Rangers FC On Field Gossip & Rumour Thread 2017 Mod Note in OP(Updated 14/08)

weldoninhio · 29-10-2015 09:20AM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Is it that time again ? I mean, the bankruptcy proclaimed for October seems to have passed without much noise, do we have to wait until November now ?

There was no bankruptcy proclaimed for October. It was stated that you'd run out of money in October. I've read this morning that Level 5 have moved legally to get payment owed.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 29-10-2015 09:37AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

There was no bankruptcy proclaimed for October. It was stated that you'd run out of money in October. I've read this morning that Level 5 have moved legally to get payment owed.

Who and where did you read this

weldoninhio · 29-10-2015 10:09AM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Who and where did you read this

Seen an article on Twitter I think it was. Not 100% sure, I go through all the sites first thing on the bus to work.

TheCitizen · 29-10-2015 11:18AM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

He said if it was need we don't need it in the championship just how many times do we have to do this dance.
We all know what he was called we also know he wax cleared to carry on with his business dealing over there by another judge. Oh and just because mo EU is not getting spent in players even you who obviously reads up on us must see an infrastructure is getting rebuilt but hey ho Bobby

Why didn't he put it in to save the original club in the first place, it would've only cost a pound I believe? Any further development on the yarn he was spinning about paying of the debtors of the old club to resurrect the corpse and reinstall the dignity? Staunch.

This character is playing ye like a fiddle.

bobbysands81 · 29-10-2015 01:03PM

So just to be clear here are The Rangers fans that post here saying that they have full faith in Dave King and the way he is currently running the club?

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 29-10-2015 01:08PM

bobbysands81 wrote: »

So just to be clear here are The Rangers fans that post here saying that they have full faith in Dave King and the way he is currently running the club?

Where have any of us said full faith. Personally I will never have full faith in anyone running our club. But I have no reason to go against King at this time. As far as I can see he and the others are slowly getting the club back on track. I would rather it went slowly and the proper tools were put in place which seems to be happening

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 29-10-2015 01:13PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Seen an article on Twitter I think it was. Not 100% sure, I go through all the sites first thing on the bus to work.

Ah the well known font if all knowledge lol

Coillte_Bhoy · 29-10-2015 01:35PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Ah the well known font if all knowledge lol

Strange post since we dont know the source

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 29-10-2015 01:38PM

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Strange post since we dont know the source

Not so strange really Twitter is full of nonsense and until I see the source and confirm it. Then really do I have to explain

bobbysands81 · 29-10-2015 02:06PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Where have any of us said full faith. Personally I will never have full faith in anyone running our club. But I have no reason to go against King at this time. As far as I can see he and the others are slowly getting the club back on track. I would rather it went slowly and the proper tools were put in place which seems to be happening

Are alarm bells even ringing in your head that maybe all isn't as it seems?

The warning signs are there, outgoings are way higher than incomings, delisted from a stock exchange, incomplete accounts, difficulty with NOMADs, audited accounts etc... whilst being run by a convicted fraudster and crook.

This is actually GUBU stuff... so any alarm bells ringing?

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 29-10-2015 02:19PM

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Are alarm bells even ringing in your head that maybe all isn't as it seems?

The warning signs are there, outgoings are way higher than incomings, delisted from a stock exchange, incomplete accounts, difficulty with NOMADs, audited accounts etc... whilst being run by a convicted fraudster and crook.

This is actually GUBU stuff... so any alarm bells ringing?

No as simply put all these problems arose from the former boards. You kep going over the same things Bobby why. Are you upset we are not out of money by the time Phil the bigot spoke from his oracle (arse).
Not up on the latest initial things GUBU

TheCitizen · 29-10-2015 02:37PM

Soups123 wrote: »

Regardless of what he said or has in his bank account, you have to admit since the mess began, since he has got involved it is the first time the club has moved forward.

They have assembled a reasonable squad with a modest enough spend and hired a very good manager. Like or dislike Rangers there is no denying on the outside looking in the club seems to be going in the right direction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_King_%28businessman%29

King has been "involved" with Rangers since 2012, they went to the wall while he was involved with them. He has been convicted for racketeering and money laundering, if I was a rangers fan I would be circumspect about what he says.

bobbysands81 · 29-10-2015 03:50PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

No as simply put all these problems arose from the former boards. You kep going over the same things Bobby why. Are you upset we are not out of money by the time Phil the bigot spoke from his oracle (arse).
Not up on the latest initial things GUBU

You won't find me lauding Phil...

