US police shooting - 6 year old boy slain

BoJack Horseman · 08-11-2015 01:25AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact they apparently weren't fulltime Marshals?

Just this paragraph from the BBC article confused me slightly -

They were members of the cities police department but also worked 2nd jobs as marshals on the side.

BoJack Horseman · 08-11-2015 01:28AM

And this was posted yesterday on the Guardian.

The boy, Jeremy Mardis, died on Tuesday night after police shot into a car driven by his father, Chris Few. On Thursday, Colonel Michael Edmonson, head of the Louisiana state police, denied earlier reports that Few had been reversing his car toward the officers, who then had to defend themselves. “No. I didn’t say that,” he told the Guardian. “That didn’t come from me.”

At a press conference, Edmonson initially described the shooting as “an exchange of gunfire”, but later clarified that only the officers had shot, and that investigators had found no gun in Few’s car. Officials had previously declined to confirm whether officer gunfire was responsible for Mardis’s death.

Edmonson also said video footage of the incident does exist, but that investigators have not reviewed it. He added that the officers involved – there are four – had so far refused to speak with state police investigators. Police have not released the names of the involved officer

Now subsequently the names of the officers have been released after their body-cam footage was indeed reviewed by state prosecutors & the murder & attempted murder charges filed.....

but no reversal into the officers car may have occurred.

StringerBell · 08-11-2015 01:28AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact they apparently weren't fulltime Marshals?

Just this paragraph from the BBC article confused me slightly -

He explained their employment status in the press conference though, in the video in the article iirc.

Overheal · 08-11-2015 01:31AM

Body Camera footage and dash camera footage was preserved. Expect it to go public when their court dates are held.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/louisiana-police-charge-officers-death-year-boy/story?id=35037116

Truly disgusting case. The police and prosecutors would do well to throw the whole book at these two.

StringerBell · 08-11-2015 01:33AM

Well, and I don't wanna sound too terrible here, but since this time it was a white kid I do expect these two cops/murderers to fry.

StringerBell · 08-11-2015 01:35AM

I can only imagine how bad the footage is when before any trial a member of the department will publicly say

"This badge has been tarnished by the following two individuals."

08-11-2015 01:38AM

So the major news stations are unclear what happened,and the police have an ongoing investigation going on,but people on here know EXACTLY what happened! Bizarre is not the word!

timthumbni · 08-11-2015 01:38AM

StringerBell wrote: »

Well, and I don't wanna sound too terrible here, but since this time it was a white kid I do expect these two cops/murderers to fry.

Well Louisiana has the death penalty but I'd say there's no change of that happening.... Unless the video in question reveals some completely mad sh/te.

StringerBell · 08-11-2015 01:39AM

droidman123 wrote: »

So the major news stations are unclear what happened,and the police have an ongoing investigation going on,but people on here know EXACTLY what happened! Bizarre is not the word!

For your post?

Bizarre is a pretty good description of it tbh

BoJack Horseman · 08-11-2015 01:40AM

timthumbni wrote: »

Well Louisiana has the death penalty but I'd say there's no change of that happening.... Unless the video in question reveals some completely mad sh/te.

The officers were charged with 2nd degree murder & 2nd degree attempted murder.

I could be wrong, but I think if that happens the prosecutor is unlikely to seek the death penalty.

08-11-2015 01:41AM

StringerBell wrote: »

For your post?

Bizarre is a pretty good description of it tbh

Read back through the posts....seriously

StringerBell · 08-11-2015 01:41AM

timthumbni wrote: »

Well Louisiana has the death penalty but I'd say there's no change of that happening.... Unless the video in question reveals some completely mad sh/te.

I doubt they will go for death, its a second degree murder charge, and an attempted second degree murder charge. A lot could hinge on the survivors testimony also assuming he doesn't die. (I think he is critical but stable)

Life for both, I mean fry as in they will face the full force of the law.

BoJack Horseman · 08-11-2015 01:41AM

droidman123 wrote: »

but people on here know EXACTLY what happened! Bizarre is not the word!

Everything I've posted has a link or a quote behind it.

what is a fact is that the cities police department & state prosecutor watched the video & then decided to place a murder charge on the two officers.

We'll see for ourselves when the case goes to trial and the video released.

timthumbni · 08-11-2015 01:45AM

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

The officers were charged with 2nd degree murder & 2nd degree attempted murder.

I could be wrong, but I think if that happens the prosecutor is unlikely to seek the death penalty.

You are right but have cops in the U.S. ever been given the death penalty for killing someone on duty even if convicted of 1st degree murder? It just seems unlikely to me.

SEPT 23 1989 · 08-11-2015 01:46AM

I don't think anybody wants to see that video

Overheal · 08-11-2015 01:47AM

droidman123 wrote: »

So the major news stations are unclear what happened,and the police have an ongoing investigation going on,but people on here know EXACTLY what happened! Bizarre is not the word!

"I'm not gonna talk about it, but I'm going to tell you this. It is the most disturbing thing I've seen and I will leave it at that."

Louisiana Police spokesman Mike Edmonson

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strandroad · 08-11-2015 01:47AM

From what the father's girlfriend says:

Moments later, she said, as the cars pulled away from the light, she saw two marshals’ cars – marked in black and white – approaching from behind with their lights flashing. She looked into Few’s car as he pulled away, and he was pointing at his son’s head, indicating that he was in the car and he wasn’t sure what to do.

