lived in Waterford with Paulin-Ramirez.[36] Gardaí believe LaRose may have visited Ireland to contact the suspects in 2009.[37]

LaRose was the only American woman in recent years to have been charged in the U.S. with similar terrorist violations.[38] Some terrorism experts pointed to LaRose's apparent mental instability, arguing she was an anomaly and not representative of a trend towards women jihadists.[3

FalconGirl · 13-11-2015 11:53PM

Dick phelan wrote: »

I'll admit i am genuinely scared, the world is changing into a very dark place.

And look at the lack of leadership and indecisiveness at EU level these days. A strong leader needs to step up to the plate quickly.

cournioni · 13-11-2015 11:53PM

Christopher Hitchins had it right as usual.

Isaiah · 13-11-2015 11:53PM

Deleted User wrote: »

How about we just talk about the actual incident and occurring news, other than the pointless meandering arguments that always happens when these take place?

So ignore the wider context? Rose tinted glasses.

IrishTrajan · 13-11-2015 11:53PM

FalconGirl wrote: »

This will piss off the French no-end. The fear will be unreal there for everyone going forward.

This isn't just going to piss off the French. It's going to push more and more moderates into that mindset that saw Europe rip the world apart in 1914 and 1939.

Sever Tomorrow · 13-11-2015 11:53PM

Peist2007 wrote: »

I'll let him answer obviously but Paris is especially incendiary and always has. Walking to the Stade De France is an eye opener. San Denis. It's basically a shanty town either side of big barriers for the entire run to the stadium.

La Haine was made in 1998 (i think). French immigrants in Paris have always been ripe for evil extremism due to their social and economic isolation.

efb hasn't answered but has posted many times on the thread since. Maybe he missed my post or has ignored it, not for me to say.

I get your point about vulnerable young minds and social conditions in that area. But it doesn't explain the jump to such horrific acts. I look to the radicalization by the extremist Salafist/Wahabbi thinkers in the mosques and also Western foreign policy decisions which ignite the fire of jihadism. Look at the trend of young British men leaving for Syria. There was a great article in (I think) last weekends magazine of the Irish Times explaining the stories of young British ISIL members who were radicalized and joined the ranks, friends accounts and even Imams in the local area who noticed and tried (eventually failing) to stop the boys from becoming radicalized and leaving.

Islamism is a problem, let's not apologize for saying so.

Gatling · 13-11-2015 11:53PM

syntheticjunk wrote: »

So no one to blame?

Terrorists are to blame

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