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Should I change both tires?

  • 11-11-2015 12:31AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭


    Due to wear & tear, I need to replace my GP 4000 rear tire on my road bike, so have bought a new set of GatorSkins for the winter.
    Although my old rear tire needs to be replaced, my front tire seems fine.
    Is it best to replace both at same time or could I get away with just replacing the worn rear?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Muckers


    lismore7 wrote: »
    Due to wear & tear, I need to replace my GP 4000 rear tire on my road bike, so have bought a new set of GatorSkins for the winter.
    Although my old rear tire needs to be replaced, my front tire seems fine.
    Is it best to replace both at same time or could I get away with just replacing the worn rear?

    Move the good front tyre to the rear and fit a new one on the front. Continue doing this so only fitting 1 new tyre each time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,146 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    I reckon my front will last 3 times longer than my rear. I buy one tire at a time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭lismore7


    Is it okay to use a GP4000 on 1 wheel and a new GatorSkin on the other?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭custom_build


    Are gator skins a good choice for a winter tyre? They're as slippery as a butchers prick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭BrianHenryIE


    lismore7 wrote: »
    Due to wear & tear, I need to replace my GP 4000 rear tire on my road bike

    Have you started getting punctures or does it just look worn? Mine looks worn and I'm surprised I'm not getting punctures, but it's lasted months since I first thought that. Great tyres.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,487 ✭✭✭TheBlaaMan


    Winter....? I'd be inclined to leave the GP 4000 on the front....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Muckers


    GP 4000 tyres are in my opinion the best all round tyres available


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Muckers


    lismore7 wrote: »
    Is it okay to use a GP4000 on 1 wheel and a new GatorSkin on the other?

    Yes but if I was you I would return the gator skins and change them for a pair of GP4000's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭cdaly_


    Are gator skins a good choice for a winter tyre? They're as slippery as a butchers prick.

    I rode gators through the last 5 winters without grip problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Eamonnator


    Is nobody worried about having mismatched tyres on their bike?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭lismore7


    That was 1 of my queries. Are mismatched tires safe?

    My rear GP 4000 tire has a chunk out of it and the inner material is showing, so it's deffo being replaced. It's done over 5000kms, so has served me well.

    So if not Gators for winter cycling, what's best options?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,118 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    lismore7 wrote: »
    That was 1 of my queries. Are mismatched tires safe?
    I think Eamonator's tongue is firmly embedded in his cheek!

    There's nothing unsafe about it but it is not aesthetically pleasing.

    Just to add - I'd take Gators any day over GP4000's even if they require a bit more care in the wet. I've never had any luck with GP4000's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭JBokeh


    Mismatched tyres are fine, the front one does the steering, and the rear one does the driving so you'd not notice an imbalance between them as they're doing different jobs. However if you were railing corners on the edge of grip one will let go before the other, though either way you're going to end up on your ass if a tyre lets go at them speeds. I've a vittoria on the rear and a GP4000 on the front, seems to be doing the job for me, though the vittoria makes a noise like a car following behind me. When it wears i'll put the conti on the back, and buy something else for the front

    On the MTB it's generally the done thing to put a grippier tyre on the front, and a faster, less grippy one on the rear, to avoid the front washing out from under you while cornering, because a rear slide is easier to control, though i've not experienced road tyres which such variations in grip as you'd get on an MTB


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,560 ✭✭✭The tax man


    Eamonnator wrote: »
    Is nobody worried about having mismatched tyres on their bike?

    I ran different coloured tryes on my bike once.:cool:

    My personal favorite when it comes to tyres is Vittorias Open Pave cg. Good puncture resistance, excellent grip and roll lovely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    lismore7 wrote: »
    Are mismatched tires safe?

    yes


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,421 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    I found gatorskins slippy and complete biitches to change cos the beading is so hard and they punctured a few times. Ride gp4000s all year round. Love them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭cython


    I think Eamonator's tongue is firmly embedded in his cheek!

    There's nothing unsafe about it but it is not aesthetically pleasing.

    Just to add - I'd take Gators any day over GP4000's even if they require a bit more care in the wet. I've never had any luck with GP4000's.

