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Some old footage of Knock Airport...

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  • #2
    fr336
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    Jesus that 737 was fast taking off


  • #3
    EchoIndia
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    The second arrival was nicer!


  • #4
    outsidein98
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    Rather quaint, all those those priests running around and pilgrimages to Rome. Different times. Glad to see the back of them.

    Nice comment from one man about the people of the west doing it for themselves rather than depending on those people in Dublin. Pity it's not true. To this day it continues to be propped up with taxpayers money supplied by those people in Dublin.

    I only used it once as a passenger. Not much to it. But was not impressed when I came back to find someone had tried to break into our car in the car park. The only other time was when when I stopped over there during my CPL flight test. That's a story in itself!


  • #5
    yew_tree
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    Great to see that Footage. Fr.Horan was some man for one man. The airport is a vital piece of infrastructure of the north West region.


  • #6
    josip
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    We paid our 2 quid to the Monsignor and drove down the runway in 84/85? in our Fiat Uno before any 737 ever set wheel on the tarmac.


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  • #7
    Strumms
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    josip wrote: »
    We paid our 2 quid to the Monsignor and drove down the runway in 84/85? in our Fiat Uno before any 737 ever set wheel on the tarmac.

    We did the same in the Corolla.. although i dont think we paid.. there just wasn't anyone around :)


  • #8
    ChippingSodbury
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    I used the airport for the first time last weekend. It's a bit expensive to say the least: €10 per adult to leave and €27 for parking from Friday morning to Sunday morning.


  • #9
    Locker10a
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    ChippingSodbury wrote: »
    I used the airport for the first time last weekend. It's a bit expensive to say the least: €10 per adult to leave and €27 for parking from Friday morning to Sunday morning.

    Convenience costs ! And for people from the area the cost of a departure contribution and a few quid for parking would probably work out LESS than a trip to Dublin, night in a hotel there not to mention a day lost travelling etc


  • #10
    Jayop
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    outsidein98 wrote: »
    Rather quaint, all those those priests running around and pilgrimages to Rome. Different times. Glad to see the back of them.

    Nice comment from one man about the people of the west doing it for themselves rather than depending on those people in Dublin. Pity it's not true. To this day it continues to be propped up with taxpayers money supplied by those people in Dublin.

    I only used it once as a passenger. Not much to it. But was not impressed when I came back to find someone had tried to break into our car in the car park. The only other time was when when I stopped over there during my CPL flight test. That's a story in itself!

    You know people in the West pay taxes too? I'd say our taxes paid / services in return ratio is much much worse than for those in the big smoke.


  • #11
    L1011
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    Jayop wrote: »
    You know people in the West pay taxes too? I'd say our taxes paid / services in return ratio is much much worse than for those in the big smoke.

    It is - you pay far less than you receive.

    The GDA and Cork fund the rest of the country.


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  • #12
    notharrypotter
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    L1011 wrote: »
    It is - you pay far less than you receive.

    The GDA and Cork fund the rest of the country.

    Source?


  • #13
    [Deleted User]
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    L1011 wrote: »
    It is - you pay far less than you receive.

    The GDA and Cork fund the rest of the country.

    You could follow that up by saying Berlin London and Paris fund Dublin. They did after-all help bailout the Dublin based banks that bankrupted the whole country(which we all now pay extra tax for) and caused hundreds of thousands of people to immigrate.

    Or you could be more sensible and realise that one needs the other. The electricity, gas, water and food all come from the countryside and the excess taxes from Dublin due to the city having these services provided, helps to pay for the conduits for those services which in-turn benefits all.


  • #14
    L1011
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    notharrypotter wrote: »
    Source?

    Common sense and extremely basic maths

    Take the tax take by county and start there.

    http://www.revenue.ie/en/about/statistics/

    The "sure, Dublin gets everything, give us some" attitude of many of our public officials is disgusting when Dublin (and Cork) pay for the entire damn country.

    There is only so much that can be written down to regional development, and the regions are already getting it. If the GDA doesn't get vast infrastructural investment and soon the entire country is going to choke. Capex for private airports is not justifiable now or ever.


  • #15
    Jayop
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    I pay as much tax as anyone in Dublin so I'm entitled to some services in return. We have been shafted for years in health, transport, sport and leisure services.


  • #16
    Jayop
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    L1011 wrote: »
    You get more services than your tax pays for, by far.

    No. I pay exactly the same percentage of tax as anyone in Dublin and I don't receive 10% of the services they get per euro they contribute.


  • #17
    L1011
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    Jayop wrote: »
    No. I pay exactly the same percentage of tax as anyone in Dublin and I don't receive 10% of the services they get per euro they contribute.

    That's not how this works. Economics 101

    Rural and regional areas cost far more to provide services to for a vast number of reasons. Your tax payments do not even begin to cover what you are provided with. The Dublin people pay far more than the cost of the services they are provided with.

    If you can't understand that you're not ever going to understand it how much more its explained.


  • #18
    Grandeeod
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    L1011 wrote: »
    That's not how this works. Economics 101

    Rural and regional areas cost far more to provide services to for a vast number of reasons. Your tax payments do not even begin to cover what you are provided with. The Dublin people pay far more than the cost of the services they are provided with.

