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Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 ( Mod Note linked in OP 29/12)

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  • #842
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Several past players have the same opinion and they are right imo.

    Do you think we should have won last night??


  • #843
    Gringo180
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    2ndcoming wrote: »
    Try not to read too much into the scoreline against a ruthless killing machine like Bayern.

    Why cant we not be like Bayern? The infrastructure is there at the club to make it happen. That should be the clubs aim, but our transfer policy makes this goal impossible to achieve. Instead we rely on 2nd rate players who are too inconsistent to bring any long term success at the highest level. If I was Ozil, Kos or Sanchez I would be looking for a way out of the club, these players deserve to be competing with the best in Europe, we are a million miles off that. Its always one step forward and two steps back with us the past I dont know how many seasons.


  • #844
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,778 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    efb wrote: »
    How often had it happened?? Thought this was a new "record" according to you???

    6 nil at Chelsea.
    6 - 3 at City.
    5 - 1 at Pool.
    4 - 4 at Newcastle after being 4 up.

    Often enough.
    Last night was our worst in the CL.


  • #845
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Gab and Mert are only good with Kos beside them. It's like the island parable you can't leave them on their own


  • #846
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,778 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    efb wrote: »
    Do you think we should have won last night??

    Never said that.
    I mentioned our soft defending. And it was soft.


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  • #847
    efb
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    tayto lover wrote: »
    6 nil at Chelsea.
    6 - 3 at City.
    5 - 1 at Pool.
    4 - 4 at Newcastle after being 4 up.

    Often enough.
    Last night was our worst in the CL.

    When we'e they???


  • #848
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Never said that.
    I mentioned our soft defending. And it was soft.

    Soft for a reason- best defenders out- up against one of the exceptionional teams in Europe


  • #849
    Gringo180
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Watch yourself.
    They don't like criticism around here.

    I honestly cant believe some of the comments I am reading. Some nearly even justifying last nights massacre. I'm disgusted by yet another tame, gutless display by these players.


  • #850
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,778 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    efb wrote: »
    Name them? If you are going to say Wright I'll just pass

    Adams, Right, Meson and Winterbourne off the top of my head.


  • #851
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Adams, Right, Meson and Winterbourne off the top of my head.

    Wright is his name and Winterburn

    Didn't hear Winterburn or Adams criticise the team? Link??


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  • #852
    efb
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    If ye want dogged determination with low skill level support Stoke


  • #853
    Gringo180
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    efb wrote: »
    Do you think we should have won last night??

    Its not the result its the manner of the defeat. That should never be accepted at Arsenal but it has happened far too often over the years.


  • #854
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    the untitled user wrote: »
    What alternative reality do you live in? You do realize that's league winning form?
    Since January this year:

    Koscienly clean sheets 18/36 = 50%
    Mertescaker clean sheets 15/34 = 44%
    Gabriel clean sheets 6/17 = 35%


  • #855
    efb
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    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Its not the result its the manner of the defeat. That should never be accepted at Arsenal but it has happened far too often over the years.

    We lost 5-1 away to Bayern - not the end of the world


  • #856
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    tayto lover wrote: »
    6 nil at Chelsea.
    6 - 3 at City.
    5 - 1 at Pool.
    4 - 4 at Newcastle after being 4 up.

    Often enough.
    Last night was our worst in the CL.
    8-2.


  • #857
    efb
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    8-2.

    That was like 4 years ago


  • #858
    symbolic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭symbolic


    0-6 Derby County 1899


  • #859
    efb
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    symbolic wrote: »
    0-6 Derby County 1899

    We should never Forget

    Were you at the match Tayto???

    We got rammed!!! 🐑 😜


  • #860
    [Deleted User]
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    Since Gabriel signed:
    Gabriel/Koscielny: 4/13 clean sheets, 30%
    Gabriel/Mertesacker: 1/3 cleans sheets, 33% (:pac:).


