Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 (*EVERYONE READ MOD POST in OP)

Hangballlouie · 08-10-2015 08:39AM

Dickerty wrote: »

I have the song. It's a certainty - to the tune of "Feeling Hot Hot Hot!"

Jurgen Klopp-Klopp-Klopp!
Ole ole...ole ole
Ole ole...ole ole
Jurgen Klopp-Klopp-Klopp!

I'm on board with this.

sabat · 08-10-2015 08:44AM

Kloppers Delight

I said a Klip Klopp,
Klippie to the Klippie,
The Klip, Klip a Klopp, and you don't stop, a rock it
To the bang bang boogie, say, up jump the boogie,
To the rhythm of the boogie, the beat.

SlickRic · 08-10-2015 08:44AM

~Rebel~ wrote: »

I'm sure you know exactly the point he was making.

Having some top class players is just step one to competing for the title. You then need to set everything up to wring every drop out of that talent, and everyone around them.

The way you talk about it, you'd swear that City didn't have Silva, Yaya Toure, Kompany and Aguero etc, that Chelsea didn't have Hazard, Oscar, Matic, Terry etc, that Utd didn't have De Gea, Mata, Vidic, Rooney, Van Persie etc.

All our competitors had undeniably better squads and first 11's. Having one player better than theirs doesn't give you a title challenge - it takes all your assets being utilized in the best way possible.

I think it's especially telling that we had a consistent improvement from when he joined until the end of season 2 - that comes down to working on finding the best ways for your players to compliment each other.

it's just blind ignorance to look at the passing and movement of our players and not recognize the work of the manager - Henderson, Coutinho, Sturridge, Suarez, Sterling - their interplay didn't come from one guy being really good, it came from a ****load of work on the training ground. One guy doesn't pass his way through a team, cutting them open. A team working in unison does.

Rodgers built the perfect machine with the parts available at the time, and yeah, when the biggest cog left, he couldn't make the machine work anymore. But that doesn't remove the credit he should get for making that first machine.

You've always been ludicrously harsh on him, and frankly I don't understand it.

Quoted because it's superb.

It's ok to have wanted Rodgers gone and still recognise he played a big role in getting the 13/14 team to function.

Connavar · 08-10-2015 08:44AM

Dickerty wrote: »

I have the song. It's a certainty - to the tune of "Feeling Hot Hot Hot!"

Jurgen Klopp-Klopp-Klopp!
Ole ole...ole ole
Ole ole...ole ole
Jurgen Klopp-Klopp-Klopp!

Already coutinho's tune

Grayditch · 08-10-2015 08:47AM

So apparently Klopp was interested in signing Benteke and Firminho at Dortmund. If they were committee signings, then maybe there's been contact with Klopp in the summer. Shneaky contact. Maybe Rodgers got wind of this, which resulted in a lack of focus on his part.

And maybe, just maybe...

they're all lizard people.

not yet · 08-10-2015 08:47AM

Boom_Bap wrote: »

I was listening to German radio (Radio Eins)this morning and it was saying something about Klopp and the airport and Liverpool.
If only my German was a bit better I'd have the full picture. I was asking my son to translate for me as he's fluent, but the git was too busy eating his porridge to pay me any attention.

Ich bin ein Berliner..

There ya go.

Could some stick up a pic of Or new super duper looper manager next to Micky fassbender, they are like twins..

On a side note, I think the ladies are going to wet themselves with Jurgen, probably or best looking manager ever.

Hello Sailor...

Agent Coulson · 08-10-2015 08:49AM

#KloppfortheKop

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x43r0 · 08-10-2015 08:49AM

not yet · 08-10-2015 08:50AM

Dickerty wrote: »

I have the song. It's a certainty - to the tune of "Feeling Hot Hot Hot!"

Jurgen Klopp-Klopp-Klopp!
Ole ole...ole ole
Ole ole...ole ole
Jurgen Klopp-Klopp-Klopp!

