Flightradar24 Thread Part II

colbarr · 12-11-2015 04:38PM

JP McManus wrecking Dublin ATC's head! https://www.flightradar24.com/7f61b14

polydactyl · 12-11-2015 04:41PM

Any idea whats happening with EI123? Have good friends on it with a small baby. Must be going mental at this stage.

lolie · 12-11-2015 04:46PM

Pretzill wrote: »

And Air France 1816 also go around diverting to Belfast - great respect for ATC and the pilots in this weather.

Still hasn't landed yet, must be fairly low on fuel now.

Edit: just touched down, 3 hour flight.

colbarr · 12-11-2015 04:46PM

polydactyl wrote: »

Any idea whats happening with EI123? Have good friends on it with a small baby. Must be going mental at this stage.

Just took off.

https://www.flightradar24.com/EIN123/7f6026c

The_Wanderer · 12-11-2015 05:00PM

What's the story with FR338?

http://www.flightradar24.com/RYR7LX/7f5f39a

homerjay2005 · 12-11-2015 05:02PM

The_Wanderer wrote: »

What's the story with FR338?

http://www.flightradar24.com/RYR7LX/7f5f39a

refuel in liverpool i assume

JCX BXC · 12-11-2015 05:24PM

FR507 (BRS-DUB) divert to Liverpool
FR338 (LTN-DUB) diverting to Liverpool
FR8012 (WMI-DUB) diverting to Manchester
FR7045 (AGP-DUB) diverted to Liverpool
AF1816 (CDG-DUB) diverted to Belfast
EI403 (FCO-DUB) diverted to Shannon
EI545 (NCE-DUB) diverted to Shannon
EI3291 (CWL-DUB) diverted to Belfast

Did I miss anything else?

Also today
FR2359 (ACE-NOC) diverted to Dublin (Will continue on the outbound joruney from DUB-ACE, scheduled for 5pm)
FR6673 (LPL-NOC) diverted to Shannon (Will continue on the outbound journey from SNN-LPL soon)

JCX BXC · 12-11-2015 05:51PM

EI545 from the earlier diverted NCE-DUB flight returning to DUB from SNN (Without PAX). Some creative flight paths around dublin now due to aircraft requesting alternate headings to avoid weather.

homerjay2005 · 12-11-2015 06:23PM

Carnacalla wrote: »

FR507 (BRS-DUB) divert to Liverpool
FR338 (LTN-DUB) diverting to Liverpool
FR8012 (WMI-DUB) diverting to Manchester
FR7045 (AGP-DUB) diverted to Liverpool
AF1816 (CDG-DUB) diverted to Belfast
EI403 (FCO-DUB) diverted to Shannon
EI545 (NCE-DUB) diverted to Shannon

Did I miss anything else?

Also today
FR2359 (ACE-NOC) diverted to Dublin (Will continue on the outbound joruney from DUB-ACE, scheduled for 5pm)
FR6673 (LPL-NOC) diverted to Shannon (Will continue on the outbound journey from SNN-LPL soon)

did those Liverpool flights come back to Dublin yet?

EDIT : fr704 on approach from Liverpool now.

Senecio · 12-11-2015 06:29PM

I work in Northern Cross with a great view of the rw28 approach. One of the Ryanair flights this afternoon aborted an approach just as it was crossing the Malahide Rd. Seemed an awful long way out to decide to abort. Can't be very nice up there.

Spanish Eyes · 12-11-2015 06:42PM

As a pax I can only say.....

This thread has helped me enormously to not fear a rocky approach anywhere really. The information given here has shown me that there are maximum wind speeds and gusts beyond which airlines say NO!. The pilots (god bless em), can wait for a lull etc in the hold. and then make a decision as they always do based on safety and guidelines.

But the important thing I got from all this, is that hysteria is largely unwarranted. Even if you are fekin terrified. Those at the pointy end have it sussed.

How many times have I seen go arounds, holding patterns, diversions, and sometimes landings here.

All done within safety parameters.

It has made me feel a lot more secure when the plane is swaying from side to side on approach. Either we are going to make it, or we will go around, or divert.

Hats off to crew and ATC.

And those pilots are so calm and cool when this happens too. Another + to make me happier in those conditions!

I love watching and listening to FR24 and ATC though!

JCX BXC · 12-11-2015 07:01PM

Wind at dub 250 degrees, 33kts gusting 48!
Was only 18kts 5 minutes ago.
Down to 29kts now mean speed.

TedR · 12-11-2015 07:47PM

jimbis wrote: »

Great day for hanging out at rwy 16. Wish I was out that way

Drove out to have a look at R16 on the go this afternoon, arrived precisely as they changed back to fecking R24 :-)

Meant to answer Mech earlier, feed is great, thanks

TedR · 12-11-2015 07:49PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

As a pax I can only say.....

This thread has helped me enormously to not fear a rocky approach anywhere really. The information given here has shown me that there are maximum wind speeds and gusts beyond which airlines say NO!. The pilots (god bless em), can wait for a lull etc in the hold. and then make a decision as they always do based on safety and guidelines.

