Students chanting "Sinn Féin" and "IRA" make misery for Cork residents

elefant · 25-10-2015 10:35PM

Paramite Pie wrote: »

I've never heard the "fields of Athenry" with any added lyrics.... I'm from Galway.... is this actually a thing??

Very odd. I'd say you'd be hard pressed to find any other person anywhere in Galway who hasn't heard them!

Famous usage includes the Galway team adding the extra lyrics in the sing-song on the team bus after the Connacht championship win v Mayo in A Year Til Sunday.

feargale · 26-10-2015 12:03AM

Some of you have passed off this IRA chanting as youthful exhubernce.
Would you take the same view of Queen's students in Belfast chanting approvingly about the UVF or the UDA?
If you demand the rights of an adult you must assume the responsibilities of an adult.

The Randy Riverbeast · 26-10-2015 12:14AM

feargale wrote: »

Would you take the same view of Queen's students in Belfast chanting approvingly about the UVF or the UDA?

Yes, I dont care about stupid chants about crap from years ago but this scourge of portrait recording needs to be wiped out regardless of their views.

26-10-2015 12:25AM

Of course it's stupid.

But students should get allowances to be stupid. I was a student many moons ago and I did stupid things and it was all part of the transition from being a teenager into an adult. Most of that crowd will go through the same thing, but let's not demand mature reflection from them right now, give them time.

BrianBoru00 · 26-10-2015 12:26AM

feargale wrote: »

Some of you have passed off this IRA chanting as youthful exhubernce.
Would you take the same view of Queen's students in Belfast chanting approvingly about the UVF or the UDA?
If you demand the rights of an adult you must assume the responsibilities of an adult.

you mean if they were singing "Land of Hope and glory" and interspersing it with UVF / BNP chants??

Absolutely.

much like the above I 'd think it was mindless and tastless and tainting an great song but the heading is misleading - they were having a sing song ffs.

Bonedigger · 26-10-2015 12:59AM

feargale wrote: »

Some of you have passed off this IRA chanting as youthful exhubernce.
Would you take the same view of Queen's students in Belfast chanting approvingly about the UVF or the UDA?
If you demand the rights of an adult you must assume the responsibilities of an adult.

Do you honestly believe any of those gob****es have an affiliation to the I.R.A. or Sinn Féin? I don't!

Iwasfrozen · 26-10-2015 01:34AM

Bonedigger wrote: »

Do you honestly believe any of those gob****es have an affiliation to the I.R.A. or Sinn Féin? I don't!

Nope. The comparison feargale made is a good one though. How would you feel if Queen's students started chanting about the UVF?

Cool_CM · 26-10-2015 01:36AM

timthumbni wrote: »

**** and these young ones are supposed to be the educated ones... Jaysus.

2nd year Med students according to one of the girls I work with who lives around the corner.

TheLastMohican · 26-10-2015 01:50AM

timthumbni wrote: »

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**** and these young ones are supposed to be the educated ones... Jaysus.

They'd have a long way to go before they equalled the rank ranks of the Eton, Harrow, Winchester (etc) platoon of fag-educated politicians with arcane ideas on life, living and private's in a pig's mouth - without first seeking permission from the pig.

Colser · 26-10-2015 08:39AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Of course it's stupid.

But students should get allowances to be stupid. I was a student many moons ago and I did stupid things and it was all part of the transition from being a teenager into an adult. Most of that crowd will go through the same thing, but let's not demand mature reflection from them right now, give them time.

Would that be your opinion if you were living next door to that house Conor?

jooksavage · 26-10-2015 08:48AM

elefant wrote: »

Very odd. I'd say you'd be hard pressed to find any other person anywhere in Galway who hasn't heard them!

Famous usage includes the Galway team adding the extra lyrics in the sing-song on the team bus after the Connacht championship win v Mayo in A Year Til Sunday.

I've heard the Sinn Fein / IRA lyrics a few times in Ballina, Mayo (my wife's hometown). Weirdly enough, one of the occasions was the afters of a wedding. The father of the bride had actually ran (unsuccessfully) for a Fine Gael council seat at some point and the two families certainly wouldn't have any republican affiliations.

