Motors Chat - Round 9

Toyotafanboi · 06-10-2015 09:07PM

Autosport wrote: »

You can buy mine when I trade it in tis a powerful Daysul

Didn't know there was such a thing :pac:

colm_mcm · 06-10-2015 09:07PM

Snotaul Goodman wrote: »

Arrived in Exeter half an hour ago after one long ass delay on the M4. On the go since 6:30 this morning. Drove into the hotel car park to be greeted with these Straight to the bar afterwards.

Boring question, but what sort of mpg is the 2.2 doing?

CIP4 · 06-10-2015 09:09PM

Just noticed over the last while the lack of 1.4tsi 150bhp mk7 golfs is shocking basically none sold here it's a case of buying a 1.2tsi or buying a diesel. It's a pity as the newer 1.4tsi is suppose to be a great engine and a few k euro cheaper to buy than the diesel. Christ it's going to be a hard place to get newish decent petrols for the next good few years.

I'm sure most cars are the same as the golf too. Although a lot have sh!tty small low bhp petrols that you wouldn't want anyway. I'd imagine the 1.2tsi in a mk7 golf would be sluggish enough.

Supergurrier · 06-10-2015 09:20PM

CIP4 wrote: »

Just noticed over the last while the lack of 1.4tsi 150bhp mk7 golfs is shocking basically none sold here it's a case of buying a 1.2tsi or buying a diesel. It's a pity as the newer 1.4tsi is suppose to be a great engine and a few k euro cheaper to buy than the diesel. Christ it's going to be a hard place to get newish decent petrols for the next good few years.

I'm sure most cars are the same as the golf too. Although a lot have sh!tty small low bhp petrols that you wouldn't want anyway. I'd imagine the 1.2tsi in a mk7 golf would be sluggish enough.

Great excuse to buy a bimmer

quadrifoglio verde · 06-10-2015 09:25PM

CIP4 wrote: »

Just noticed over the last while the lack of 1.4tsi 150bhp mk7 golfs is shocking basically none sold here it's a case of buying a 1.2tsi or buying a diesel. It's a pity as the newer 1.4tsi is suppose to be a great engine and a few k euro cheaper to buy than the diesel. Christ it's going to be a hard place to get newish decent petrols for the next good few years.

I'm sure most cars are the same as the golf too. Although a lot have sh!tty small low bhp petrols that you wouldn't want anyway. I'd imagine the 1.2tsi in a mk7 golf would be sluggish enough.

Noticed that myself, today I saw one of those stolen cars Ireland thing with a year old golf with a 1.6 tdi child poisoner
It had done just over 4000km in the year. There was someone who certainly didn't need a diesel but the sheep will jump on it in a few years time when it'll be a diesel with 12k km on it. The last thing I'd want is pay a premium for a diesel that's only done city driving

Autosport · 06-10-2015 09:25PM

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Didn't know there was such a thing :pac:

What?? Me trading in my car

CIP4 · 06-10-2015 09:34PM

quadrifoglio verde wrote: »

Noticed that myself, today I saw one of those stolen cars Ireland thing with a year old golf with a 1.6 tdi child poisoner
It had done just over 4000km in the year. There was someone who certainly didn't need a diesel but the sheep will jump on it in a few years time when it'll be a diesel with 12k km on it. The last thing I'd want is pay a premium for a diesel that's only done city driving

I'm still doing a reasonable amount of driving myself but once I start working next summer it will be a 50km a day commute even with weekend driving I probably won't break 400km's most weeks. So I think I will try to move to a petrol next well it will be early 2017 before I change anyway so way ahead of myself but it was just something I noticed he lack of newer petrols. Plus I kind of want something 140-150 bhp too I don't think I'll be doing the sub 100bhp again sick of having cars that have just adequate power not that it's easy to get anything else even in newer diesels never mind petrols.

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Do a search on donedeal for VW Scirroco's nearly all of them are diesels

Ye I seen that alright same with the Jetta and no doubt the Passat.

colm_mcm · 06-10-2015 09:35PM

CIP4 wrote: »

Just noticed over the last while the lack of 1.4tsi 150bhp mk7 golfs is shocking basically none sold here it's a case of buying a 1.2tsi or buying a diesel. It's a pity as the newer 1.4tsi is suppose to be a great engine and a few k euro cheaper to buy than the diesel. Christ it's going to be a hard place to get newish decent petrols for the next good few years.

