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Timmaay · 10-11-2015 11:27AM

http://www.magentadirect.ie/cubicle-lime/CUBICAL-LIMESTONE-FLOUR much difference between this and the likes of agrical etc from Glanbia. Huge price difference! I usually throw down abit of hydrated lime once a week and likes of agrical then twice a day, so using this would be probably grand instead?

Brown Podzol · 10-11-2015 11:39AM

Timmaay wrote: »

http://www.magentadirect.ie/cubicle-lime/CUBICAL-LIMESTONE-FLOUR much difference between this and the likes of agrical etc from Glanbia. Huge price difference! I usually throw down abit of hydrated lime once a week and likes of agrical then twice a day, so using this would be probably grand instead?

I use this type twice a day. Does the job,cows are generally clean and little or no mastitis.

http://www.magentadirect.ie/MASTERCAL-LIMESTONE-10

Buford T. Justice XIX · 10-11-2015 11:51AM

whelan2 wrote: »

Thank you Mr Christy mooore

Dawggone wrote: »

Or Drake....or Aerosmith...

Close.....but no cigar.

Ralph Waldo Emerson.

http://www.biography.com/people/ralph-waldo-emerson-9287153

Dawggone · 10-11-2015 01:10PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Close.....but no cigar.

Ralph Waldo Emerson.

http://www.biography.com/people/ralph-waldo-emerson-9287153

Ahhhh the wonder of Google...:)

Dawggone · 10-11-2015 01:41PM

darragh_haven wrote: »

My current boss was a farmer in Zimbabwe for 35 years. Dairy, Beef and corn. Slavery was still very prevalent before they had to flee.

Altho the treatment of the black population by the white farmer was extremely poor, after the take over a lot of them are worse off.

+1. A bit of balance.

The start of that troubled country's problems were when Cecil Rhodes arrived with maxim (later vickers) guns to grab the local resources...

Dawggone · 10-11-2015 01:53PM

kowtow wrote: »

My best man arrived from Rhodesia (as an eight or nine year old) in the West Country with his family, carrying all they could in the form of a few largish diamonds. They were quite a well off, but tough, farming & army family and when they arrived in the UK they found the first obvious place to live and bedded down - sending the kids off to school.

So when the boys at school asked him where he lived he naturally said "that big barn up on the hill beyond xxxx".... and they naturally assumed that it was one of the big stylish oak barn conversions which are popular around there.

It was only around the first Exeat when some boy went back to visit him that his friends discovered it wasn't a barn conversion at all - just a barn!

One of my first loves was a white girl from Harare. She was from a middle class family whose business was printing.
I spent a year there under her spell (:)).

One of the things that never sat well with me was the hatred and disdain the whites had for blacks...it was palpable.

Exeat....
I had a cousin, same age as me that went to Harrow.

oxjkqg · 10-11-2015 02:20PM

Timmaay wrote: »

http://www.magentadirect.ie/cubicle-lime/CUBICAL-LIMESTONE-FLOUR much difference between this and the likes of agrical etc from Glanbia. Huge price difference! I usually throw down abit of hydrated lime once a week and likes of agrical then twice a day, so using this would be probably grand instead?

Bought a big bag of that yesterday, looks good value.

kowtow · 10-11-2015 03:39PM

Dawggone wrote: »

+1. A bit of balance.

The start of that troubled country's problems were when Cecil Rhodes arrived with maxim (later vickers) guns to grab the local resources...

"Whatever happens we have got
The maxim gun
and they have not."

kowtow · 10-11-2015 03:42PM

not to change the subject

but how narrow a passage do you think I could get away with, if it had a single row of cubicles on one side and a feed face at the other.

And preferably a 2.7m scraper which I happen to have handy in the middle of it.

I'm thinking 80cm of a stand in front of the face, 2.7m for the scrape, and then c.2.7m for the beds - only 4 or so bays long, but is that going to be too narrow with cows lying down / standing up / passing etc.?

