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pedigree 6 · 28-10-2015 01:38AM

Mad4simmental wrote: »

It's crazy the amount of beef and dairy cattle stations the Chinese are buying up in oz. Millions and millions of acres.

Yea they're even making new land out at sea,

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They must love farming. Where ever all this money comes from I don't know.
Either they're printing new money there or they're buying land and they'll pay in 30 years time.
I just hope that foreign companies e.g Glanbia will have the same access to their markets and not just limited to Chinese companies abroad.
Maybe we should sell Belview to Chinese investors?
Having the green image and air quality was a big factor in buying in Tasmania.

WheatenBriar · 28-10-2015 04:05AM

Lordy,if I ever snore like the cow outside my bedroom window tonight,will somebody please hit me?

I actually had to get up to see what was going on,I thought she had milk fever or something

Kovu · 28-10-2015 04:36AM

My brain read that as 'inside' instead of 'outside'
I was mightily confused until I read it another couple of times :pac:

trixi2011 · 28-10-2015 10:02AM

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Yea they're even making new land out at sea, .
They must love farming. Where ever all this money comes from I don't know.
Either they're printing new money there or they're buying land and they'll pay in 30 years time.
I just hope that foreign companies e.g Glanbia will have the same access to their markets and not just limited to Chinese companies abroad.
Maybe we should sell Belview to Chinese investors?

Having the green image and air quality was a big factor in buying in Tasmania.

They own quite alot in nz as well . They own the majority share in synlait milk in carterbury. One single chinese company now own crafer farms and synlait farms as well as some big stations.

kowtow · 28-10-2015 10:04AM

WheatenBriar wrote: »

Lordy,if I ever snore like the cow outside my bedroom window tonight,will somebody please hit me?
I actually had to get up to see what was going on,I thought she had milk fever or something

Must be the full moon or something, I had the same problem.

Turned out to be a heifer who had climbed up through the grooms door of the horsebox, quietly eating away at a net of haylage my daughter had left in there.

Tempting to leave her in there and see what she's like in the Dressage Arena.

kowtow · 28-10-2015 10:06AM

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Yea they're even making new land out at sea, .

Either they're printing new money there or they're buying land and they'll pay in 30 years time.

They are spending the US treasury bonds they bought with all the money we borrowed against our houses and sent them in return for flat screen televisions and Iphones. So strictly speaking they are buying land and we will pay in 30 years time...

It's the West that is printing money, so the Chinese are exchanging our bonds (which we can print more of) for our land (which we can't).

Greengrass1 · 28-10-2015 02:08PM

Farm cover 780
Gr 24
2 pddks left at 1400 farm cover is 680 then. Not too far off shutting up shop

frazzledhome · 28-10-2015 02:18PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Farm cover 780
Gr 24
2 pddks left at 1400 farm cover is 680 then. Not too far off shutting up shop

Your afc is 780, what's your closing cover?

Greengrass1 · 28-10-2015 02:37PM

frazzledhome wrote: »

Your afc is 780, what's your closing cover?

680 when 2 1400s are gone. Another pddk at 1200 Il have to graze that to aswell didn't get grazed well last time

pedigree 6 · 28-10-2015 03:05PM

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/73306280/cranking-up-the-foreign-investment-debate
I see kowtow you're right when you mention the flat screen tvs.:D
No wonder they're buying land when they can't buy it in their own country.

Milked out · 28-10-2015 03:26PM

trixi2011 wrote: »

They own quite alot in nz as well . They own the majority share in synlait milk in carterbury. One single chinese company now own crafer farms and synlait farms as well as some big stations.

Where the US not tge biggest buyer of land in NZ?

kowtow · 28-10-2015 03:40PM

pedigree 6 wrote: »

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/73306280/cranking-up-the-foreign-investment-debate
I see kowtow you're right when you mention the flat screen tvs.:D
No wonder they're buying land when they can't buy it in their own country.

Yeh.. its a bit of a depressing trade.

Basically they are saying they'd rather not hold on to the bit of paper representing the next 30 years of Western prosperity, and if its all the same to us they'll take the land instead....

It doesn't mean much in the great scheme of things - yet at least - at one level it's just a rational move given the amount of dollar paper they are holding.

whelan2 · 28-10-2015 07:52PM

going to vaccinate for salmonella next week, it will be the first time so have to do a booster in a few weeks. Do I do cows and in calf heifers what about youngstock. Was a farmer in vets today who is the middle of an outbreak of salmonella and I was :eek::eek:

mahoney_j · 28-10-2015 08:02PM

whelan2 wrote: »

going to vaccinate for salmonella next week, it will be the first time so have to do a booster in a few weeks. Do I do cows and in calf heifers what about youngstock. Was a farmer in vets today who is the middle of an outbreak of salmonella and I was :eek::eek:

Do all cows and in calf heifers Asap.i do all cows and heifers here (spring calving)in August .doing it now is a bit late but better late than never .nast fookin thing to hit cows .ni need to do young stock .vaccine ain't cheap at circa 6 euro a shot .

whelan2 · 28-10-2015 09:02PM

was there any announcement on the dairy aid package yet?

WheatenBriar · 28-10-2015 09:08PM

whelan2 wrote: »

was there any announcement on the dairy aid package yet?