I'm sure most cars are the same as the golf too. Although a lot have sh!tty small low bhp petrols that you wouldn't want anyway. I'd imagine the 1.2tsi in a mk7 golf would be sluggish enough.

If you're buying on pcp (which I suspect many are) the gmfv on the petrol will be lower and you'll pay more per month.
If you're throwing it back after 3 years, who cares if there may be trouble ahead?

CIP4 · 06-10-2015 09:45PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

If you're buying on pcp (which I suspect many are) the gmfv on the petrol will be lower and you'll pay more per month.
If you're throwing it back after 3 years, who cares if there may be trouble ahead?

I know that comes into it alright. As well as garages pushing diesels on everyone that walks in the door. There will be some amount of three year old low mileage diesels for sale in the next year or two which is not necessarily a good thing.

5W30 · 06-10-2015 09:50PM

CIP4 wrote: »

I know that comes into it alright. As well as garages pushing diesels on everyone that walks in the door. There will be some amount of three year old low mileage diesels for sale in the next year or two which is not necessarily a good thing.

Surprisingly I found it's the opposite. I was in a Ford dealership getting my spare key programmed while I overheard a sales person speaking to a buyer.

The buyer was looking for a diesel Focus but I heard the sales person mentioning that based on the mileage they cover they'd be better off with an Ecoboost petrol.

Maybe it's only Ford that does it because they're trying to promote the Ecoboost engines but still, I was impressed.

Autosport · 06-10-2015 09:50PM

CIP4 wrote: »

I know that comes into it alright. As well as garages pushing diesels on everyone that walks in the door. There will be some amount of three year old low mileage diesels for sale in the next year or two which is not necessarily a good thing.

No my mileage is always above average

I've reached over 5000kms already

colm_mcm · 06-10-2015 10:08PM

5W30 wrote: »

Surprisingly I found it's the opposite. I was in a Ford dealership getting my spare key programmed while I overheard a sales person speaking to a buyer.

The buyer was looking for a diesel Focus but I heard the sales person mentioning that based on the mileage they cover they'd be better off with an Ecoboost petrol.

Maybe it's only Ford that does it because they're trying to promote the Ecoboost engines but still, I was impressed.

I'd say it depends on whether it's a repeat customer or not, or whether it's cash/pcp.

CIP4 · 06-10-2015 10:08PM

5W30 wrote: »

Surprisingly I found it's the opposite. I was in a Ford dealership getting my spare key programmed while I overheard a sales person speaking to a buyer.

The buyer was looking for a diesel Focus but I heard the sales person mentioning that based on the mileage they cover they'd be better off with an Ecoboost petrol.

Maybe it's only Ford that does it because they're trying to promote the Ecoboost engines but still, I was impressed.

Good chance he happened to have an ecoboost in stock that he thought he could flog then. Any salesman I've ever met does two things suits themselves as much as possible and tells you whatever they think you want to hear to the extreme. Some of the bull**** I've been told from salesmen with them thinking I know nothing about cars then I wait and catch them out on the stuff.

5W30 · 06-10-2015 10:09PM

CIP4 wrote: »

Good chance he happened to have an ecoboost in stock that he thought he could flog then. Any salesman I've ever met does two things suits themselves as much as possible and tells you whatever they think you want to hear to the extreme. Some of the bull**** I've been told from salesmen with them thinking I know nothing about cars then I wait and catch them out on the stuff.

Like any other salesman then :pac:

9/10 used car salesmen will say the car they are selling was "owned by their mate" :pac:

colm_mcm · 06-10-2015 10:13PM

If you're in the market for a mondeo, your only petrol option is the 1.5 ecoboost for +/- €35k

CIP4 · 06-10-2015 10:19PM

5W30 wrote: »

Like any other salesman then :pac:

9/10 used car salesmen will say the car they are selling was "owned by their mate" :pac:

I mean a salesman told me that a 2 foot scratch would polish out of this car I was looking at. I said would there not need to be paint left for it to polish out yes it was that deep :pac:

Another time test drove a car he said what do you think. I said a it was grand other than it talking about 60 seconds for the low oil pressure light to go off. He just said ah we will fix that. How defuk do you fix that without rebuilding the engine sure that just shows worn engine seals meaning it takes a long time for the oil pump to build adequate oil pressure in the engine which it's not good when an engine is running with that light on. The only quick fix to that would be possibly putting thicker oil in the engine which wouldn't be fixing the problem at all.

Noccy_Mondy · 06-10-2015 10:20PM

Haven't seen too much of me around here this past few days, haven't had time to do anything!!