BreadnBuddha · 26-10-2015 08:50AM

Colser wrote: »

Would that be your opinion if you were living next door to that house Conor?

Or living next door to Alice, Conor?

Who the F is Alice!?

Oh I thought this was a drunken singsong thread.

kippy · 26-10-2015 09:04AM

Paramite Pie wrote: »

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

They don't seem to be chanting Sinn Fein or IRA, they seem to be singing "The fields of Athenry" with the extra lines that everyone grew up hearing. I'm no Republican but I have difficulty hearing that song without adding those extra lines just because I have heard them so regularly.

I've never heard the "fields of Athenry" with any added lyrics.... I'm from Galway.... is this actually a thing??

What's being from Galway got to do with anything? You do realise the song is not about the Athenry in Galway......
As for adding in Sinn Fein and IRA- that's pretty common in sign songs and gets more prevalent as drink levels increase.

jooksavage · 26-10-2015 09:09AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Of course it's stupid.

But students should get allowances to be stupid. I was a student many moons ago and I did stupid things and it was all part of the transition from being a teenager into an adult. Most of that crowd will go through the same thing, but let's not demand mature reflection from them right now, give them time.

Please. This rites-of-passage bull**** makes me nauseous. Grainy and all as the footage is, we can see half a dozen people here acting like complete f**king assholes. I studied for 5 years in UCC. During my masters year, we were unlucky enough to get a place on the same street as what appeared to be 500000 first years from Kerry crammed into a 4 bed terraced house. They were eventually turfed out halfway through the year by the landlord after they all but demolished their accommodation, leaving it looking like it had been bombed out by NATO.

Their age or immaturity doesn't explain, let alone excuse their behavior. No one here is asking for them to be strung from the lampposts. But in fairness, a few of them deserve their asses kicked, student or not.

Zebra3 · 26-10-2015 09:16AM

josephryan1989 wrote: »

Despicable scenes were filmed in Cork as UCC students were filmed openly chanting "Sinn Féin" and "IRA" as they rampaged drunkenly.

If you're looking to use the word "despicable", use it to refer to how people vote for FG/FF/Labour who couldn't give a toss that elderly people lie dying in hospital corridors on trollies, not to describe a few drunken students.

Bulbous Salutation · 26-10-2015 09:17AM

Sinn Fein has always attracted a rump of supporters who are young men with some deluded romanticised notion about Ireland. Rarely the sharpest knives in the block either. You'd hate to call them disenfranchised though as they're getting to attend 3rd level education for pretty much nothing. Stupid and entitled is a more accurate assessment.

Arbiter of Good Taste · 26-10-2015 09:22AM

Zebra3 wrote: »

If you're looking to use the word "despicable", use it to refer to how people vote for FG/FF/Labour who couldn't give a toss that elderly people lie dying in hospital corridors on trollies, not to describe a few drunken students.

What does all that have to do with this thread?

Bulbous Salutation · 26-10-2015 09:31AM

Arbiter of Good Taste wrote: »

What does all that have to do with this thread?

Absolutely nothing. He's one of those posters who turns everything into a rant about America, Israel, our Government. They get especially tetchy when you dare to question the sordid nationalist dogma of their beloved SF.

Zebra3 · 26-10-2015 09:52AM

Arbiter of Good Taste wrote: »

What does all that have to do with this thread?

A lot but maybe it obviously needs a bit of explaining for some. :rolleyes:

The word "despicable" was used to describe something that would be best described as "idiotic" or "foolish" and I gave an alternative to what would describe "despicable".

Have I hit a nerve?

Bonedigger · 26-10-2015 10:37AM

feargale wrote: »

Some of you have passed off this IRA chanting as youthful exhubernce.
Would you take the same view of Queen's students in Belfast chanting approvingly about the UVF or the UDA?

Bonedigger wrote: »

Do you honestly believe any of those gob****es have an affiliation to the I.R.A. or Sinn Féin? I don't!