Few was afraid of the marshals, she said, because he and and one of the marshals on the scene had a prior personal conflict.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/05/louisiana-police-deny-car-reversing-six-year-old-shot

08-11-2015 01:49AM

Overheal wrote: »

"I'm not gonna talk about it, but I'm going to tell you this. It is the most disturbing thing I've seen and I will leave it at that."
Louisiana Police spokesman Mike Edmonson

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Yeah I seen the video posted but at the end of the day it will be days,maybe weeks before the facts emerge

timthumbni · 08-11-2015 01:51AM

StringerBell wrote: »

I doubt they will go for death, its a second degree murder charge, and an attempted second degree murder charge. A lot could hinge on the survivors testimony also assuming he doesn't die. (I think he is critical but stable)

Life for both, I mean fry as in they will face the full force of the law.

Didn't notice that the charge was 2nd degree murder/ attempted murder. See post 45 for my thoughts on it may not matter anyway.

I watch too many movies. Any time I hear fry (not an Ulster one) I think death penalty. Lol.

SEPT 23 1989 · 08-11-2015 01:57AM

What's the reaction on the streets over there after a six year old with a disability is gunned down by the police

Overheal · 08-11-2015 01:57AM

timthumbni wrote: »

You are right but have cops in the U.S. ever been given the death penalty for killing someone on duty even if convicted of 1st degree murder? It just seems unlikely to me.

.. pretty much. Hard to find many instances of it anyway. in most cases the death penalty (like in SC, a murder trial for a cop that shot a man in the back who was fleeing police) there has to be statutory "aggravating circumstances" in other words the officer would have to be in the middle of committing a crime such as an armed robbery, committing torture, poisoning a victim, or drug trafficking that additionally involved a murder. Basically in the line of duty, cops aren't going to be doing anything that would merit the death penalty - even for a murder conviction - in the line of duty.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/13/michael-slager-death-penalty_n_7058514.html

Overheal · 08-11-2015 02:01AM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

What's the reaction on the streets over there after a six year old with a disability is gunned down by the police

Americans don't go out 'on the street' we use Twitter and order Dominos...

BoJack Horseman · 08-11-2015 02:01AM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

What's the reaction on the streets over there after a six year old with a disability is gunned down by the police

I think it goes without saying that we know what the reaction would be if the respective races were reversed!

RedemptionZ · 08-11-2015 02:03AM

That bodes really really bad if law enforcement are already against them before a trial has commenced. They must have no chance. I'll wait until proven guilty before I condemn them.

So seeing as they're a different race than the victims is this a hate crime too? Should we expect riots? God I hate that 'racism' narrative. Police in America have too much power and they, like most people would, abuse that power regularly.

walshyn93 · 08-11-2015 02:06AM

Sand wrote: »

In fairness thats OTT, you have no idea what the scenario was anymore than I do. The police must have been outside their vehicle. *If* the car was being reversed towards them they may have feared being crushed between the two cars.

Also, I am curious as to why a father got involved in a car chase with the police whilst his son was buckled into the seat beside him. There is too much that is simply unknown at this point to start giving out to people making fairly innocuous statements.

As for joyriders - I really don't care what happens to them.

You don't care what happens to joyriders but you seem perfectly happy to come to the defence of child killers.

Licked any nice boots lately?

Junkyard Tom · 08-11-2015 02:15AM

Overheal wrote: »

Body Camera footage and dash camera footage was preserved. Expect it to go public when their court dates are held.

Hopefully not.

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I don't think anybody wants to see that video

I definitely don't and will not watch it if it does surface. Who the hell wants to watch a child being killed?

TheLastMohican · 08-11-2015 02:22AM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

What's the reaction on the streets over there after a six year old with a disability is gunned down by the police

I'm in a cul-de-sac and am seething.

Overheal wrote: »

.. pretty much. Hard to find many instances of it anyway. in most cases the death penalty (like in SC, a murder trial for a cop that shot a man in the back who was fleeing police) there has to be statutory "aggravating circumstances" in other words the officer would have to be in the middle of committing a crime such as an armed robbery, committing torture, poisoning a victim, or drug trafficking that additionally involved a murder. Basically in the line of duty, cops aren't going to be doing anything that would merit the death penalty - even for a murder conviction - in the line of duty.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/13/michael-slager-death-penalty_n_7058514.html

It will take a popular politician's offspring to be sent to the promised land to invoke general government consensus.

Overheal wrote: »

Americans don't go out 'on the street' we use Twitter and order Dominos...

You're in Juno, aren't you?

Son Of A Vidic · 08-11-2015 02:26AM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Shooting first and asking questions later, the usual modus operandi of the US police. And as usual, there'll be a whole bunch of feigned outrage from US politicians, and ultimately no action whatsoever will be taken.

They should probably stop wasting time & money training them to use their batons, pepper spray or tasers. Since they seem to have a penchant for blowing you away, even if you present no threat to them.

Overheal · 08-11-2015 02:27AM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Hopefully not.

I definitely don't and will not watch it if it does surface. Who the hell wants to watch a child being killed?

Nobody should derive pleasure in it. It's just like military atrocities, like the helicopter footage wikileaks made its name on. I'd rather be fully aware of the depth and scope of whats happening in my world. Ignorance is apathy.

TheLastMohican · 08-11-2015 02:30AM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Hopefully not.

I definitely don't and will not watch it if it does surface. Who the hell wants to watch a child being killed?

But it is imperative ......... to see justice done. Or are you going to believe the Police Dept PUBLIC RELATIONS person? And a pixillated rehash?

Remember, this is America ....... and the pervasive paranoia that drove the Founding Fathers to these shores is alive, well AND government backed.

US police shooting - 6 year old boy slain

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