It was discussed at a local Icmsa meeting down here at which John Comer attended
Its to be paid via the Bps system into your bank account sometime in January
Its not going to make anyone up though,the average payment he said would be about €700

Cow Porter · 29-10-2015 12:03AM

whelan2 wrote: »

going to vaccinate for salmonella next week, it will be the first time so have to do a booster in a few weeks. Do I do cows and in calf heifers what about youngstock. Was a farmer in vets today who is the middle of an outbreak of salmonella and I was :eek::eek:

Started here again this year and only done all that was incalf. expensive especially in year one but anyone you talk to says its the last one they'd drop.

alps · 29-10-2015 12:56AM

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dairy_products

Just for a little light reading when you begin to wonder...what else could I do with my milk...?

pedigree 6 · 29-10-2015 02:02AM

alps wrote: »

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dairy_products

Just for a little light reading when you begin to wonder...what else could I do with my milk...?

You could go to the shops for a junket.
Does any of the processors make those probiotic drinks here?

Kovu · 29-10-2015 02:11AM

alps wrote: »

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dairy_products

Just for a little light reading when you begin to wonder...what else could I do with my milk...?

Mmmmm kefir & lassi, two of my favourite things.

kowtow · 29-10-2015 10:43AM

Kovu wrote: »

Mmmmm kefir & lassi, two of my favourite things.

keffir grains would be the stuff of a food safety authorities nightmares.

Yum.

alps · 29-10-2015 11:56AM

Traditional kefir is fermented at ambient temperatures, generally overnight. Fermentation of the lactose yields a sour, carbonated, slightly alcoholic beverage, with a consistency and taste similar to thin yogurt.[11]

Loads of fermented products on that list....reckon we'd be on a real winner if we could concentrate on alcohol content.

Forget the baby powders.........

kowtow · 29-10-2015 12:08PM

alps wrote: »

Traditional kefir is fermented at ambient temperatures, generally overnight. Fermentation of the lactose yields a sour, carbonated, slightly alcoholic beverage, with a consistency and taste similar to thin yogurt...

Really traditional kefir is maintained in a sheeps stomach hanging in the top of a yurt

The kefir grains (the actual culture) live on for thousands of years as long as they are fed with whole milk, and they contain almost every one of the bacteria required for cheesemakinig (candidens, penicillium, etc. etc. )

There is a rather hip extreme cheesemaker in Canada who uses only Kefir to culture his milk, and makes the entire range of cheeses. Interestingly, because he doesn't use lab cultures as almost all modern cheesemakers do he doesn't have to sterilise everything as he goes, he just relies on the vigour of the kefir culture which has maintained itself for so long.

He can't sell the product of course as nobody would certify him, but he's not killing anyone (so far!).

Interesting stuff, kefir.

browned · 29-10-2015 03:36PM

http://www.positivefarmers.ie/2016-conferenceprogram.htm

Positive farmers have announced their line up for their January conference. First days looks a bit blah but the second day looks quite good. Will prob head give that it's in cork this time

Greengrass1 · 29-10-2015 03:38PM

browned wrote: »

http://www.positivefarmers.ie/2016-conferenceprogram.htm

Positive farmers have announced their line up for their January conference. First days looks a bit blah but the second day looks quite good. Will prob head give that it's in cork this time

The teagasc dairy conference looks a good one. Has specialised workshops for different areas
http://www.teagasc.ie/events/Dairy_Conference/registration.asp

browned · 29-10-2015 04:09PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

The teagasc dairy conference looks a good one. Has specialised workshops for different areas
http://www.teagasc.ie/events/Dairy_Conference/registration.asp

Looks very good actually. Felt the teagasc conference had gone done hill in the last couple of years. Will be interesting to see how the workshops go

Milked out · 29-10-2015 05:13PM

9 autumn girls left to calve 8 of which in next 2 weeks please god, one then dec 12. Would be great if the most could calve outside. Have em in a sheltered paddock but at end of farm, bring em closer near calving then . If I get caught basket for loader is handy for calves, cow tends to follow then bar the odd one who doesn't generally when u need to be somewhere else!

Buford T. Justice XIX · 29-10-2015 05:22PM

Quick question, guys and gals, seeing as I now have a beef herd for the next few months, when would you squeeze the bull calves or should I squeeze at all?

The strong maiden heifers are by themselves buy the later/weaker ones are in a mixed group of 30 bulls and heifers getting ration by themselves and I would hope to keep them out till the turn of the year at the earliest.

The plan would be to sell them in march if I can manage to keep them till then or as soon as a clear test if not.

I haven't had any beef here with 20 years so a steep learning curve is about to begin:o

whelan2 · 29-10-2015 05:31PM

Milked out wrote: »

9 autumn girls left to calve 8 of which in next 2 weeks please god, one then dec 12. Would be great if the most could calve outside. Have em in a sheltered paddock but at end of farm, bring em closer near calving then . If I get caught basket for loader is handy for calves, cow tends to follow then bar the odd one who doesn't generally when u need to be somewhere else!

great job calving them outside if the weather plays ball. No bedding etc. Less disease

Timmaay · 29-10-2015 05:46PM

Milked out wrote: »

9 autumn girls left to calve 8 of which in next 2 weeks please god, one then dec 12. Would be great if the most could calve outside. Have em in a sheltered paddock but at end of farm, bring em closer near calving then . If I get caught basket for loader is handy for calves, cow tends to follow then bar the odd one who doesn't generally when u need to be somewhere else!

Tried to stupidly wheelbarrow a calf up the field once last yr (quad was outa action, and didn't want to plough up the field with the tractor). Little sh1t kept standing up, tipping it over, and landing in the muck ha. Calved everything in a Paddock beside the parlour this yr, finished up last week, happy days. If I can pick up a few heifers, and scanning of the late spring cows goes very well I might just be tempted to flog on any empty and be done with autumn calving for good ha!

On a related note about calving the wrong time of the yr, really seeing the downside to April/may calvers at the second, some of them well back in yield with the poor weather, and I really need them to milk on until end of Jan. Hopefully they'll improve once housed.

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