But the important thing I got from all this, is that hysteria is largely unwarranted. Even if you are fekin terrified. Those at the pointy end have it sussed.

How many times have I seen go arounds, holding patterns, diversions, and sometimes landings here.

All done within safety parameters.

It has made me feel a lot more secure when the plane is swaying from side to side on approach. Either we are going to make it, or we will go around, or divert.

Hats off to crew and ATC.

And those pilots are so calm and cool when this happens too. Another + to make me happier in those conditions!

I love watching and listening to FR24 and ATC though!

I very much agree

it is very reassuring to hear ATC and the pilots dealing with everything so calmly, cant underestimate what they do and how well they do it

de biz · 12-11-2015 08:30PM

Senecio wrote: »

I work in Northern Cross with a great view of the rw28 approach. One of the Ryanair flights this afternoon aborted an approach just as it was crossing the Malahide Rd. Seemed an awful long way out to decide to abort. Can't be very nice up there.

EI121 (A330)was occupying the runway at the time powering up for departure.
The FR crew anticipated the potential seperation and/or wake issue.
Excellent decision making.

Chris_5339762 · 12-11-2015 08:48PM

They then went to Manchester or Liverpool AFAIK, which was an odd decision. They'd been holding for a while but to just head off straight away I was surprised with.

PinOnTheRight · 12-11-2015 08:48PM

de biz wrote: »

EI121 (A330)was occupying the runway at the time powering up for departure.
The FR crew anticipated the potential seperation and/or wake issue.
Excellent decision making.

The EI121 departed runway 16. There was a RYR8AR on approach to 16 prior to this but their reason for breaking off the approach was the imminent change to runway 28. They were still with approach at the time.

Unless you're talking about another scenario... ?

smurfjed · 12-11-2015 08:53PM

They'd been holding for a while but to just head off straight away I was surprised with.

What would you expect them to do?

Woodville56 · 12-11-2015 08:58PM

smurfjed wrote: »

What would you expect them to do?

But why divert to Manchester or Liverpool as against going to Belfast or Shannon as other flights had done ??

JCX BXC · 12-11-2015 09:04PM

Woodville56 wrote: »

But why divert to Manchester or Liverpool as against going to Belfast or Shannon as other flights had done ??

Flight crews usually nominate a preferred diversion airport depending on the forecasted conditions at the airports. SNN and BFS probably didnt have the best conditions forecasted. Liverpool and Manchester are also a little closer to Dublin afaik.

de biz · 12-11-2015 09:18PM

PinOnTheRight wrote: »

The EI121 departed runway 16. There was a RYR8AR on approach to 16 prior to this but their reason for breaking off the approach was the imminent change to runway 28. They were still with approach at the time.

Unless you're talking about another scenario... ?

Correction EI123....

Senecio · 12-11-2015 10:36PM

de biz wrote: »

EI121 (A330)was occupying the runway at the time powering up for departure.
The FR crew anticipated the potential seperation and/or wake issue.
Excellent decision making.

That makes sense, cheers

TheFitz13 · 12-11-2015 10:40PM

Will all these diversions affect passenger numbers?

colbarr · 13-11-2015 08:58AM

Carnacalla wrote: »

Flight crews usually nominate a preferred diversion airport depending on the forecasted conditions at the airports. SNN and BFS probably didnt have the best conditions forecasted. Liverpool and Manchester are also a little closer to Dublin afaik.

I was listening to ATC yesterday afternoon and I heard one pilot ask if ATC could ring Belfast and ask if the had space for them to park. And looking at AF1816's flight path, it looked like it was heading for BHD, but opted instead for BFS. So it could have been a capacity issue due to there being a lot of diversions at the time as well.

RadioRetro · 13-11-2015 01:48PM

A few minutes ago there was IAA554 of the RAF cruising at 30 (thirty) knots at FL 250 over Dublin Airport but it's now disappeared. What could that have been?

calnand · 13-11-2015 06:21PM

Just saw that Ei109 is taking a very different route to its normal transatlantic route, is that due to weather?

http://www.flightradar24.com/EIN10E/7f89713

Comhrá · 13-11-2015 06:48PM

Probably avoiding the strong Westerly jetstream further South:

Animation here: http://www.stormsurfing.com/cgi/display_alt.cgi?a=natla_250

highlydebased · 13-11-2015 06:50PM

Indeed, very Northerly tracks owing to the jetstream

chinwag · 13-11-2015 07:03PM

calnand wrote: »

Just saw that Ei109 is taking a very different route to its normal transatlantic route, is that due to weather?

http://www.flightradar24.com/EIN10E/7f89713

Would the last part of call sign for that aircraft be 109 or 10E?

b757 · 13-11-2015 07:12PM

chinwag wrote: »

Would the last part of call sign for that aircraft be 109 or 10E?

Shamrock 10E

Flightradar24 Thread Part II

Comments