  • #861
    efb
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Since Gabriel signed:
    Gabriel/Koscielny: 4/13 clean sheets, 30%
    Gabriel/Mertesacker: 1/3 cleans sheets, 33% (:pac:).

    Goals conceded??


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  • #862
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    Gringo180 wrote: »
    I honestly cant believe some of the comments I am reading. Some nearly even justifying last nights massacre. I'm disgusted by yet another tame, gutless display by these players.
    It's basically this:


    http://img.pandawhale.com/post-33707-nothing-to-see-here-gif-please-BeZM.gif


    efb wrote: »
    If ye want dogged determination with low skill level support Stoke
    Skill and determination famously being completely mutually exclusive.:rolleyes:

    efb wrote: »
    That was like 4 years ago
    And it just keeps right on happening.


  • #863
    [Deleted User]
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    efb wrote: »
    Goals conceded??

    Jesus, I get my laptop working for one afternoon and yous have me tortured. :P


  • #864
    Mr Blobby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,752 ✭✭✭Mr Blobby


    Honestly not that fussed about the match last night. When you consider the players we were missing and Bayern home record it really shouldn't be a shock we lost by a wide margin. Before the match started i messaged a mate saying we'd lose 3-1.

    Playing counter football with Giroud up top will always be a tough task. Defensively we were poor but i feel a lot of that was down to having no outlet out wide or up front. In our last game with Bayern we had Theo's pace which tested the Bayern defence and forced them back which then allowed us time to breath.

    We were outclassed so no point trying to scapegoat individual players. The score is a bit harsh though.. We should have scored 3 goals with the chances we had.

    Overall i'm interested in competitions that we can actually win.

    ... Like the league
    ... Which we're joint top of.
    ... :)


  • #865
    Gringo180
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    efb wrote: »
    If ye want dogged determination with low skill level support Stoke

    Are you trying to say we have a high skill level? We were absolutely murdered last night, it was a stroll in the park for Bayern. That was a high skill level. We can only dream of playing like that on a consistent basis. It was men against boys last night. Luckily we are up against an average Spurs side on Sunday.


  • #866
    Irish Aris
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    jesus lads, 5 pages in 2 hours!!! I thought that something happened!!!


  • #867
    efb
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    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Are you trying to say we have a high skill level? We were absolutely murdered last night, it was a stroll in the park for Bayern. That was a high skill level. We can only dream of playing like that on a consistent basis. It was men against boys last night. Luckily we are up against an average Spurs side on Sunday.

    We have a high skills in the BPL if not the highest IMHO


  • #868
    efb
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    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Are you trying to say we have a high skill level? We were absolutely murdered last night, it was a stroll in the park for Bayern. That was a high skill level. We can only dream of playing like that on a consistent basis. It was men against boys last night. Luckily we are up against an average Spurs side on Sunday.

    They are a class above


  • #869
    efb
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    Mr Blobby wrote: »
    Honestly not that fussed about the match last night. When you consider the players we were missing and Bayern home record it really shouldn't be a shock we lost by a wide margin. Before the match started i messaged a mate saying we'd lose 3-1.

    Playing counter football with Giroud up top will always be a tough task. Defensively we were poor but i feel a lot of that was down to having no outlet out wide or up front. In our last game with Bayern we had Theo's pace which tested the Bayern defence and forced them back which then allowed us time to breath.

    We were outclassed so no point trying to scapegoat individual players. The score is a bit harsh though.. We should have scored 3 goals with the chances we had.

    Overall i'm interested in competitions that we can actually win.

    ... Like the league
    ... Which we're joint top of.
    ... :)
    Can I get an Amen!!!


  • #870
    efb
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    Irish Aris wrote: »
    jesus lads, 5 pages in 2 hours!!! I thought that something happened!!!

    We lost its bitch fight central!!!

    You SLAG!!!


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  • #871
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    Goals conceded:
    Gabriel: 19 in 17 - 1.11 per game
    Koscielny: 30 in 36 - 0.83 per game
    Mertesacker: 32 in 35 - 0.91 per game. (Was 0.79 til last night :P)


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