As for the other problems that you say 'arose from the former boards', well Dave King used to be on the former board of the previous company so why not hold him to account for that?

Also all the things I listed are things that Dave King has responsibility for, things you cannot blame previous owners of previous companies for.

Dave King said he'd have a NOMAD, he doesn't.
Dave King chose to delist Rangers from the Stock Exchange.
Dave King could easily bring outgoings under control and end reckless spending, he hasn't.
Dave King could publish audited accounts, he chooses not to.
Dave King could be a stand up guy, but he chose to be a convicted fraudster, crook and a 'glib and shameless liar'.

Forget about who is giving you this message, surely the above sets off alarm bells?

TheCitizen · 29-10-2015 04:00PM

bobbysands81 wrote: »

You won't find me lauding Phil...

As for the other problems that you say 'arose from the former boards', well Dave King used to be on the former board of the previous company so why not hold him to account for that?

Also all the things I listed are things that Dave King has responsibility for, things you cannot blame previous owners of previous companies for.

Dave King said he'd have a NOMAD, he doesn't.
Dave King chose to delist Rangers from the Stock Exchange.
Dave King could easily bring outgoings under control and end reckless spending, he hasn't.
Dave King could publish audited accounts, he chooses not to.
Dave King could be a stand up guy, but he chose to be a convicted fraudster, crook and a 'glib and shameless liar'.

Forget about who is giving you this message, surely the above sets off alarm bells?

He could also pay off Ashley his 5 million quid seeing as he is worth 600 million according to that wiki page. Instead he chooses to write strongly worded letters in the press.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 29-10-2015 04:11PM

bobbysands81 wrote: »

You won't find me lauding Phil...

As for the other problems that you say 'arose from the former boards', well Dave King used to be on the former board of the previous company so why not hold him to account for that?

Also all the things I listed are things that Dave King has responsibility for, things you cannot blame previous owners of previous companies for.

Dave King said he'd have a NOMAD, he doesn't.
Dave King chose to delist Rangers from the Stock Exchange.
Dave King could easily bring outgoings under control and end reckless spending, he hasn't.
Dave King could publish audited accounts, he chooses not to.
Dave King could be a stand up guy, but he chose to be a convicted fraudster, crook and a 'glib and shameless liar'.

Forget about who is giving you this message, surely the above sets off alarm bells?

If I can blame a previous board do you honestly believe all the problems caused by the previous board have gone away. Really Bobby I wonder where your thought process is at when it comes down to it you have made your feelings clear as have I so all I can say is see my previous answer

bobbysands81 · 29-10-2015 05:34PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

If I can blame a previous board do you honestly believe all the problems caused by the previous board have gone away. Really Bobby I wonder where your thought process is at when it comes down to it you have made your feelings clear as have I so all I can say is see my previous answer

No I don't believe your problems from mismanagement under previous regimes has gone away not do I think that Dave King is addressing them properly. There is a complete lack of effective corporate governance at Rangers that King could resolve but chooses not to... you gotta wonder why that is?

I notice you haven't negated my argument above, but I find it cry strange that you don't have an issue with how KING is currently running the club.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 29-10-2015 05:55PM

bobbysands81 wrote: »

No I don't believe your problems from mismanagement under previous regimes has gone away not do I think that Dave King is addressing them properly. There is a complete lack of effective corporate governance at Rangers that King could resolve but chooses not to... you gotta wonder why that is?

I notice you haven't negated my argument above, but I find it cry strange that you don't have an issue with how KING is currently running the club.

I don' have a problem because I see things getting done slowly and I am sorry none of the things you mention can be addressed easily due to the contracts that were put in place before King and exmple is Green and him wanting Rangers to pay his legal bills so that means everything has to be gone through with a fine tooth comb. I really don't want you to worry about myself and the others on here so feel free to get over it.

So to put it to bed

1 We don't fully trust this board I doubt we will ever fully trust any board

2 At the moment not only are they having to deal with the whole Whyte Green escapade plus Ashley they are also having to rebuild which they are doing for most it is going at a speed that fine.

