Season 6 | Episode 4 | Here's Not Here [AMC] [SPOILERS]

NUTZZ · 30-10-2015 09:45PM #1

The Walking Dead - Season 6

Episode 4 - "Here's Not Here"

Airdate - November 1st on AMC at 9/8c | November 2nd on FOX UK at 9pm

A new face appears; trust issues form.

This episode introduces a new face to the show. With all that's gone on in the apocalypse, can people be trusted? Better yet, can they change?

This is an extended 90 minute episode (including commercial breaks)

Promo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBWiBFjMw40

Sneak Peek 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlUSfMlmFAU

Sneak Peek 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-F0lFLSpzo

Kirby · 02-11-2015 07:35AM

8

That was very good. I enjoyed that.

I do wonder if he was going to go back in and finish him off at the end. He heard the shout from the gate and went running but I really think he was about to do it. Notice the way he did lock the gate. He didnt leave it open.

clever user name · 02-11-2015 09:29AM

6

It wasn't too bad, perhaps a bit long. I liked the psychiatrist guy, shame he died.

Username exists · 02-11-2015 09:52AM

Another week to wait to learn the fate of Glenn and were those his giblets the gang were milling into.

5starpool · 02-11-2015 12:52PM

6

I was hoping it wasn't going to be entirely based on the Morgan flashback, but it was still decent enough. You'd assume that given how much time was dedicated to the backstory that he won't be dying anytime soon then.

02-11-2015 01:24PM

Great episode. Sure it's away from the main story, but I would happily watch Lennie James doing absolutely everything. He's an absolutely fantastic actor.

So was the guy Morgan captured Crighton Dallas Wilton? I thought Eastman had killed him.

clever user name · 02-11-2015 02:06PM

6

Deleted User wrote: »

Great episode. Sure it's away from the main story, but I would happily watch Lennie James doing absolutely everything. He's an absolutely fantastic actor.

So was the guy Morgan captured Crighton Dallas Wilton? I thought Eastman had killed him.

No I don't think so. Personally I think it had more to do with Morgans new 'philosophy' about all life being precious. He has been refusing to kill anyone, but it looks like he's starting to realize that in some cases this just won't work. Inner dilemma sort of thing.

02-11-2015 03:10PM

Oh, just the way that he went on to mention Eastman's kids made me wonder if there was some connection there, but likely was just repeating some of the story.

5starpool · 02-11-2015 03:22PM

6

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh, just the way that he went on to mention Eastman's kids made me wonder if there was some connection there, but likely was just repeating some of the story.

Ya, the same thing briefly occurred to me, but I'm pretty sure they were just creating parallels between 2 people who have no hope of actual redemption.

Hazys · 02-11-2015 04:20PM

expectationlost wrote: »

Al Bundy!, Ed O'Neill he's really big into martial arts in real life, which I think you could see, although he has a black belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu not Akido

Kirkman said all the way back in 2012 he'd love to give him a part http://moviepilot.com/posts/752534?lt_source=external,manual

That wasn't Al Bundy lol

expectationlost · 02-11-2015 04:26PM

Hazys wrote: »

That wasn't Al Bundy lol

whoops http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/John_Carroll_Lynch I still have feeling the part was written for Ed O'Neill and then for reason he didn't do it.

Beastermc · 02-11-2015 04:27PM

Hazys wrote:

That wasn't Al Bundy lol

Yeah was just gonna say that..John Carroll lunch is your mans name..though I was gone mad there for a minute!

Beastermc · 02-11-2015 04:52PM

5starpool wrote:

Ya, the same thing briefly occurred to me, but I'm pretty sure they were just creating parallels between 2 people who have no hope of actual redemption.

Yeah I thought the same, that the wolf is truly evil person just like Crichton Dallas. But your man Eastwood regretted killing Crichton and still even buried him afterwords, so I doubt Morgan would actually kill the wolf himself, maybe try and keep it the fact that the wolf is locked up a secret, until someone like Carole finds out and kills the wolf without hesitation. But Morgan will probably still bury the wolf, like your man did.

Hyzepher · 02-11-2015 05:32PM

And yet again Morgan's hesitation got someone else killed.

