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Anyone sick of Tom Meagher and Jenny Stanley?

  • 25-10-2015 11:04PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭


    Hot on the heels of Jenny Stanley having an anxiety attack about drunken packs of eejits whooping and hollering and making lewd comments about passing women - this never ever happened before in the entire history of the world! - now poor Tom Meagher has turned up to flagellate himself once again.

    He is the front man for the white ribbon campaign, a jawdroppingly wrongheaded campaign to end violence against women - by simply demanding it stop. :rolleyes:

    Meagher you may remember was the husband of Jill Meagher who was horrifically raped and murdered by a stone cold psycho sex killer who was out on bail even though he had horrifically raped other women. Psychopathic sex killers will always rape and kill women which is why there are detectives worldwide in every city in every society in the world who do nothing else but put scumbags like this behind bars. Rapist murdering scum are not going to stop raping and murdering because of white ribbons and pleas for them to stop. They have to be put behind bars.

    Meagher has resurfaced again after a male college student took understandable exception to being invited to an event where men were being instructed in sexual consent. The college student posted his picture on social media with the slogan ’This is not what a rapist looks like’. A tiny minority of men with zero empathy and uncontrollable rage and hatred of women rape women. The overwhelming majority of men do not rape because they are not psychologically disordered or unhinged. Meagher thinks otherwise of course.

    “That’s exactly what a rapist looks like ... I’m exactly what a rapist looks like ...,” said Meagher in response, urging men to take more responsibility and stop “othering” the experience by saying most men don’t engage in such behaviour.
    “Of course most men wouldn’t do this, but so what? We’re not going to give you a cookie for doing the minimum you can to be a decent human being”.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/i-m-exactly-what-a-rapist-looks-like-tom-meagher-1.2405365

    Meagher is flagellating himself and the entire male sex for the crimes of sick degenerates like the scumbag who killed his wife. His ideology is utterly naive and ridiculous but worse is poisonous because banter and ribald behavior is now put in the same box as real violence and barbarity against women.

    Give any group of men a few drinks and in no time they will sing lusty sexually suggestive songs and rude jokes and make exaggerated macho sexual displays to passing women. None of them are stupid enough to think that women will drop their drawers and group copulate with them on the street. They are not going to go on the rampage gang raping every woman they see like some marauding barbarian army. It's clearly just fun and no harm is meant whatsoever.

    For many people of both sexes it is only when we drink or are drunk that we get the courage in the case of men - to make an approach - and in the case of women - to accept an approach - because alcohol frees us from inhibitions.

    People like Stanley - indoctrinated by deranged feminist ideology that all men are in some form rapists i.e the only difference between the rapist who drags a woman into the bushes and the smooth type who seduces with charisma, charm, displays of sophistication, haute cuisine, chocolates, flowers and wonderful lovemaking is a matter of degrees. So a bunch of lads up for the craic are suddenly transformed into horned devils because they are on the road to flown blown rape don't you know. It is interesting that the lads she describe are clearly working class boys who should be behaving like respectful bearded hipsters who ask formally for sexual consent. Sex is now weaponized with the sexual act itself an oppressive act of violation.

    “I was overwhelmed with anger that they felt they could say those things to me. But I stopped myself from responding because I felt I would be putting myself in danger. I felt stifled, and that was frustrating,” she said. She was almost carried off by the Taliban wasn't she?

    One is reminded of that scene in Braveheart when the effeminate English wince in disgust as the Scottish lift their kilts. Stanley, a pretty young slip of a girl who is well dressed and middle class obviously does not mix with uncouth young fellas who like to get locked and look for some "gee."

    To sum up, sexual prudes in the case of Stanley and busy body middle class snobs like Meagher made worse by his personal tragedy who want society to conform with their uptight and stuck up attitudes have not gone away despite the demise of Roman Catholicism. No matter how educated or liberated Stanley feels she as a modern woman she is still going to be lusted after by men who check out her bum and her boobs. Tom Meagher suffered a horrific nightmare in his case the Big Bad Wolf really did devour Red Riding Hood. That does not give him the right to pontificate and call all men potential rapists and that men as a gender are guilty for the crimes of hideous creatures like the scumbag who defiled and slaughtered his wife.

    The only way to police men to make them act like the perfect gentlemen Stanley and Meagher obviously want would be to create a police state.
    Harmless banter and rudeness suddenly would become crimes. Stanley is obviously too immature and fragile and precious to deal with modern life while Meagher thinks his terrible experience has given him sufficient insight into humanity to make him a self-appointed secular bishop.

    They can both f*ck off.


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 607 ✭✭✭sonny.knowles


    I have never heard of either person.

    These seems to be some load of sh1t out there, this thread included. Threads like this just propagate it.

    Makes me wish the Internet would just FOAD. No offence OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Most certainly tl=dr.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    It's a bank holiday Sunday, ffs I can't be dealing with heavy topics at this hour. Somebody make a boob joke or something.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭strelok


    eviltwin wrote: »
    It's a bank holiday Sunday, ffs I can't be dealing with heavy topics at this hour. Some make a boob joke or something.

    why did child protective services take the ducklings away from the mother duck?


    they were quack babies


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Arsemageddon


    Bejaysus OP, you must have an awful lot of free time


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    Give any group of men a few drinks and in no time they will sing lusty sexually suggestive songs and rude jokes and make exaggerated macho sexual displays to passing women.

    This isn't true. Most men aren't boorish cunts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Boring username


    You know, I was going to start a thread on this earlier. I dunno if Tom Meagher is the full shilling, tbh. Either that or he is suffering from some major PTSD or guilt complex, and he now feels the need to set himself up as a whipping boy for extreme feminists who will milk him for every ounce of publicity before dumping him without a second thought.