3 Your idea that these things can be sorted quickly shows you know nothing of whats going on IMHO

instead of repeating this every few weeks I will just repost this

That is of course we are still going I am sure the oracle will be spouting soon

Regards

BBE

Dempsey · 30-10-2015 11:30PM

Dempsey wrote: »

Oh, so he has put the money onto the books of RIFC plc? Show me that financial statement

The silence after this post was deafening...:pac:

Jelle1880 · 31-10-2015 01:12AM

Still going I see

I really would love a new timeline by when we can expect an insolvency event or bankruptcy. It seems you know more than we do, so that should be easy information to find, right ? I'm sure we'd all appreciate it tremendously.

I mean, obviously (that is, if we would believe the load of nonsense spouted here by the usual suspects) we are in deep, deep trouble.

Have the padlocks been put on the gates of Auchenhowie yet ?

I also see a lot of posts constantly asking about financial information. Is this a one way street kinda thing then ? Because if you're claiming all this crap then surely you can back it up ?

Unless you're just regurgitating stuff from twitter

Which would of course be preposterous. Right ?

Dempsey · 31-10-2015 01:23AM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Still going I see

I really would love a new timeline by when we can expect an insolvency event or bankruptcy. It seems you know more than we do, so that should be easy information to find, right ? I'm sure we'd all appreciate it tremendously.

I mean, obviously (that is, if we would believe the load of nonsense spouted here by the usual suspects) we are in deep, deep trouble.

Have the padlocks been put on the gates of Auchenhowie yet ?

I qlso see a lot of posts constantly asking about financial information, yet none of it seems to be provided by you lot ? Surely if you're that confident you must have something to back it up ?

Unless you're just regurgitating stuff from twitter Which would of course be preposterous. Right ?

Again, I never mentioned bankruptcy but considering your track record, you should expect everyone to know the reality of the situation before you will inevitably accept it.

I asked for the financial statement because I know none have been published under King. Has he gotten a patsy to audit the accounts yet? If that penny dropped, you wouldnt have asked the question which leads me to believe that you dont know as much as you claim about your own club because if RIFC plc actually found an auditor of note, it would make the news!!

weldoninhio · 31-10-2015 02:38AM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Still going I see

I really would love a new timeline by when we can expect an insolvency event or bankruptcy. It seems you know more than we do, so that should be easy information to find, right ? I'm sure we'd all appreciate it tremendously.

I mean, obviously (that is, if we would believe the load of nonsense spouted here by the usual suspects) we are in deep, deep trouble.

Have the padlocks been put on the gates of Auchenhowie yet ?

I also see a lot of posts constantly asking about financial information. Is this a one way street kinda thing then ? Because if you're claiming all this crap then surely you can back it up ?

Unless you're just regurgitating stuff from twitter Which would of course be preposterous. Right ?

Celebrating not being able to get onto a stock exchange, hilarious. As I and many others said, you did not have enough money to see you through the season. As I and many others said you ran out of money in October and need loans to see you through.

What is the plan going forward? Where is the money coming from to pay back these loans or sustain the level of spending at the club. You can't sustain the level of spending in the Championship, you get a spanking every time you play a Prem team, how are you gonna compete to get extra European money? The end is nigh. It's just delayed. No loss-making business ever survives unless it suddenly starts making money and that's not gonna happen.

Edit: Forgot to add, you haven't even given Sports Direct notice to quit your retail deal so that still has at least 7 years to run.

Dozen Wicked Words · 31-10-2015 08:21AM

MOD

Continually asking the same questions, getting the same answers, is pointless. Posters borderline obsession with a club not even in their league at present is weird, it could also be seen as trolling. Rangers may well be going out of business, or who knows, Dave King might put his hand in his pocket and spend.

So when there is actual news, from a credible source, feel free to post it, once. There will then be something new to discuss. Until then, stick to on field and team related matters.

Don't reply on thread, any issue PM me.

Thanks

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 01-11-2015 01:04PM

Right Hibs away today. A lot of nonsense being spoken about this game ie if we win the league is over etc. The league is not won till it is impossible for anyone to catch us.