Buford T. Justice XIX · 10-11-2015 04:01PM

kowtow wrote: »

not to change the subject

but how narrow a passage do you think I could get away with, if it had a single row of cubicles on one side and a feed face at the other.

And preferably a 2.7m scraper which I happen to have handy in the middle of it.

I'm thinking 80cm of a stand in front of the face, 2.7m for the scrape, and then c.2.7m for the beds - only 4 or so bays long, but is that going to be too narrow with cows lying down / standing up / passing etc.?

I have a row of cubicles 7', scraper passage 12' and then the feed barrier.

Ideally I would like to have an extra foot of scraper space as the width behind the cows is tight enough and I don't have big horses of cows either.

And any narrower and there is a pile of sh1re on the cubicles.

Deepsouthwest · 10-11-2015 04:45PM

oxjkqg wrote: »

Bought a big bag of that yesterday, looks good value.

How much? Bennetsbridge 30/70% mix is costing around €190/tonne bag, cubisan from coop source about €120/tonne bag. Any opinions?

Timmaay · 10-11-2015 05:51PM

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

How much? Bennetsbridge 30/70% mix is costing around €190/tonne bag, cubisan from coop source about €120/tonne bag. Any opinions?

128 delivered, probably the same stuff so?

Brown Podzol · 10-11-2015 06:15PM

Timmaay wrote: »

128 delivered, probably the same stuff so?

Some info on cubicle lime.

http://www.magentadirect.ie/CUBICLE-LIME-INFORMATION

mf240 · 10-11-2015 07:37PM

We use agrical here . Find it goes a lot further that some of those grey limes.

You can get white rhino in a ton bag too.

kowtow · 10-11-2015 09:13PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

I have a row of cubicles 7', scraper passage 12' and then the feed barrier.

Ideally I would like to have an extra foot of scraper space as the width behind the cows is tight enough and I don't have big horses of cows either.

And any narrower and there is a pile of sh1re on the cubicles.

Hmm.. we are a wee bit tight on that basis.

Might creep the whole thing up the hill a bit and narrow the tractor part of the feeding passage - it would be about 4.5m / 15ft at it's narrow end at the moment and I only have to feed one side.

If I took a foot or two back off that it might help things.

Not sure if I could get longer wings for the existing scraper, will take a picture of it tomorrow and maybe someone will recognise the make..

jack o shea · 10-11-2015 09:20PM

how much are automatic scrapers these days?

mahoney_j · 10-11-2015 09:41PM

Just watched that ear to the ground piece with ester Walsh milking 800 cows .very impressive operator and sounds like a person who you'd like to work for

Wildsurfer · 10-11-2015 10:26PM

jack o shea wrote: »

how much are automatic scrapers these days?

I got a quote last week of €9800 ex VAT for 3 runs of scrapers and electronic power unit fitted. Each run is 4 bays long with about a 10' run onto slats so about a 70' run.

Wildsurfer · 10-11-2015 10:29PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Just watched that ear to the ground piece with ester Walsh milking 800 cows .very impressive operator and sounds like a person who you'd like to work for

And a smashing looking crossbred herd... It would nearly make you think about ordering a few jersey straws for next May!

jack o shea · 10-11-2015 10:36PM

wildsurfer i just have a 3 bay shed with small cubicles in it,had bulling heifers in it last year, was thinking of taking them out and putting in big cow cubicles but then of course the passage would need to be scraped.would 4 k cover box and all for just 1 scraper 3 bay long track and about 6 foot more id say.

Greengrass1 · 10-11-2015 11:02PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Just watched that ear to the ground piece with ester Walsh milking 800 cows .very impressive operator and sounds like a person who you'd like to work for

And a very nice set up. One of shane maxxwells farms I believe.
Nice to show that you don't have to be from a dairying background to be successful in this game

visatorro · 10-11-2015 11:22PM

kowtow wrote: »

not to change the subject

but how narrow a passage do you think I could get away with, if it had a single row of cubicles on one side and a feed face at the other.