That's the one right there..

monkey9 · 08-10-2015 08:52AM

Dickerty wrote: »

I have the song. It's a certainty - to the tune of "Feeling Hot Hot Hot!"

Jurgen Klopp-Klopp-Klopp!
Ole ole...ole ole
Ole ole...ole ole
Jurgen Klopp-Klopp-Klopp!

That song is now in our heads all day. And I'm ok with that.

Harry Palmr · 08-10-2015 08:53AM

Grayditch wrote: »

So apparently Klopp was interested in signing Benteke and Firminho at Dortmund. If they were committee signings, then maybe there's been contact with Klopp in the summer. Shneaky contact. Maybe Rodgers got wind of this, which resulted in a lack of focus on his part.

And maybe, just maybe...

they're all lizard people.

The good news is that as you say Dortmund were interested in couple of attacking players at Liverpool, he already saw Ings up close at the Everton game (yes he was there), saw Sturridge close up during that 4-0 drubbing in the pre-season last year, knows Can a bit anyway, will be perfectly aware of Coutinho. He'll have the players not on duty this week to have a few discussions and training sessions with so it shouldn't be too bad for preparation against Spurs.

K-9 · 08-10-2015 08:53AM

Knex. wrote: »

Tomkins with an interesting pice. He defends the use of statistics in the game, but the main relevancy is perhaps him shedding even more light on Rodgers and the Transfer Committee.

It really does seem that if Rodgers had full control over transfers, we'd be in a poor state. Alternatively, if he had less control and stuck primarily to coaching the players, he'd nearly still have a job.

http://tomkinstimes.com/2015/10/liverpool-need-to-stay-out-of-the-dark-ages/

All fair enough, it really was a terrible piece of journalism but I doubt Mario was a Rodgers choice, seemed more a Hobson's choice after his preferred picks were gone.

Can't find the piece now but Sturrdge, Benteke, Ings, Origi, Firmino, Henderson, Coutinho and Ibe, should give him good options in attacking and pressing straight away. Plus if players tire we should have options on the bench. Oh, Lalana as well. Klopp apparently watched loads of videos of us, particularly City last year.

At our best we do press well, Arsenal first half this season when we really should have had 3 or 4 by half time.

Knex* · 08-10-2015 08:54AM

On a serious note on the Klopp songs...

All we need is Klopp.

Jurgen, Jurgen, Jurgen.

All we need is Klopp, Klopp, Klopp. All we need is Klopp.

Dickerty · 08-10-2015 08:55AM

Knex. wrote: »

Tomkins with an interesting pice. He defends the use of statistics in the game, but the main relevancy is perhaps him shedding even more light on Rodgers and the Transfer Committee.

It really does seem that if Rodgers had full control over transfers, we'd be in a poor state. Alternatively, if he had less control and stuck primarily to coaching the players, he'd nearly still have a job.

http://tomkinstimes.com/2015/10/liverpool-need-to-stay-out-of-the-dark-ages/

That's a great read. For someone that really backed Rodgers, he pretty much takes him apart there as someone who can spot a player. Lovren, Lallana, Borini and Allen all his picks, while Edwards/committee came up with Coutinho, Sturridge, Henderson and Firmino. Any outsider would say that removing Rodgers from that equation makes us less likely to sign expensive duds now.

Having said that, I think that Lallana, Allen and Lovren could all blossom under Klopp. Get them back focused on what their strengths are. Lallana is a good example of someone who should do well under that pressure system high up the pitch. He has good energy and two good feet, so winning the ball up there requires players who can transition from defense to attack quickly, like him, Firmino and Countinho, capable of a killer ball without complex build up. Even Milner to some extent, his energy will be crucial.

K-9 · 08-10-2015 09:00AM

Grayditch wrote: »

So apparently Klopp was interested in signing Benteke and Firminho at Dortmund. If they were committee signings, then maybe there's been contact with Klopp in the summer. Shneaky contact. Maybe Rodgers got wind of this, which resulted in a lack of focus on his part.