    If you can't understand that you're not ever going to understand it how much more its explained.

    I've been embroiled in this codswallop for years. You make sense but are wasting your time trying to explain it.


  • #19
    outsidein98
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    Get over yourselves. I live in Galway city and the reality is that the urban areas Dublin, Cork, Limerick and Galway City subsidise the rest of the country. Dublin in particular which gets gets far less benefit from the taxes it pays than it receives given the number of TDs from outside the pale in government. Lose the chip on your shoulder.


  • #20
    imurdaddy
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    outsidein98 wrote: »
    Get over yourselves. I live in Galway city and the reality is that the urban areas Dublin, Cork, Limerick and Galway City subsidise the rest of the country. Dublin in particular which gets gets far less benefit from the taxes it pays than it receives given the number of TDs from outside the pale in government. Lose the chip on your shoulder.

    If you even look at SNN there's a huge amount of money generated in the surrounding industrial area which includes Ennis & limerick which at least adds huge money to the economy and adds to the coffers to pay for local services, now this aul crock of knock paying its way is pure bs! It has no population base or commercial or industrial activity on the level of any other region. The sad fact is the west is a black hole for public funds as much as they may be needed which no one would doubt.

    Knock is a nice facility for the people of the northwest who are perfectly entitled to it but to suggest it and the rest of the northwest adds as much to the public coffers is stupid,

    Cue shannon got 5billion, dublin gets everything blabla,


  • #21
    Jayop
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    L1011 wrote: »
    That's not how this works. Economics 101

    Rural and regional areas cost far more to provide services to for a vast number of reasons. Your tax payments do not even begin to cover what you are provided with. The Dublin people pay far more than the cost of the services they are provided with.

    If you can't understand that you're not ever going to understand it how much more its explained.

    Me personally, I. I get far less for my tax than a person from Dublin.

    Can you not understand that?


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  • #22
    L1011
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    Jayop wrote: »
    Me personally, I. I get far less for my tax than a person from Dublin.

    Can you not understand that?

    Your services cost vastly more to provide, and you refuse to accept that.


  • #23
    yew_tree
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    The "we pay more tax for you" debate, Urban v Rural....can anyone discuss Knock Airport without having this thrown out? Fact is you pay tax on what you earn. Some might argue the middle class hard working people are propping up the lay abouts who have never worked a day in their life and don't intend to.


  • #24
    Jayop
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    L1011 wrote: »
    Your services cost vastly more to provide, and you refuse to accept that.

    Where did I refuse that?


  • #25
    notharrypotter
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    Jayop wrote: »
    Where did I refuse that?
    Post 22 above
    Me personally, I. I get far less for my tax than a person from Dublin.

    Can you not understand that?


  • #26
    Jayop
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    notharrypotter wrote: »
    Post 22 above

    That's not in anyway agreeing or disagreeing that the services cost more to provide per person in the country.


  • #27
    L1011
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    Jayop wrote: »
    That's not in anyway agreeing or disagreeing that the services cost more to provide per person in the country.

    So you now realise you get more than you pay for?


  • #28
    Jayop
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    L1011 wrote: »
    So you now realise you get more than you pay for?

    Logic.....

    If I pay 10k per year tax and someone in Dublin pays the same, who gets more for their money?


  • #29
    L1011
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    Jayop wrote: »
    Logic.....

    If I pay 10k per year tax and someone in Dublin pays the same, who gets more for their money?

    It doesn't work like that

    If you are obtaining 14k cost of services and paying 10k for them, you are not covering the costs of your services

    If you are obtaining 5k cost of services and paying 10k for them, you are more than covering the costs of your services and subsidising others

    In rural areas, the first scenario applies.

    What your 14k gets you is irrelevant - the tax money has been spent and then some to provide them in the first place.

    If you don't understand this now, you're never going to understand it; and continue crying for more from the teat.


  • #30
    Jayop
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    L1011 wrote: »
    It doesn't work like that

    If you are obtaining 14k cost of services and paying 10k for them, you are not covering the costs of your services

    If you are obtaining 5k cost of services and paying 10k for them, you are more than covering the costs of your services and subsidising others

    In rural areas, the first scenario applies.

    What your 14k gets you is irrelevant - the tax money has been spent and then some to provide them in the first place.

    If you don't understand this now, you're never going to understand it; and continue crying for more from the teat.

    I'm not arguing against the point you're making. I'm simply saying that I get less services (regardless of how much they cost per person) per euro of my tax than someone in Dublin.

    There's absolutely no need for the tone of your replies either. A bit of civility could go a long way with you.


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  • #31
    lawred2
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    Jayop wrote: »
    I'm not arguing against the point you're making. I'm simply saying that I get less services (regardless of how much they cost per person) per euro of my tax than someone in Dublin.

    There's absolutely no need for the tone of your replies either. A bit of civility could go a long way with you.

    hey you know, Dublin is waiting here for you with open arms... come join us and pay your taxes with us over here; then sit back and bask in the glow of all these services that we get.


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