    Potentially worth noting that there are some cases whereby different tyres are sold in pairs with this being a pushed feature, e.g. Conti GP attack/force. YMMV as far as making your own mixes go, but just highlighting there is no rule that they must be the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭lismore7


    Thanks Lads.

    Last question....
    Seems that the Gators are getting a thumbs down for winter & wet grip.....
    So with that in mind, if one was to purchase winter tires at this time of year, what are the better options?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,118 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    lismore7 wrote: »
    Thanks Lads.

    Last question....
    Seems that the Gators are getting a thumbs down for winter & wet grip.....
    So with that in mind, if one was to purchase winter tires at this time of year, what are the better options?
    What are your priorities?

    Budget?
    Speed/rolling resistance?
    Puncture resistance?
    Durability?

    With tyres, there's often a trade off - what you gain in one area, you may lack in another. Tyres which offer best grip tend to be less durable. Puncture resistant tyres tend to be heavier and have greater rolling resistance...etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭lismore7


    What are your priorities?

    Budget?
    Speed/rolling resistance?
    Puncture resistance?
    Durability?

    With tyres, there's often a trade off - what you gain in one area, you may lack in another. Tyres which offer best grip tend to be less durable. Puncture resistant tyres tend to be heavier and have greater rolling resistance...etc.

    Looking for grip in the wet, durablity and puncture resistance...just for the winter time


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,249 ✭✭✭nilhg


    lismore7 wrote: »
    Thanks Lads.

    Last question....
    Seems that the Gators are getting a thumbs down for winter & wet grip.....
    So with that in mind, if one was to purchase winter tires at this time of year, what are the better options?

    GP 4 seasons, more puncture protection than 4000s, much nicer to ride than Gatorskins


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    cython wrote: »
    but just highlighting there is no rule that they must be the same.

    Rule #8 says they should match to the part f the frame nearest them, or to black
    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭lismore7


    nilhg wrote: »
    GP 4 seasons, more puncture protection than 4000s, much nicer to ride than Gatorskins


    Ahh...I tried 4 Seasons last winter and to my horror, the side wall split in 2 places on 1 tire, after just a few weeks.
    I was well hacked off and sent them back to the company I bought them from and they "supposidly" sent them back to Germany...That was a year ago and despite a few more emails from me...I had no reply...So won't be wasting my money on those tires again..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭ford2600


    lismore7 wrote: »
    Ahh...I tried 4 Seasons last winter and to my horror, the side wall split in 2 places on 1 tire, after just a few weeks.
    I was well hacked off and sent them back to the company I bought them from and they "supposidly" sent them back to Germany...That was a year ago and despite a few more emails from me...I had no reply...So won't be wasting my money on those tires again..

    I would use GP 4 season, only for once in a while(far to often for my liking) they have sidewall failures.

    Do you use mudguards? You might fit 25mm durano plus but 23mm should fit under the typical road bike mudguard. They meet all your criteria and are way more rugged than 4 season but a little heavier but cheaper. I don't use anything else.

    Once puncture in two years, a piece of glass


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭lismore7


    ford2600 wrote: »
    I would use GP 4 season, only for once in a while(far to often for my liking) they have sidewall failures.

    Do you use mudguards? You might fit 25mm durano plus but 23mm should fit under the typical road bike mudguard. They meet all your criteria and are way more rugged than 4 season but a little heavier but cheaper. I don't use anything else.

    Once puncture in two years, a piece of glass

    Yes, I do use a rear mudguard but my bike will fit 25mm tires as I've running on that size for over a year now.
    So those Durano Plus tires, should be fine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭ford2600


    lismore7 wrote: »
    Yes, I do use a rear mudguard but my bike will fit 25mm tires as I've running on that size for over a year now.
    So those Durano Plus tires, should be fine.

    25mm durano plus fit bigger than gp4 season,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,402 ✭✭✭G1032


    lismore7 wrote: »
    Thanks Lads.

    Last question....
    Seems that the Gators are getting a thumbs down for winter & wet grip.....
    So with that in mind, if one was to purchase winter tires at this time of year, what are the better options?

    Schwalbe Durano Plus Smartguard

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/mobile/ie/en/schwalbe-durano-plus-road-tyre-smartguard/rp-prod128939


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