And maybe, just maybe...

they're all lizard people.

Piece I was reading in the mirror or express suggested Klopp may even have recommended Firmino. Seems far fetched but maybe the committee asked for opinions on him as part of their research.

Harry Palmr · 08-10-2015 09:04AM

I thought we all knew how bad a judge Rodgers was by now! The only good bunch he seems to have wanted were this summer - Clyne, Ings, Milner, Benteke (obviously I'll have to change my views of the last one as Dortmund wanted him in 2013!)

citytillidie · 08-10-2015 09:06AM

Saying nothing until he is there holding up a Liverpool scarf

Francie Barrett · 08-10-2015 09:06AM

Knex. wrote: »

Tomkins with an interesting pice. He defends the use of statistics in the game, but the main relevancy is perhaps him shedding even more light on Rodgers and the Transfer Committee.

It really does seem that if Rodgers had full control over transfers, we'd be in a poor state. Alternatively, if he had less control and stuck primarily to coaching the players, he'd nearly still have a job.

http://tomkinstimes.com/2015/10/liverpool-need-to-stay-out-of-the-dark-ages/

I said only it yesterday - it's very convenient to blame Rodgers for all the sh1te transfers and give credit to the committee for the good ones.

Tipsy McSwagger · 08-10-2015 09:11AM

citytillidie wrote: »

Saying nothing until he is there holding up a Liverpool scarf

Whoever is the first to post a photo of Klopp doing this will be a hero on here.

K-9 · 08-10-2015 09:11AM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I thought we all knew how bad a judge Rodgers was by now! The only good bunch he seems to have wanted were this summer - Clyne, Ings, Milner, Benteke (obviously I'll have to change my views of the last one as Dortmund wanted him in 2013!)

I suppose he had to get some right eventually.

Mr.H · 08-10-2015 09:18AM

So I was on the Sky Sports Liverpool manager hunt live thread (on their website)

One entry was titled "fight to keep Coutinho"

It was a brief from an article in the Mirror (I think........... a red top regardless), which says that Man City are ready to swoop for Coutinho as a replacement for Silva at the end of the season and 50 Million could be the starting point.

Now its a red top so its easy to see this is boll1x.

BUT what do you guys think? Would ye sell Coutinho?

For 50 Million I have to say I would be tempted. He hasnt done nearly enough to justify his hype. Dont get me wrong I think with better quality around him he would be seen a lot better but right now in a rebuild we could do with an extra 50 million for the Klopp empire. We have so many players who can play number 10 that losing Coutinho wouldnt exactly hurt us (because I dont think he is involved in enough goals right now that we would be impacted).

So would you sell him and how much would we be happy to get for him?

Harry Palmr · 08-10-2015 09:20AM

Mr.H wrote: »

So I was on the Sky Sports Liverpool manager hunt live thread (on their website)

One entry was titled "fight to keep Coutinho"

It was a brief from an article in the Mirror (I think........... a red top regardless), which says that Man City are ready to swoop for Coutinho as a replacement for Silva at the end of the season and 50 Million could be the starting point.

Now its a red top so its easy to see this is boll1x.

BUT what do you guys think? Would ye sell Coutinho?

For 50 Million I have to say I would be tempted. He hasnt done nearly enough to justify his hype. Dont get me wrong I think with better quality around him he would be seen a lot better but right now in a rebuild we could do with an extra 50 million for the Klopp empire. We have so many players who can play number 10 that losing Coutinho wouldnt exactly hurt us (because I dont think he is involved in enough goals right now that we would be impacted).

So would you sell him and how much would we be happy to get for him?

Whatever Herr Klopp wants is fine by me. If Coutinho was sent off on loan to Accrington Stanley I would be able to see the sense in that.

