Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 (*EVERYONE READ MOD POST in OP)

Harry Palmr · 11-10-2015 10:22AM

JohnDaniels wrote: »

The idea that someone would think Lovren is a better defender than Sakho is completely mental but you know . . . .

That's a judgement about a players ability/style not value in the marketplace.

T-K-O · 11-10-2015 10:22AM

JohnDaniels wrote: »

The idea that someone would think Lovren is a better defender than Sakho is completely mental but you know . . . .

Didn't sahko fall over himself ala lovern. If it was vs Everton it was the game before.

Lovern got a chance and we stuck with him, probably 2 games too long.

The problem with all our CBs is that none of them are pulling up tress.

To pretend that guys started games when Franco Baresi is sitting on the bench is pure and utter nonsense

Royal Legend · 11-10-2015 10:25AM

garra wrote: »

Everyone keeps banging on about Can being the business but I have seen little to confirm this myself. Poor in possession and liable to lose concentration any moment, every time I,'ve watched him. Good character and the odd swashbuckling run is not enough for me.

Perhaps Porto will take back markovic in part payment for Neves. He was developing nicely there.

Above sentence sums up Gerrard for most of his career as well you know

JohnDaniels · 11-10-2015 10:25AM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

That's a judgement about a players ability/style not value in the marketplace.

You think Rodgers knew value in the market place? Do you want to go through the signings we know he pushed heavily.

brevity · 11-10-2015 10:40AM

Any players that are available have been called into Melwood for training apparently. Klopp wasting no time.

JohnDaniels · 11-10-2015 10:43AM

This is an excellent piece by Andy Heaton.

JÜRGEN KLOPP AND A FRACTURED FANBASE

Time to embrace the madness. Together.

monkey9 · 11-10-2015 10:48AM

JohnDaniels wrote: »

You think Rodgers knew value in the market place? Do you want to go through the signings we know he pushed heavily.

But this makes the claim even more absurd. If Rodgers is happy enough to pay 24 odd million for Dejan Lovern, there's not a hope he thought Luis Suarez wasn't worth as much as 40 million, especially when you see Bale go for 80m. Rodgers isn't some gormless idiot.

As has been said already, we don't know what context the claim was made. Maybe he thought nobody, not even Suarez, should be worth that much money.

OwaynOTT · 11-10-2015 10:50AM

I dunno about this Klopp chap lads, we haven't won a game since he's came in.

JohnDaniels · 11-10-2015 10:59AM

monkey9 wrote: »

But this makes the claim even more absurd. If Rodgers is happy enough to pay 24 odd million for Dejan Lovern, there's not a hope he thought Luis Suarez wasn't worth as much as 40 million, especially when you see Bale go for 80m. Rodgers isn't some gormless idiot.

As has been said already, we don't know what context the claim was made. Maybe he thought nobody, not even Suarez, should be worth that much money.

I'm not sure how paying 24m for Lovren means anything towards what he thought Suarez was worth. He didn't obviously think Sakho was worth 18m. He tried to shove Henderson out in a deal to sign Dempsey. His concept of players values isn't something that seems based on any tangible ideas. If you were to look at Rodgers transfer record in detail, I am just talking about transfers and the deals he did and didn't want to do, I would say you would find a very good argument to describe him as a gormless idiot in the transfer market.

It feels stupid to be raking over all this given we have our dream appointment and everyone is buzzing. As a previous poster said, who really cares now? I am fully on board with the sentiment expressed in the Heaton article above. Lets move forward together and embrace the coming madness, start looking forward with hope and leave the past where it belongs. (Ahh, isn't that beautiful

)

JohnDaniels · 11-10-2015 11:09AM

brevity wrote: »

Any players that are available have been called into Melwood for training apparently. Klopp wasting no time.

Klopp left Anfield later on Friday to head straight to Melwood, Liverpool’s training ground, for the first time. His plan was to study 17 first-team matches over the weekend, on DVD, plus take in as many academy and under-age games as he could before calling his first training session on Monday, which will include senior first-team players Daniel Sturridge, Lucas Leiva, Alberto Moreno and Philippe Coutinho, who are not on international duty. It is straight down to work before the first match at Tottenham next Saturday. Hard work.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/11924301/Jurgen-Klopp-asks-for-patience-to-be-successful-at-Liverpool.html

Royal Legend · 11-10-2015 11:10AM

Theres a post over in the politics thread

Russian boots on the ground in Syria. Another Afghanistan?

Could not help thinking,

Klopp boots on the ground in Anfield. Another Istanbul?

BorneTobyWilde · 11-10-2015 11:13AM

Under Rodgers our pressing game was phased out, and I can imagine the players had an input into that decision. Under Klopp it won't be a request or an option, Benteke will press. If he can run towards the goal with the ball at his feet to try and score then he can run towards a player who has the ball.
There is no excuse for any player to say '' I can't do that, I can't press. My legs fail to function without the possibility of some glory at then end of it for me''

marklazarcovic · 11-10-2015 11:24AM

fair to say brendan wont be talking to journalists or sunday supplement anytime soon, you'd think he was after retiring or something,long career ahead ..silly move by sunday sup

not yet · 11-10-2015 11:25AM

OwaynOTT wrote: »

I dunno about this Klopp chap lads, we haven't won a game since he's came in.