    It was very tragic what happened to Jill Meagher, but I don't think Tom is doing her memory any help by publicly crucifying himself here. The man needs counselling fast, I hope someone close to him can advise him and set him straight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭Icaras


    Give any group of men a few drinks and in no time they will sing lusty sexually suggestive songs and rude jokes and make exaggerated macho sexual displays to passing women.

    Have you written all of the just to try and justify acting like a dick when you're drunk?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Give any group of men a few drinks and in no time they will sing lusty sexually suggestive songs and rude jokes and make exaggerated macho sexual displays to passing women.

    You've never been down the George.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭josephryan1989


    Icaras wrote: »
    Have you written all of the just to try and justify acting like a dick when you're drunk?

    Well maybe you should go birdwatching or hillwalking or save the whales or read some Tolstoy or something? :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    Well maybe you should go birdwatching or hillwalking or save the whales or read some Tolstoy or something? :D

    By claiming that obnoxious behaviour amongst groups of men is the norm, it's people like you who do men a disservice, not Tom Meagher.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,458 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    Who?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Well maybe you should go birdwatching or hillwalking or save the whales or read some Tolstoy or something? :D

    Maybe just try and not act like a dick? You might not have any sinister intentions but it's intimidating for a lone female to have a gang of lads make sexual remarks. She doesn't know it's only 'banter' does she?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Red King


    This white ribbon campaign seems to combine the worst instincts of internet attention seeking activism and feminism gone awry wherein somehow casting a generalised collective guilt over every man in the country will somehow help combat rape in this country.

    It is bizarre, misguided and utterly wrong.

    I feel sorry for Tom Meagher. It is awful what happened his wife and I can't help but feel that others are taking advantage of his situation to promote their own misguided crusade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭josephryan1989


    RayM wrote: »
    By claiming that obnoxious behaviour amongst groups of men is the norm, it's people like you who do men a disservice, not Tom Meagher.

    Do men a disservice? Men having a few drinks and having a laugh are as bad as the Waffen SS now? Are we going back to the Victorian period with smelling salts and women lepping up on chairs coz mice are scurrying about?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Streetwalker


    Never heard of either of them until now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    Do men a disservice? Men having a few drinks and having a laugh are as bad as the Waffen SS now?

    Yes, because I clearly compared behaving like a drunken arsehole with committing war crimes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭Azalea


    Men having a few drinks and having a laugh are as bad as the Waffen SS now?
    Jeez I don't think there was any comparison with the Waffen SS - not seeing such a post anyway. Having a few drinks and having a laugh is definitely ok. Shouting sexually explicit comments at a woman on her own (or anyone actually) isn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Do men a disservice? Men having a few drinks and having a laugh are as bad as the Waffen SS now? Are we going back to the Victorian period with smelling salts and women lepping up on chairs coz mice are scurrying about?

    Maybe you should stop drinking until you are mature enough to handle it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭Icaras


    Well maybe you should go birdwatching or hillwalking or save the whales or read some Tolstoy or something? :D

    Or maybe go for a few pints and not make exaggerated macho sexual displays to passing women (act like a normal person). :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭josephryan1989


    Red King wrote: »
    This white ribbon campaign seems to combine the worst instincts of internet attention seeking activism and feminism gone awry wherein somehow casting a generalised collective guilt over every man in the country will somehow help combat rape in this country.

    It is bizarre, misguided and utterly wrong.

    I feel sorry for Tom Meagher. It is awful what happened his wife and I can't help but feel that others are taking advantage of his situation to promote their own misguided crusade.

    The poor man has gotten into his head that harmless banter and devilment and tomfoolery are the edge of the wedge to rape.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭josephryan1989


    Azalea wrote: »
    Jeez I don't think there was any comparison with the Waffen SS - not seeing such a post anyway. Having a few drinks and having a laugh is definitely ok. Shouting sexually explicit comments at a woman on her own (or anyone actually) isn't.

    Sure it's only a bit of craic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭josephryan1989


    RayM wrote: »
    Yes, because I clearly compared behaving like a drunken arsehole with committing war crimes.

    The way Jenny Stanley was going on in her article a few days ago you'd swear the whole of Dublin was full of rape! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    Sure it's only a bit of craic.

    One man's 'bit of craic' is another man's 'being an obnoxious arsehole'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    You'd know the kids were on mid term break wouldn't you? :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    The way Jenny Stanley was going on in her article a few days ago you'd swear the whole of Dublin was full of rape! :)

    Why shouldn't someone (man or woman) have the right to go about their business without being harassed (sexually or otherwise) by strangers?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 94 ✭✭Carlo Ancelotti


    I dunno OP
    If you look at situations where men are let loose, without fear of law or consequence, ( for example in war), then rape of women is common in such situations. Up to 2 million women were raped by Soviet troops during ww2 when given free reign


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭josephryan1989


    RayM wrote: »
    One man's 'bit of craic' is another man's 'being an obnoxious arsehole'.

    Life must be boring for you being so nice and respectful. :D


  • Posts: 21,740 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think Tom Meager is a man absolutely destroyed with grief. All I can add here is give the man a break. Let him do what it is he feels he needs to do. If it gives him a tiny bit of comfort then so be it.

    Rest in Peace Jill x


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    Life must be boring for you being so nice and respectful. :D

    I'll ask you again... Why shouldn't someone (man or woman) have the right to go about their business without being harassed (sexually or otherwise) by strangers?


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