CIP4 wrote: »

Just noticed over the last while the lack of 1.4tsi 150bhp mk7 golfs is shocking basically none sold here it's a case of buying a 1.2tsi or buying a diesel. It's a pity as the newer 1.4tsi is suppose to be a great engine and a few k euro cheaper to buy than the diesel. Christ it's going to be a hard place to get newish decent petrols for the next good few years.

I'm sure most cars are the same as the golf too. Although a lot have sh!tty small low bhp petrols that you wouldn't want anyway. I'd imagine the 1.2tsi in a mk7 golf would be sluggish enough.

Yar, I noticed the same, half tempted to go 50/50 with the next car, as in one petrol, one diesel. Like the idea of the mk6 1.4 gt spec, but they are basically non existent! Even in the uk they aren't that plentiful. The cheaper price is appealing though.

CIP4 · 06-10-2015 10:41PM

Noccy_Mondy wrote: »

Yar, I noticed the same, half tempted to go 50/50 with the next car, as in one petrol, one diesel. Like the idea of the mk6 1.4 gt spec, but they are basically non existent! Even in the uk they aren't that plentiful. The cheaper price is appealing though.

Basically with me I'm kind of this cycle where I have a completely different idea each they on what I want and it kind of goes around in a cycle.

Day 1: keep the Megane for 3 years plus it's a good car and ultimately the cheapest option leaving you loads of money to spend elsewhere and not have tied up in cars.

Day 2: buy a mk6 golf in 2017 good mixture between getting newish car and not huge money but would still cost a huge amount with the Megane.

Day 3: fcuk this secondhand car bullish!t come 2017 buy a brand new 150bhp 1.4tsi golf highline you only live once and you might as well do it now while you have fcuk all else to spend your wages on and no wife, mortgage or kids.

Day 4: new car are you crazy 25k euro on something that someone is going to bash up and make sh!t of every time you park it anywhere what you want is a late mk5 golf that you have fcuk all money tied up in and can mess around with and simply replace whenever you want too.

Day 5: some complete random car dream varies weekly.

Repeat to day one.

Noccy_Mondy · 06-10-2015 10:44PM

CIP4 wrote: »

Basically with me I'm kind of this cycle where I have a completely different idea each they on what I want and it kind of goes around in a cycle.

Day 1: keep the Megane for 3 years plus it's a good car and ultimately the cheapest option leaving you loads of money to spend elsewhere and not have tied up in cars.

Day 2: buy a mk6 golf in 2017 good mixture between getting newish car and not huge money but would still cost a huge amount with the Megane.

Day 3: fcuk this secondhand car bullish!t come 2017 buy a brand new 150bhp 1.4tsi golf highline you only live once and you might as well do it now while you have fcuk all else to spend your wages on and no wife, mortgage or kids.

Day 4: new car are you crazy 25k euro on something that someone is going to bash up and make sh!t of every time you park it anywhere what you want is a late mk5 golf that you have fcuk all money tied up in and can mess around with and simply replace whenever you want too.

Day 5: some complete random car dream varies weekly.

Repeat to day one.

If you have a secure full time, well paying job and have saved up the money, along with no dependents, then I don't see why not to buy new. If I had the money saved up and had a secure income, I'd have a new car without doubt.

CIP4 · 06-10-2015 10:51PM

Noccy_Mondy wrote: »

If you have a secure full time, well paying job and have saved up the money, along with no dependents, then I don't see why not to buy new. If I had the money saved up and had a secure income, I'd have a new car without doubt.

Oh definitely I'm not going to have 25k saved by 2017 though realistically as I'll only be working 6 months. I suppose a good mix would to be hold out an extra year and buy a new car straight up for cash. I've never borrowed for a car up to now. But then are loan repayments a big deal if you have a big enough secure wage that can cover them. I won't imagine I'll be properly secure full time contract till 6 months in so that will leave me till jan 2017 anyway. Which I wouldn't be doing anything till then anyway. Luckily the Megane is running perfectly statue moment I could fault it from that point of view anyway long may it last.

mhackett102 · 06-10-2015 10:51PM

CIP4 wrote: »

Basically with me I'm kind of this cycle where I have a completely different idea each they on what I want and it kind of goes around in a cycle.

Day 1: keep the Megane for 3 years plus it's a good car and ultimately the cheapest option leaving you loads of money to spend elsewhere and not have tied up in cars.

Day 2: buy a mk6 golf in 2017 good mixture between getting newish car and not huge money but would still cost a huge amount with the Megane.