Give it time, he'll come god good..

T-K-O · 11-10-2015 11:27AM

not yet wrote: »

Give it time, he'll come god good..

It's you isn't it...the guy who makes those images with Rodgers / shankly / paisley

citytillidie · 11-10-2015 11:42AM

marklazarcovic wrote: »

fair to say brendan wont be talking to journalists or sunday supplement anytime soon, you'd think he was after retiring or something,long career ahead ..silly move by sunday sup

Sure that's just the sun of tv dunno why anyone watches it

Buford T. Justice XIX · 11-10-2015 11:46AM

T-K-O wrote: »

Ilori should replace our CB based on one maybe two under 21 games. I like the look of the kid but that is nonsense.

For every decent epl centre half there are two dozen guys impressing at under 21 level.

Big difference between epl/senior football and the rest

Jaysus, I never said he should be starting straight away, just that he deserved a chance in cup/EL games where there is strong rotation used by us. A player with acknowledged potential being loaned with an option to buy for a relatively low sum when we don't have a whole load of class ahead of him in the playing roster seems premature to me.

cj maxx · 11-10-2015 11:52AM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Anyone watching The Sunday Supplement they just let a few things out about what Rodgers said off the record.

Rodgers at the time didn't think Suarez was worth the £40m Arsenal offered.

They then had a fight about letting the public know Rodgers said this and other things off the record.

I never heard of that programme , when ( giessing sun morn) snd what channel ?

T-K-O · 11-10-2015 11:53AM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Jaysus, I never said he should be starting straight away, just that he deserved a chance in cup/EL games where there is strong rotation used by us. A player with acknowledged potential being loaned with an option to buy for a relatively low sum when we don't have a whole load of class ahead of him in the playing roster seems premature to me.

Personally , I'd play stronger teams in all cups but I see where you're coming from. We have too many CBs, we should have loaned him in the summer or let Kolo off and promote ilori

T-K-O · 11-10-2015 11:56AM

cjmc wrote: »

I never heard of that programme , when ( giessing sun morn) snd what channel ?

Sky, journos sit around the breakfast table and pretend to be naom chomskey for an hour

cj maxx · 11-10-2015 11:58AM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Jaysus, I never said he should be starting straight away, just that he deserved a chance in cup/EL games where there is strong rotation used by us. A player with acknowledged potential being loaned with an option to buy for a relatively low sum when we don't have a whole load of class ahead of him in the playing roster seems premature to me.

+1
Make more sense than selling to villa without giving him a chance
If he is sh1t in competitive game by all mesns bite the hand of villa

jesus_thats_gre · 11-10-2015 12:11PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Operation Trash "Bodgers" is underway! The idea that anyone would think Suarez was not worth 40m is just crazy unless he thought it was due to his bitey habit.

The who cares applies to both views. Who ****ing knows and who ****ing cares.

He is gone now and appears to have been replaced by someone more capable so let't all move on.

Kerrigooney · 11-10-2015 12:18PM

JohnDaniels wrote: »

Also the idea that 'operation trash Rodgers' has begun I find incredibly funny. He has enjoyed the easiest ride ever of an outgoing manager. Compare it to what AVB or Rafa enjoyed towards the end and exit of their tenure. Someone of the vitriolic pieces about Rafa that got published are hard to believe when you read them back now. Rodgers is getting a cakewalk in comparison and I wouldn't say it is for the lack of a story or skeleton in his closet.

That's why he said it has "begun". Who knows how it'll play out in the next few weeks. Today might just be the beginning...he might be torn apart in the coming days and weeks.

Also...Why the **** does Rafa have to be brought into every single bloody conversation on here?

Gbear · 11-10-2015 12:18PM

T-K-O wrote: »

Sky, journos sit around the breakfast table and pretend to be naom chomskey for an hour

It's painful ****e, from the sort of luminaries you'd expect to write for tabloid sports sections.

Agent Coulson · 11-10-2015 12:19PM

His sons know everything about Liverpool.

. My two sons, who are crazy about football, they are happy. They watched a game here when Nuri Sahin played [for Liverpool, on loan from Dortmund] against Manchester United [September 2012]. They know everything about Liverpool. It is a good feeling for me.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/11924301/Jurgen-Klopp-asks-for-patience-to-be-successful-at-Liverpool.html

Kerrigooney · 11-10-2015 12:53PM

Quiet in here today....bed for an hour or two,methinks.

adaminho · 11-10-2015 01:01PM

OwaynOTT wrote: »

I dunno about love this Klopp chap lads, we haven't won lost a game since he's came in.

fyp

J Mysterio · 11-10-2015 01:10PM

Klopp 'top 10 celebrations' :pac:

OwaynOTT · 11-10-2015 01:10PM

T-K-O wrote: »

It's you isn't it...the guy who makes those images with Rodgers / shankly / paisley

No that's me.

Charlie19 · 11-10-2015 01:13PM

Rodgers and Martinez are on BT1 now doing an interview, I'd say it was shot in the build up to the Derby.

This will not interest many.

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