5starpool · 02-11-2015 05:41PM

6

Hyzepher wrote: »

And yet again Morgan's hesitation got someone else killed.

And again in an unbelievable way. No way would he have saved Morgan like that. Push away the walker and everyone lives. Better still, poke him in the head.

Lone Stone · 02-11-2015 06:05PM

2

Meh fairly crap episode i thought. just nothing interesting about it. Was there any reason that guy had to get bitten in such a retarded way, that whole thing could have happened with out him being bit and it would have been a nice change from the norm. but ow well.

expectationlost · 02-11-2015 07:58PM

hey let me teach you about not killing anyone after not revealing that I'll killed the guy i rally wanted to

Sudden Valley · 02-11-2015 08:03PM

5

The training scene at the river was like something out of an eighties movie. Was really bored by the majority of this episode. Morgan just seems to be going to make a few bad decisions and put everyone in danger.

Snake Plisken · 02-11-2015 09:52PM

8

Great episode I actually got more emotional watching this episode then last weeks episode probably down to the great performance from John Carroll Lynch as Eastman. Morgan told the Wolf his story about Eastman but the scumbag sides with the guy who liked Eastman's family. Anyway I gave that episode a 9 and it deserved the longer runtime to flesh out Morgan's backstory.

obriendj · 02-11-2015 10:09PM

5

Gave it a six
Good performance by Eastman, shame he is not sticking around. (pun intended) and it was nice to see Morgans transition from being crazy in that town to the over sympathetic do-good-er but it was a filler episode and extended one.
Like others i was bored and i know there will be some people who will say "if you didn't like that episode you don't like the walking dead." and so be it.
I don't like leaving an episode on a cliff hanger then we are left hanging the next week. They started this in Season 3 when the Governor was introduced and seem to have kept it going.

Nervous Wreck · 02-11-2015 10:20PM

I think many of you are nuts. Fantastic episode imo. This actually makes me want to re-read the early days of the comics.

I really enjoyed how they just took the character and brought us through his journey without having to rely on the main story/characters. They took an interesting character and developed him further. Eastman was fantastic and his demise, though inevitable, was a sad shame. This contextualises everything we've seen of Morgan since he resurfaced way back when.

This is also an important episode because, in many ways, it's about Rick. Always the hero of the story, Rick has gone down a dark path and many of the characters believe e can't come back from there. This episode places Morgan where Rick was, morally, at the beginning of season 2, while showing how he got there from where Rick is headed to now. It's not just about Morgan's redemption; it's about Rick's opportunity to seize the same redemption for himself.

John_D80 · 02-11-2015 11:21PM

1

First bump in the road for an otherwise very good season so far. That episode was beyond dull. Painful to watch in places.

Gunslinger92 · 02-11-2015 11:23PM

Yeah I thought that was excellent!

duridian · 02-11-2015 11:29PM

8

Beastermc wrote: »

Hazys wrote:

That wasn't Al Bundy lol

Yeah was just gonna say that..John Carroll
lunch
is your mans name..though I was gone mad there for a minute!

Fixed it for you

Flippyfloppy · 02-11-2015 11:30PM

1

I thought it was a good episode but would have been better placed as episode no.5. The cliffhanger of episode three is just too immense to have to sit through '90' minutes of Morgan's development. I don't care about his development, not that I don't love the character, but I was at peace that he's at peace anyway. I didn't even really care about him and the wolves, until the final scene there.

Liam McPoyle · 02-11-2015 11:33PM

John_D80 wrote: »

First bump in the road for an otherwise very good season so far. That episode was beyond dull. Painful to watch in places.

I dont understand why people question things like this. All shows have budgets, they cannot all go hell for leather in every episode, much like the episode in Breaking Bad with the fly, a "down" episode is sometimes needed to keep costs down and this one was excellent (aside from Eastman's death).

The first three episodes in this season were breathless in their pace so I thought this episode was fantastic with brilliantly believable acting, particularly from John Carroll Lynch as Eastman.

Thats 4 superb episodes thus far and its fast becoming my favourite season to date.