Day 3: fcuk this secondhand car bullish!t come 2017 buy a brand new 150bhp 1.4tsi golf highline you only live once and you might as well do it now while you have fcuk all else to spend your wages on and no wife, mortgage or kids.

Day 4: new car are you crazy 25k euro on something that someone is going to bash up and make sh!t of every time you park it anywhere what you want is a late mk5 golf that you have fcuk all money tied up in and can mess around with and simply replace whenever you want too.

Day 5: some complete random car dream varies weekly.

Repeat to day one.

I think we have a lot in common

I put the Corolla on donedeal and had to take it down after 24 hours, I was inoutdated with calls! But I think I might keep it for longer and just do a few bits to it to make it look a bit different to a standard Corolla around the place

Autosport · 06-10-2015 10:54PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

I'd say it depends on whether it's a repeat customer or not, or whether it's cash/pcp.

I don't think the cash/pcp matters as when I was buying mine they said it was purely up to me as it didn't make a difference to the garage if I paid cash or pcp as I either pay the garage or pay the pcp to the bank and the bank pay the garage.

colm_mcm · 06-10-2015 10:59PM

If you're selling based on a monthly price though. You could theoretically hold on to more margin on the car and still get lower payments.

Obviously in some cars petrol is much cheaper in the first place.

CIP4 · 06-10-2015 11:03PM

mhackett102 wrote: »

I think we have a lot in common I put the Corolla on donedeal and had to take it down after 24 hours, I was inoutdated with calls! But I think I might keep it for longer and just do a few bits to it to make it look a bit different to a standard Corolla around the place

Ye definitely. I don't think I'd necessarily get rid of my Megane now even if I had the options. It has its strengths and weakness. I still think they are an under rated car just not as good as a golf but then that's the class leader anyway.

Anyway at least the car thoughts help take my mind if how much stuff I have to do for college between, projects, exams, assignments joys of final year I suppose. Your kind of so near the end but there not letting you leave without a fight.

colm_mcm · 06-10-2015 11:05PM

mhackett102 wrote: »

I think we have a lot in common I put the Corolla on donedeal and had to take it down after 24 hours, I was inoutdated with calls! But I think I might keep it for longer and just do a few bits to it to make it look a bit different to a standard Corolla around the place

Wait a week, and add a grand to the asking price. See what happens.

Autosport · 06-10-2015 11:08PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

If you're selling based on a monthly price though. You could theoretically hold on to more margin on the car and still get lower payments.

Obviously in some cars petrol is much cheaper in the first place.

The garage I dealt with didn't have any petrol cars/vans or 4x4s as they don't sell as I wanted to test drive both but I am in diesel territory anyway.

colm_mcm · 06-10-2015 11:17PM

Autosport wrote: »

The garage I dealt with didn't have any petrol cars/vans or 4x4s as they don't sell as I wanted to test drive both but I am in diesel territory anyway.

v40 sales this year are 98:2 in favour of diesel.

Noccy_Mondy · 06-10-2015 11:43PM

I want!

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201507245465029?fuel-type=petrol&make=volkswagen&maximum-age=up_to_6_years_old&keywords=gt&page=1&search-target=usedcars&body-type=hatchback&model=golf&radius=1500&sort=default&transmission=manual&postcode=ln12na&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&logcode=p

That seems to be the lower end of the scale, 09 ones go up to nearly 8k pounds! That said, the mileage is around 40k miles. Am I right in saying vrt wouldn't be as heavy on a 1.4 tsi as opposed to a 1.9tdi?

06-10-2015 11:51PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

Boring question, but what sort of mpg is the 2.2 doing?

I'll give you a few examples. Ive been driving it alot over the last fortnight.

My trip from west Limerick to Dublin last week averaged about 52mpg with fairly relaxed driving. My brother drove from west Limerick to Waterford on a full tank yesterday and it cost €9 for a top up, so whatever that works out in mpg (can't remember the price per litre) plus he drove like a snail through that unreal fog last night.

Today, I drove Pembroke to Exeter and averaged 47mpg with an extremely heavy right foot in glorious weather for most of the trip. Held up for an hour or so of stop/starting on the M4 at no more than 5mph so that contributed to the poor mpg. Christ that was painful!

So we reckon she's averaging about 50mpg on a good day.

Noccy_Mondy · 07-10-2015 01:14AM

Is it just me or is the number of brain dead slobs on the rise around here?

A few awful stupid threads this past few days.

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