And preferably a 2.7m scraper which I happen to have handy in the middle of it.

I'm thinking 80cm of a stand in front of the face, 2.7m for the scrape, and then c.2.7m for the beds - only 4 or so bays long, but is that going to be too narrow with cows lying down / standing up / passing etc.?

have 12 ft 6 slat at feeding barrier. don't think id like it any narrower tbh. I don't have enough space for all the cows so there is always a few on the move. no splashes on cubicles. saying that the passages to get to the cubicles are narrow as I put in drinkers in them. only one cow can pass but I don't think this matters too much because if im feeding they are rushing towards to feed, one way traffic. when they are full they aren't in too much of a rush anywhere so cow full isn't that much of an issue.

Deepsouthwest · 10-11-2015 11:51PM

Brown Podzol wrote: »

Some info on cubicle lime.

http://www.magentadirect.ie/CUBICLE-LIME-INFORMATION

So Slurry Cal appears to be the business so! To improve slurry by 50% sure is some claim. Even if it's improved it by 10% it wouldn't be long paying for itself. Anyone have any positive experiences with slurry type bugs?

Wildsurfer · 10-11-2015 11:58PM

jack o shea wrote: »

wildsurfer i just have a 3 bay shed with small cubicles in it,had bulling heifers in it last year, was thinking of taking them out and putting in big cow cubicles but then of course the passage would need to be scraped.would 4 k cover box and all for just 1 scraper 3 bay long track and about 6 foot more id say.

I would say the a box is about 3k and each run 2k but I'd say the box you would be getting would be cheaper if your only getting a 1 or 2 run box. Are you thinking of getting grant? Or would you look at a second hand unit?

jack o shea · 11-11-2015 12:09AM

i have only thought about it over the last couple of days as im really stuck for space didnt realise how stuck til i had to house everything at once with the bad weather. never thought about 2nd hand, could be buying trouble tho?

whelan2 · 11-11-2015 12:41PM

Scrapers are great when they work right. Out in the lashing rain last night fixing mine

Timmaay · 11-11-2015 01:50PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Scrapers are great when they work right. Out in the lashing rain last night fixing mine

Didn't bloody run here last night for some reason, cows came in covered in shjte this morning, annoying.

whelan2 · 11-11-2015 01:55PM

Timmaay wrote: »

Didn't bloody run here last night for some reason, cows came in covered in shjte this morning, annoying.

oil leak here and air locked then, took ages to get pressure right on pump

kowtow · 11-11-2015 02:27PM

whelan2 wrote: »

oil leak here and air locked then, took ages to get pressure right on pump

While we're on scrapers can anyone identify the make of this saddle? It might well be dairypower as it runs on their track but apart from a number written in weld I can't see any identifying features.

Was wondering if I could get a slightly longer pair of "wings" to take it from 9ft to 10ft or thereabouts.

also - did anyone use precast kerbing / heelstones when putting in cubicles? Is it easy to get, expensive?

RightTurnClyde · 11-11-2015 02:39PM

kowtow wrote: »

While we're on scrapers can anyone identify the make of this saddle? It might well be dairypower as it runs on their track but apart from a number written in weld I can't see any identifying features.

Was wondering if I could get a slightly longer pair of "wings" to take it from 9ft to 10ft or thereabouts.

also - did anyone use precast kerbing / heelstones when putting in cubicles? Is it easy to get, expensive?

On the scraper, Ya its a dairyymaster. The wings can be bought in different lengths. Most are generic so the likes of Delaval or Alfco will fit the scraper you have, maybe with small alterations but they generally fit each other.
On the kerb, we put up a 8 x 2 inch timber, supported with stubs of rebar drilled into the passage side. Filled in the trunking for the cubicle, kept the trunking back 4inches from the timber. Pour the concrete, tap the timber faces to prevent honeycombing. Job done

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