Monife · 02-11-2015 11:41PM

2

Business Cat wrote: »

I dont understand why people question things like this. All shows have budgets, they cannot all go hell for leather in every episode, much like the episode in Breaking Bad with the fly, a "down" episode is sometimes needed to keep costs down and this one was excellent (aside from Eastman's death).

The first three episodes in this season were breathless in their pace so I thought this episode was fantastic with brilliantly believable acting, particularly from John Carroll Lynch as Eastman.

Thats 4 superb episodes thus far and its fast becoming my favourite season to date.

They don't need to have one seriously boring episode just to save money. Why not take a little action out of one of the fast paced ones? Anyway, I doubt AMC is worried about budget, I'd say TWD is one of their highest grossing series.

I really like Morgan but I was seriously disappointed the whole episode was about him. It's awful having to wait two weeks to find out Glenn's fate and see the aftermath of last week.

Found myself really hoping after each break that it would go back to Alexandria but it didn't

Worst episode in a long time!

RoryMac · 02-11-2015 11:47PM

4

Didn't like that episode at all, not a fan of Morgan and found the whole thing cheesy with the Karate Kid style training.

I'd hoped for more from Morgan's return, that he'd be a counter balance to Rick's lack of humanity but he's just a liability. He's out of touch with the reality of the world this is costing people their lives.

This episode has me worried he's here for the long run but hopefully he'll get munched before the season finishes

John_D80 · 02-11-2015 11:47PM

1

Business Cat wrote: »

I dont understand why people question things like this. All shows have budgets, they cannot all go hell for leather in every episode, much like the episode in Breaking Bad with the fly, a "down" episode is sometimes needed to keep costs down and this one was excellent (aside from Eastman's death).

The first three episodes in this season were breathless in their pace so I thought this episode was fantastic with brilliantly believable acting, particularly from John Carroll Lynch as Eastman.

Thats 4 superb episodes thus far and its fast becoming my favourite season to date.

Eh, I'm not questioning anything. Offering my opinion. Episode was dull as dishwater. Wouldnt have been out of place in season 2.

How do you know that it is anything to do with budget constraints or trying to keep costs down? Or is this just a theory of yours? Would love to see where you got that info if it is indeed based in fact.

DoozerT6 · 02-11-2015 11:53PM

RoryMac wrote: »

Didn't like that episode at all, not a fan of Morgan and found the whole thing cheesy with the Karate Kid style training.

I'd hoped for more from Morgan's return, that he'd be a counter balance to Rick's lack of humanity but he's just a liability. He's out of touch with the reality of the world this is costing people their lives.

This episode has me worried he's here for the long run but hopefully he'll get munched before the season finishes

I wouldn't necessarily say he's out of touch, he's seen plenty 'out there', but maybe he's just desperately trying to retain the humanity that he very nearly lost. Time will tell whether he succeeds.

The Wolf in the basement

will probably be either his downfall or his salvation.

I enjoyed it overall. I'm glad to see other people there who haven't taken the psycho route, like Eastman (letting

that guy starve to death

notwithstanding) and that couple in the woods that Morgan saved from the walker. Sometimes it is nice to step away from the utter madness that is the rest of the series, and realise that other stuff happens too.

RoryMac · 03-11-2015 12:09AM

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DoozerT6 wrote: »

I wouldn't necessarily say he's out of touch, he's seen plenty 'out there', but maybe he's just desperately trying to retain the humanity that he very nearly lost. Time will tell whether he succeeds.
The Wolf in the basement
will probably be either his downfall or his salvation.

I enjoyed it overall. I'm glad to see other people there who haven't taken the psycho route, like Eastman (letting
that guy starve to death
notwithstanding) and that couple in the woods that Morgan saved from the walker. Sometimes it is nice to step away from the utter madness that is the rest of the series, and realise that other stuff happens too.

Yeah I suppose my issue is more with how the writers so far have portrayed that most of the time when Morgan has shown his human side it has come back and bitten him & the group.

I'm not sure why it needed to be Morgan's fault for Eastman to get bitten & the Wolves he let go earlier in the season.

It doesn't give viewers(me anyway) a solid alternative to Rick's take no prisoners style.

Season 6 | Episode 4 | Here's Not Here [AMC] [SPOILERS]

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