Web Summit quits Dublin

Giblet · 04-11-2015 02:26PM

efb wrote: »

Why can't the government just do their own one next year???

They probably will.

seachto7 · 04-11-2015 02:27PM

efb wrote:

Why can't the government just do their own one next year???

You're talking about a crowd who came up with eircode

Sofiztikated · 04-11-2015 02:28PM

efb wrote: »

Why can't the government just do their own one next year???

No reason. Just like there is no reason another company can't do something similar, and make money from it.

For The iCraic

gandalf · 04-11-2015 02:32PM

Sofiztikated wrote: »

No reason. Just like there is no reason another company can't do something similar, and make money from it.

For The iCraic

And maybe go back to the roots and have on that is specific to start ups and that gives start ups the opportunity to pitch to people and not be exploited as they obviously are at the moment. Last year when I saw what they were given as "stands" I was shocked and then I found out they only have them for one day!!!!

Tivoli1300 · 04-11-2015 02:44PM

VinLieger wrote: »

So your actually saying you want to government to interfere in the running of an entire private industries pricing on behalf of another private company? And you see nothing wrong with that?

Also you do know the web summit was buying many of those rooms and then reselling them to attendees at a markup?

Has this been verified? I have seen several references to Websummit manipulating the hotel prices but cannot understand why (assuming it is true) the mainstream media not all over it. If true, this to me is beyond shocking, hypocritical, cynical etc. and should be good reason for no-one to do business with them again, here or Portugal or wherever.

Same for the food carry on - if it is the situation that vendors and punters have been conned. Big loser is Ireland's reputation if we tolerate this kind of exploitative and simply unconscionable behavior towards our visitors and our own.

Ctrl Alt Delete · 04-11-2015 02:48PM

Allyall wrote: »

No... no no no no.. not at all..

Don't know how I phrased it, that it sounded like that. All I was/am saying is the web summit is a thousand times more valuable than many RTE employees.

That is highly debatable I mean for starters there is no remote markers that can be used to compare a govern ment funded national tv and radio broadcaster with a private 3 day conferance event.

Ctrl Alt Delete · 04-11-2015 02:52PM

gandalf wrote: »

And maybe go back to the roots and have on that is specific to start ups and that gives start ups the opportunity to pitch to people and not be exploited as they obviously are at the moment. Last year when I saw what they were given as "stands" I was shocked and then I found out they only have them for one day!!!!

They do this already just not in a loud brash way. Have a look on the Enterprise Ireland website for High Potential Startup Program

efb · 04-11-2015 02:57PM

seachto7 wrote: »

You're talking about a crowd who came up with eircode

I like Eircode, but I'm from the country

gandalf · 04-11-2015 02:57PM

Ctrl Alt Delete wrote: »

They do this already just not in a loud brash way. Have a look on the Enterprise Ireland website for High Potential Startup Program

Oh I am aware of Enterprise Ireland, they do actually do a lot of good work with Startups that have export potential.

To be clear I'm talking about someone starting up a smaller scale event from a private company. There is now an obvious gap in the market from next year onwards. Maybe even have it a few days before or after the WS in Lisbon so the yanks going to that can justify another event here. They are all going to have to get connecting flights to Lisbon from somewhere as there are very few direct connections to the US from Lisbon.

Dyr · 04-11-2015 03:04PM

brooke 2 wrote: »

There were plenty of people on Twitter supporting Daire and raging at Sharon.
Her.ie and Joe.ie definitely in the Daire
camp. His pals are also doing overtime
in some of the comments sections of the
papers. He did manage to keep his cool
while she eviscerated him, but the ripping
off of the mike and the murderous glance
he gave in Sharon's direction at the end
of the interview showed how angry he really
felt. It looked rather hilarious!

Personally, I was glad to see Sharon express
the frustration which so many of us feel towards
these entitled muppets who were apoplectic at
our government for not throwing more of the
taxpayers' hard earned money at their price
gouging enterprise!!

I'd say Sharon had a smoke and satisfied smirk on her after carpeting yer man on live televison, the kinky minx

my friend · 04-11-2015 03:14PM

gandalf wrote: »

Oh I am aware of Enterprise Ireland, they do actually do a lot of good work with Startups that have export potential.

To be clear I'm talking about someone starting up a smaller scale event from a private company. There is now an obvious gap in the market from next year onwards. Maybe even have it a few days before or after the WS in Lisbon so the yanks going to that can justify another event here. They are all going to have to get connecting flights to Lisbon from somewhere as there are very few direct connections to the US from Lisbon.

Posted on this thread that I'm thinking of holding 'The IOT World Conference' here next year, as previously posted 'web' is so passé

Mal-Adjusted · 04-11-2015 03:39PM

I just can't fathom how someone could cultivate so much negative press from themselves. All they had to do was say that Lisbon offered a better deal for them. End of. Move on. They're a private for-profit company, they are always going to act in selfish interests. That's what private companies do. But instead, and out of nowhere, they implode and descend into a series of highly public spats, resulting in yer man making an idiot out of himself on the news yesterday.

Larbre34 · 04-11-2015 03:47PM

You'd wonder will it even survive until Lisbon, there appears to be some significant problems at senior level with Web Summit Ltd. The phrase take a look in the mirror comes to mind.