So today's team is certainly interesting and throws ap a fair few talking points none more so than three central defenders plus Clark starting up front.

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Broxi_Bear_Eire · 01-11-2015 01:44PM

Cumming puts Hibs one up wit a cracking shot from outside the box

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 01-11-2015 02:20PM

Need to change things I would hook Webster he seems to be suffering from Andy Webster syndrome. Clark as well though we are dhort of striker options

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 01-11-2015 02:38PM

Wallace draws us level after his shot is deflected by McGregor into the hibs goal. Feel for McGregor nah :pac::pac::pac:

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 01-11-2015 03:02PM

Hibs go 2-1 up header from a corner

Jelle1880 · 01-11-2015 03:16PM

So far I expected this, we were winning but the performances have dropped significantly where as Hibs are on a great run.
Not sure what Warburton was thinking with that double substitution, totally killed any momentum we had

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 01-11-2015 03:37PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

So far I expected this, we were winning but the performances have dropped significantly where as Hibs are on a great run.
Not sure what Warburton was thinking with that double substitution, totally killed any momentum we had

Well Wilson had to go off for starters. We have to remember we hit the bar twice and post once and had a very good pen turned down.
IMO our defence needs work also we need a goalscorer. When you bring on Shiels to try and save the game it shows how many players we need to change over the next couple of windows. Also others seem complacent Tav being one of them points dropped but sometimes this is needed to get people back on track

Jelle1880 · 03-11-2015 12:00AM

SPORTS DIRECT attempted to block an Ibrox fans group raising cash for the Rangers Former Players Benevolent Fund over an alleged trademark breach.

The Evening Times has obtained a copy of a letter, dated August 21, from London-based Reynolds Porter Chamberlain LLP to James Blair, the Company Secretary of Rangers International Football Club plc, which relates to the sale of a season ticket card holder by the Sons of Struth.

The SoS began selling the items to Gers fans after they were returned to the club by the widow of the late Colin Jackson, who helped set up the Rangers Former Players Benevolent Fund in 2001 alongside John Greig, Sandy Jardine and Peter McCloy and passed away earlier this year following a battle with leukaemia.

The holders, which have the Rangers five star logo and ‘Rangers till I die’ on the front and the badge of the RFPBF and ‘contribution towards Rangers Former Players Benevolent Fund’ on the back, were available for a minimum donation of £1 and raised a four-figure sum for the charity.

On January 27 this year, Sports Direct took control of Rangers’ registered trademarks when the former Ibrox board agreed a multi-million pound loan deal with the Mike Ashley-owned firm.

The letter states: “Naturally our client is concerned that such use may have an adverse effect on sales of genuine Rangers products and the validity of the relevant registered marks. Consequently, please ensure that your client takes immediate action to defend this infringement.”

In May, Sports Direct called an EGM in a bid to force the Rangers board to repay the £5million loan to Mr Ashley and gained a High Court injunction that prevents any Ibrox directors from revealing the details of the merchandise deal between the sportswear firm and Rangers Retail Limited.

Chairman Dave King last week insisted Rangers would not be ‘cowed’ by the threat of legal action and stated his intention to ensure ‘that Sports Direct is legally and financially held accountable for its failures’.

Rangers fans are continuing to boycott Sports Direct stores and official Gers merchandise in protest at Mr Ashley’s Ibrox influence and Craig Houston of the Sons of Struth told the Evening Times: “I was shocked and stunned when the club approached me to say that they had received the legal complaint about us raising money for the Benevolent Fund.

“It was perfectly clear that nobody was making profit from the season ticket holders. We were turning up at Ibrox with buckets, people were putting a donation in and they got a season ticket holder with the Benevolent Fund badge on it. It was very clear that every penny would go to the Benevolent Fund.”

The Evening Times contacted Sports Direct for a reply but had received no response at the time of writing.

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/13931530.Sports_Direct_bid_to_block_charity_cash_to_Rangers_Former_Players_Benevolent_Fund/?ref=twtrec

And some on here want to make us believe Ashley is our best hope and not just a scumbag.

He reportedly also claims King broke the gagging order by his comments last week and wants him jailed. Seems he's throwing his toys firmly out the pram.

Rangers FC On Field Gossip & Rumour Thread 2017 Mod Note in OP(Updated 14/08)

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