Knex* · 08-10-2015 09:20AM

Mr.H wrote: »

So I was on the Sky Sports Liverpool manager hunt live thread (on their website)

One entry was titled "fight to keep Coutinho"

It was a brief from an article in the Mirror (I think........... a red top regardless), which says that Man City are ready to swoop for Coutinho as a replacement for Silva at the end of the season and 50 Million could be the starting point.

Now its a red top so its easy to see this is boll1x.

BUT what do you guys think? Would ye sell Coutinho?

For 50 Million I have to say I would be tempted. He hasnt done nearly enough to justify his hype. Dont get me wrong I think with better quality around him he would be seen a lot better but right now in a rebuild we could do with an extra 50 million for the Klopp empire. We have so many players who can play number 10 that losing Coutinho wouldnt exactly hurt us (because I dont think he is involved in enough goals right now that we would be impacted).

So would you sell him and how much would we be happy to get for him?

No. I don't want to constantly sell our best players, especially to league rivals.

Boom_Bap · 08-10-2015 09:20AM

Mr.H wrote: »

So I was on the Sky Sports Liverpool manager hunt live thread (on their website)

One entry was titled "fight to keep Coutinho"

It was a brief from an article in the Mirror (I think........... a red top regardless), which says that Man City are ready to swoop for Coutinho as a replacement for Silva at the end of the season and 50 Million could be the starting point.

Now its a red top so its easy to see this is boll1x.

BUT what do you guys think? Would ye sell Coutinho?

For 50 Million I have to say I would be tempted. He hasnt done nearly enough to justify his hype. Dont get me wrong I think with better quality around him he would be seen a lot better but right now in a rebuild we could do with an extra 50 million for the Klopp empire. We have so many players who can play number 10 that losing Coutinho wouldnt exactly hurt us (because I dont think he is involved in enough goals right now that we would be impacted).

So would you sell him and how much would we be happy to get for him?

Sell Coutinho? Madness.

But....I do kind of think that Firmino was brought in as his replacement.

monkey9 · 08-10-2015 09:23AM

Francie Barrett wrote: »

I said only it yesterday - it's very convenient to blame Rodgers for all the sh1te transfers and give credit to the committee for the good ones.

It's like blaming him for the bad times yet praising the players for the good times.

monkey9 · 08-10-2015 09:25AM

When Coutinho is sold, it will be to foreign climes.

Hangballlouie · 08-10-2015 09:26AM

This needs to be number one by this Sunday. Get on to iTunes lads and ladies.

Harry Palmr · 08-10-2015 09:33AM

Hangball Doughboy wrote: »

This needs to be number one by this Sunday. Get on to iTunes lads and ladies.

I got about 45 seconds into that then realised I was starting to have thoughts of self harming.

Mr.H · 08-10-2015 09:33AM

It will be interesting to see if Klopp sets the team up in the same vein as his Dortmund side or if he will try to play to what he see's as our strengths.

I do believe we have a good side. At the risk of the fury from the pro-Rodgers camp (which I am part of) I suggest that maybe our team was under coached, especially in defence. It always seemed like they didnt know what to do when they lost the ball.

Was reading another piece yesterday about the staff Klopp would be looking at bringing in;

His assistant Buvac (who manages some fake international side)
The video analyst guy (no idea what his name is
His keeper coach from Dortmund (although is still at Dortmund for now)
Beck (his fitness coach)

Then they talked about other possibles such as

Hamann (who has his badges and knows Klopp well)
Fowler (who threw his own name into the ring)
Sami..............................

Now of course again this is speculation but could you imagine Sami coming back to help our defence................ Yes please

Mr.H · 08-10-2015 09:35AM

Hangball Doughboy wrote: »

This needs to be number one by this Sunday. Get on to iTunes lads and ladies.

We need an english version

I was going around singing the only words I knew yesterday

I wanna be like Jurgen Klopp, Jurgen Klopp, Jurgen Klopp
I wanna be like Jurgen Klopp, Jurgen Klopp, Jurgen Klopp

Maybe this is what we can sing on the KOP :rolleyes:

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