You'd know the gloves are off when junior ministers are saying "if you dont like the colour of our money, give it ****ing back."

efb · 04-11-2015 04:00PM

Websummit quiz

dloob · 04-11-2015 04:05PM

After all the whining about rip offs from them #FoodGate is hilarious.
Probably better marketing for Aldi than any of the people with food stands.

https://twitter.com/Aldi_Ireland/status/661889367745646592

namloc1980 · 04-11-2015 04:07PM

dloob wrote: »

After all the whining about rip offs from them #FoodGate is hilarious.
Probably better marketing for Aldi than any of the people with food stands.

https://twitter.com/Aldi_Ireland/status/661889367745646592

You know you fcuked up when you're being trolled by Aldi!

RedemptionZ · 04-11-2015 04:10PM

Seems most of the defenders of Cosgrove and Hickey are clueless about private enterprises. Completely the responsibility of the event organisers to go to the hotels and negotiate something.

sonny.knowles · 04-11-2015 04:12PM

dloob wrote: »

After all the whining about rip offs from them #FoodGate is hilarious.
Probably better marketing for Aldi than any of the people with food stands.

https://twitter.com/Aldi_Ireland/status/661889367745646592

Throw in a barbeque and the other ingredients required for a burger and I'd probably pay a tenner.

sid waddell · 04-11-2015 04:14PM

brooke 2 wrote: »

There were plenty of people on Twitter supporting Daire and raging at Sharon.
Her.ie and Joe.ie definitely in the Daire
camp.

If those two pieces of e-excrement and the morons who read them are sticking up for Daire, that's a pretty good indicator that it was a very professional interview from Sharon Ni Bheolain.

AnonoBoy · 04-11-2015 04:16PM

Got a taxi home last night - the driver put it more eloquently than I ever could -

"I'm f*cking sick to death hearing about this bleedin' summit d'ya know what I mean?"

You and me both Mr. Taxi Driver Man, you and me both.

Dyr · 04-11-2015 04:21PM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Got a taxi home last night - the driver put it more eloquently than I ever could -

"I'm f*cking sick to death hearing about this bleedin' summit d'ya know what I mean?"

You and me both Mr. Taxi Driver Man, you and me both.

One more day and the nightmare will be over.

PhoenixParker · 04-11-2015 04:21PM

Bambi wrote: »

One more day and the nightmare will be over.

FOREVER

osarusan · 04-11-2015 04:23PM

Has there been any more said about the 20quid 'meals'.

I know the food providers agreed on 8quid, but were they told that E8 what they would get, or that E8 is what the customers would be paying.

If it's the latter, it looks like one final scam before heading for Lisbon and not coming back. Can't imagine there would be too many companies looking to provide the food in the future.

jam_mac_jam · 04-11-2015 04:28PM

osarusan wrote: »

Has there been any more said about the 20quid 'meals'.

I know the food providers agreed on 8quid, but were they told that E8 what they would get, or that E8 is what the customers would be paying.

If it's the latter, it looks like one final scam before heading for Lisbon and not coming back. Can't imagine there would be too many companies looking to provide the food in the future.

The pictures are fairly bad.. Not really worth a fiver never mind twenty.

gandalf · 04-11-2015 04:29PM

osarusan wrote: »

Has there been any more said about the 20quid 'meals'.

I know the food providers agreed on 8quid, but were they told that E8 what they would get, or that E8 is what the customers would be paying.

If it's the latter, it looks like one final scam before heading for Lisbon and not coming back. Can't imagine there would be too many companies looking to provide the food in the future.

One of the posters yesterday who said they were working on one of the food stands said that the fact that the WS were charging for the meals was news to them and they only found out yesterday morning themselves like the attendees. From my understanding they received €8 per meal from the Websummit so PC and friends were marking up the costs by 250% which is astonishing given their rants against the hotels price hikes!

Seth Brundle · 04-11-2015 04:33PM

PC responds to government feedback...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tsl7-TJtPew

smash · 04-11-2015 05:02PM

Great article here: http://www.newstalk.com/Inside-WebSummit-day-2

Some of the points raised..

Web Summit is a commercial entity and they are fully entitled to move their conference locations to wherever they wish. It's sad to lose it from Dublin, but the whole bitchy exchange that followed the announcement of their re-location to Lisbon has been laughable.

The publication of emails between the Web Summit and the Irish government was silliness. It paints a very poor picture of the people behind the whole operation.

I remember sitting in front of the main stage at Web Summit last year, with no Wifi and watching Paddy Cosgrave take to the stage and give a sardonic slow clap to the RDS for their Internet services (or lack thereof). In all my time as a journalist, I have never seen anything like it. He was clearly angry, which is understandable. I don't, for one second, question how hard the Web Summit team works. But I do think it was embarrassing to see a CEO take a public shot at their host location in that vain, with the world's media sitting there watching.

Web Summit has control of the WiFi services this year and yet there are still issues. Does any of the team want to take to the stage and point that out? Didn't think so.

Daith · 04-11-2015 05:29PM

smash wrote: »

Great article here: http://www.newstalk.com/Inside-WebSummit-day-2

Some of the points raised..

Though this

Charging €20 for a burger and a bottle of water is galling, but that's how supply and demand works.

It's also why hotels get more expensive too if there's an event on.

For Forks Sake · 04-11-2015 05:30PM

Bambi wrote: »

One more day and the nightmare will be over.

Be like the banishment of witches from medieval villages.

Tarzana2 · 04-11-2015 06:04PM

my friend wrote: »

If Steve Jobs were alive I reckon he'd kick Paddy Cosgrave in the nutsack for stealing his 'conference' styling

It's a bit cringe worthy, isn't it? I mean, it was even a cringe worthy when Steve Jobs did it, never mind some pube-haired, eejity conference organiser.

Web Summit quits Dublin

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