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Nope. The comparison feargale made is a good one though. How would you feel if Queen's students started chanting about the UVF?

It's likely then that if QUB students did the same thing, I'm sure you would also agree that they wouldn't have a real affiliation to the UVF? I would assume the same thing, and therefore it wouldn't bother me in the slightest.
What's most shameful is what the local residents were subjected to.

play it again · 26-10-2015 12:31PM

kippy wrote: »

What's being from Galway got to do with anything? You do realise the song is not about the Athenry in Galway......
As for adding in Sinn Fein and IRA- that's pretty common in sign songs and gets more prevalent as drink levels increase.

Have you proof of this , Pete st John wrote this song in the 70s , but which Athenry was he writing about if not the galway town ?

The Backwards Man · 26-10-2015 12:39PM

play it again wrote: »

Have you proof of this , Pete st John wrote this song in the 70s , but which Athenry was he writing about if not the galway town ?

I think he's thinking of It's A Long Way To Tipperary, which was not actually about anywhere.

Eugene Norman · 26-10-2015 12:41PM

feargale wrote: »

Some of you have passed off this IRA chanting as youthful exhubernce.
Would you take the same view of Queen's students in Belfast chanting approvingly about the UVF or the UDA?
If you demand the rights of an adult you must assume the responsibilities of an adult.

I was walking down a famed university town in England when a group of young skinny 18 years olds stumbled along singing No Surrender. No surrender. No surrender to the IRA.

So anyway I walk past them, they ask me the time, I give the time in an Irish accent, they say thanks. On we go.

Eugene Norman · 26-10-2015 12:44PM

Colser wrote: »

Would that be your opinion if you were living next door to that house Conor?

Well that's a different argument. About noise not content. The citizens of cork do put up with a lot from the student population as any visit would attest. I guess many of those city centre houses are rentals and people know what they are getting into.

Eugene Norman · 26-10-2015 12:47PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I think he's thinking of It's A Long Way To Tipperary, which was not actually about anywhere.

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It's about the British army garrison in Tipperary town. Also it parses very well for the tune.

The Backwards Man · 26-10-2015 12:59PM

Eugene Norman wrote: »

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It's about the British army garrison in Tipperary town. Also it parses very well for the tune.

Na, it's not about any particular garrison anywhere, it's just as you say, the name parses well for the tune.

Boring username · 26-10-2015 01:07PM

TheLastMohican wrote: »

They'd have a long way to go before they equalled the rank ranks of the Eton, Harrow, Winchester (etc) platoon of fag-educated politicians with arcane ideas on life, living and private's in a pig's mouth - without first seeking permission from the pig.

It's funny that people are taking this as gospel. It was a claim by a disgruntled Tory who feels aggrieved that Cameron didn't reward him for his support during the election.
Oh, and he has a book coming out too. Conspiracy theory forum that way >>>

Eugene Norman · 26-10-2015 01:17PM

Boring username wrote: »

It's funny that people are taking this as gospel. It was a claim by a disgruntled Tory who feels aggrieved that Cameron didn't reward him for his support during the election.
Oh, and he has a book coming out too. Conspiracy theory forum that way >>>

Those kind of university societies do that kind of thing all the time. As well as burning £50 in front of homeless people.

Boring username · 26-10-2015 02:24PM

Eugene Norman wrote: »

Those kind of university societies do that kind of thing all the time. As well as burning £50 in front of homeless people.

Oh I've no doubt these guys are obnoxious frat boy douchebags. But it's one thing to make an outrageous claim, and another thing to prove it. All we are going on is a third hand, unnamed source from a disgruntled hack.

It's a slippery slope when we start taking rumour, accusation, and innuendo as the truth without first verifying. Just remember the treatment of Lord McAlpine.

Orangebrigade · 26-10-2015 05:41PM

Well at least they are being honest about supporting IRA lunatics. The rebel county was always known for this.

Students chanting "Sinn Féin" and "IRA" make misery for Cork residents

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