Work sexism

Specialun · 03-11-2015 10:47PM #1

I work in a multinational..standard joint

I applied for aTeam management role internally..not on my team but a new team

Today i got a mail from a lad in HR to go for a cuppa to discuss my application..i know him a while so i knew he would be honest

He told me that i shouldnt bother pushing my application as the powers that be have said that the role must be filled by a woman..at the moment they only have one external female applicant who nobody knows of

Iget that they want to increase the amount of women in tech companies to make them less of acockfest but isnt this just reverse discrimination/sexism

Stheno · 03-11-2015 10:49PM

How do you know that he wasn't making something up as he knows you well enough to make it easier to tell you you weren't getting the job and blame it on something other than a fault you have/skill you are lacking?

Any proper HR professional would quit rather than make a statement like you said he'd made, it's discrimination and actionable.

Barry Badrinath · 03-11-2015 10:49PM

Just be more gender fluid, sorted.

The Backwards Man · 03-11-2015 10:49PM

Specialun wrote: »

I applied for aTeam management role internally..

If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them...

SeanW · 03-11-2015 10:49PM

Ah, but it's the right kind of sexism.

OneOfThem · 03-11-2015 10:51PM

Yeah my first thought was he's making sh1t up.

Tazium · 03-11-2015 10:52PM

Reads as if you are being discriminated on the basis of gender which is a no-no for any HR department. Ask for it in writing.

Specialun · 03-11-2015 10:53PM

Stheno wrote: »

How do you know that he wasn't making something up as he knows you well enough to make it easier to tell you you weren't getting the job and blame it on something other than a fault you have/skill you are lacking?

Any proper HR professional would quit rather than make a statement like you said he'd made, it's discrimination and actionable.

Ive known the guy over 3 years both in and out of work. Zero chance he was telling porkies. It was off the record, he knew well i would do nothing about it

KungPao · 03-11-2015 10:53PM

Everyone knows you can't be sexist against men or racist against white people.

ygolometsipe · 03-11-2015 10:54PM

Back when I used to work in Porn it was the most sexist place
you could imagine. many time's I was told its a woman's role.

Boom_Bap · 03-11-2015 10:54PM

You should take it up with HR that HR are leaking potentially un HR-y sensitive information over a cuppa in the canteen rather in the HR office within proper HR guidelines in and proper HR setting. HR.

Stheno · 03-11-2015 10:55PM

Specialun wrote: »

Ive known the guy over 3 years both in and out of work. Zero chance he was telling porkies. It was off the record, he knew well i would do nothing about it

Well if you choose to do nothing about it, that sort of behaviour will persist, and nothing will change tbh.

Your choice.

KungPao · 03-11-2015 10:57PM

Boom_Bap wrote: »

You should take it up with HR that HR are leaking potentially un HR-y sensitive information over a cuppa in the canteen rather in the HR office within proper HR guidelines in and proper HR setting. HR.

HR?

Pat Mustard · 03-11-2015 10:57PM

Stheno wrote: »

How do you know that he wasn't making something up as he knows you well enough to make it easier to tell you you weren't getting the job and blame it on something other than a fault you have/skill you are lacking?

I wouldn't agree that it would make it easier to tell somebody that they are being discriminated against rather than telling them that somebody else was more qualified or more experienced for the position.

Stheno · 03-11-2015 10:58PM

Pat Mustard wrote: »

I wouldn't agree that it would make it easier to tell somebody that they are being discriminated against rather than telling them that somebody else was more qualified or more experienced for the position.

It sounds like a conversation that was had "off the record, because we're mates" tbh.

cantdecide · 03-11-2015 10:58PM

Specialun wrote: »

It was off the record, he knew well i would do nothing about it

Except tell the whole internet?

Specialun · 03-11-2015 11:02PM

cantdecide wrote: »

Except tell the whole internet?

Is everybody on the internet looking in..fooking ell boards popularity is gone sky high

One eyed Jack · 03-11-2015 11:05PM

OneOfThem wrote: »

Yeah my first thought was he's making sh1t up.

The "HR guy", or the OP? :pac:

I know who my money's on...

wp_rathead · 03-11-2015 11:09PM

How do you pronounce HR? That's right: Her
ILLUNAMTI CONFIRMED!!!

SeanW · 03-11-2015 11:10PM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

The "HR guy", or the OP? :pac:

I know who my money's on...

I doubt you'd have the same tune if it were in reverse...

Junkyard Tom · 03-11-2015 11:11PM

Man up and become a woman.

Fr_Dougal · 03-11-2015 11:12PM

Stheno wrote: »

How do you know that he wasn't making something up as he knows you well enough to make it easier to tell you you weren't getting the job and blame it on something other than a fault you have/skill you are lacking?

Any proper HR professional would quit rather than make a statement like you said he'd made, it's discrimination and actionable.

We were hiring some time ago and I was part of the interview panel, preference was given to female candidates, we had a 70:30 mate to female ratio.

JupiterKid · 03-11-2015 11:14PM

What with places to rent and jobs - it seems that young white males are getting short shrift these days.

Well?

Stheno · 03-11-2015 11:17PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

We were hiring some time ago and I was part of the interview panel, preference was given to female candidates, we had a 70:30 mate to female ratio.

Why did you give preference to female candidates?

And was the person who was ultimately hired, the most qualified, experienced fit for the role?

Dave0301 · 03-11-2015 11:17PM

Ah good old reverse discrimination.

Acceptable because it has the word reverse before discrimination.

One eyed Jack · 03-11-2015 11:18PM

SeanW wrote: »

I doubt you'd have the same tune if it were in reverse...

After reading the thread about the anonymous couple kicked out of the anonymous restaurant for holding hands, I've had to adjust my bullahìt detector down a few notches to account for utter hearsay from anonymous sources about anonymous HR guys in anonymous multinationals making dubious, actionable statements.

TL;DR: Damn right I would!

biko · 03-11-2015 11:22PM

Ya know, sometimes the best man for the job is a woman.

Fr_Dougal · 03-11-2015 11:24PM

Stheno wrote: »

Why did you give preference to female candidates?

And was the person who was ultimately hired, the most qualified, experienced fit for the role?

I didn't give preference to the female candidates. When I made my recommendation it was pointed out to me that the particular team was mostly males. You'll never see it written down anywhere, but it is something that senior management have to be mindful of and it is a consideration.

Stheno · 03-11-2015 11:25PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

I didn't give preference to the female candidates. When I made my recommendation it was pointed out to me that the particular team was mostly males. You'll never see it written down anywhere, but it is something that senior management have to be mindful of and it is a consideration.

Never been a consideration in organisations I've worked in at a fairly senior level.

For external candidates experience will trump gender almost all of the time tbh.

03-11-2015 11:32PM

KungPao wrote: »

Everyone knows you can't be sexist against men or racist against white people.

Seriously, I get sick of this crap.

I didn't get the memo. I never heard of everyone knowing this, or everyone agreeing this. Because everyone doesn't.

The odd nutter, yes. EVERYONE...no.

But lets pretend anyway, right?

Tails up chaps!

Annasopra · 03-11-2015 11:32PM

Specialun wrote: »

Ive known the guy over 3 years both in and out of work. Zero chance he was telling porkies. It was off the record, he knew well i would do nothing about it

Why did he tell you?

Work sexism

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