Galway GAA discussion thread

Hammer Archer · 19-09-2015 08:06PM

O.A.P wrote: »

That's makes two then

Ah christ I'm a gobsh!te.

03-10-2015 10:04PM

WTF is this. I'll admit I have huge doubts that Cunningham is the right man to get us over the line but for me as much as Cunningham the players have to stand up to their responsibilities. Our 2nd half capitulation to Kilkenny was pathetic. That can in some way be put down to poor tactics where we lost our shape as we often have when the **** hit the fan under Cunningham but the players have to take their share of the responsibility.

Like the Mayo footballers we have players who once again this year fell asunder on the big stage when there was an All-Ireland there to be won being big men ousting the manager behind his back. If they had an issue get it resolved before he was ratified again. I'd love to know who they have in mind for the job because the likes of Eamonn O'Shea, Anthony Daly etc. have never beaten Kilkenny when it mattered either.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/hurling/2015/1003/732248-cunninghams-galway-future-in-doubt/

03-10-2015 10:04PM

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Baggy Trousers · 03-10-2015 10:07PM

I imagine the players feel Cunningham is too slow to act effectively on the sideline when things are going wrong.

Diabhal Beag · 03-10-2015 10:09PM

Funds aren't really there for a manager outside the county by the sound of things (especially during the Kevin Walsh appointment). Didn't think this was a horrible year myself but if the players aren't happy, similar to our cousins past Headford, you can't risk losing them. Is Cunningham going to go without a fight? I doubt it.

03-10-2015 10:19PM

Baggy Trousers wrote: »

I imagine the players feel Cunningham is too slow to act effectively on the sideline when things are going wrong.

I'd agree with that but the way they have gone about this is completely spineless. After all the time and effort Cunningham has put in over the years the players have handled this terribly.

If we had the players who consistently stood up to the challenge over the years and just needed a more astute manager to get us over the line fair enough but where were these lads the day of the final or when we were outscored 2-10-0-1 in the last 20 minutes against Tipp or in the first half against Clare in 2013 when there was a winnable All-Ireland on offer, 2013 Leinster final against Dublin we collapsed in a pathetic heap, 2012 All-Ireland final gave an off colour Kilkenny side a 2nd shot and collapsed again. If the players showed some backbone on the pitch to match this stabbing in the back I'd cut them some slack.

T0001 · 03-10-2015 10:26PM

So apparently some of the Galway hurlers are raised concerns about management

shenanagans · 03-10-2015 10:32PM

He's had 4 years and hasn't delivered. If he had any sense he'd step aside. Tactics in second half of all ireland were a joke, he should have gone immediately.

farawaygrass · 03-10-2015 10:37PM

Is says-"the panel nominated 4 players". Does this mean every player on the panel are united against Cunningham?

farawaygrass · 03-10-2015 10:38PM

Is says-"the panel nominated 4 players". Does this mean every player on the panel are united against Cunningham?

farawaygrass · 03-10-2015 10:38PM

Is says-"the panel nominated 4 players". Does this mean every player on the panel are united against Cunningham?

I said · 03-10-2015 11:23PM

Is this more of the ****e that went on in 2013 when some of the squad weren't talking to each other

I said · 03-10-2015 11:24PM

Is this more of the ****e that went on in 2013 when some of the squad weren't talking to each other

threeball · 03-10-2015 11:40PM

Its no wonder that Galway hurlers and Mayo footballers are always compared to one another. Rarely deliver when it matters. There's always somebody else to blame. Thrash all the weaker teams and win glorious semis only to waste all the effort in the final hurdle.

If they spent less time bitchin and moaning and more on adding a bit more progress and cohesion to the following year they'd be better off. It wasn't Cunningham that kept banging balls down on top of a dominant KK half back line for 35mins straight and it wasn't Cunningham that decided that all 6 forwards should stay within 5 paces from one another for the entire second half. Rabbits in headlights came to mind. Granted Cunningham was poor on the line but no manager could overcome the stupidity displayed in that second half.

Mountainlad · 04-10-2015 11:22AM

I don't understand why the players aren't consulted before these decisions are made. Theyve been put in this position by the County Board. You wouldn't know what the underlying circumstances were, whether it was unanimous or instigated by influential members of the board but the players should be consulted before automatically renewing a term.

This now puts a lot of pressure on them next year when it could have been avoided. Ive no doubt Cunningham has given his all and have sympathy, but you could have a hurler who gives every inch of his being for the County for 4 years and then gets dropped and there won't be any violins played. At the end of the day, collectively the players commit more and if they aren't happy after four years (its not like hes only in the door) then that should be taken very seriously.

blue note · 06-10-2015 06:17PM

Is there another Galway forum where people are talking about the hurling management situation? I'm curious to read a few opinions of Galway people about it.

From an outsider looking in, this is very surprising. The team that got to the AI in 2012 wasn't great in my opinion, so I was very impressed to see them get to the final in 12 and nearly win it with Cunningham at the helm. Then this year I think there were a couple of really good players added, but still I wouldn't say they're ahead of a couple of other teams in terms of players, so to get to another final I'd say they're doing very well with the talent they have.

However, we in Waterford gave out about our managers over the years and had to listen to outsiders telling us that we should be greatful with how well they're doing with what they had at their disposal. Particularly under Davy Fitz.

So what's the story? Who's right and wrong here and how complicated is it? How is it likely to be resolved? How far are the players likely to take this?

basillarkin · 06-10-2015 06:31PM

blue note wrote: »

Is there another Galway forum where people are talking about the hurling management situation? I'm curious to read a few opinions of Galway people about it.

From an outsider looking in, this is very surprising. The team that got to the AI in 2012 wasn't great in my opinion, so I was very impressed to see them get to the final in 12 and nearly win it with Cunningham at the helm. Then this year I think there were a couple of really good players added, but still I wouldn't say they're ahead of a couple of other teams in terms of players, so to get to another final I'd say they're doing very well with the talent they have.

However, we in Waterford gave out about our managers over the years and had to listen to outsiders telling us that we should be greatful with how well they're doing with what they had at their disposal. Particularly under Davy Fitz.

So what's the story? Who's right and wrong here and how complicated is it? How is it likely to be resolved? How far are the players likely to take this?

By all accounts it's the majority of players that want Cunningham out, if so his position is untenable.

exiled in the kingdom · 06-10-2015 08:07PM

blue note wrote: »

Is there another Galway forum where people are talking about the hurling management situation? I'm curious to read a few opinions of Galway people about it.

From an outsider looking in, this is very surprising. The team that got to the AI in 2012 wasn't great in my opinion, so I was very impressed to see them get to the final in 12 and nearly win it with Cunningham at the helm. Then this year I think there were a couple of really good players added, but still I wouldn't say they're ahead of a couple of other teams in terms of players, so to get to another final I'd say they're doing very well with the talent they have.

However, we in Waterford gave out about our managers over the years and had to listen to outsiders telling us that we should be greatful with how well they're doing with what they had at their disposal. Particularly under Davy Fitz.

So what's the story? Who's right and wrong here and how complicated is it? How is it likely to be resolved? How far are the players likely to take this?

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MfMan · 07-10-2015 10:32AM

blue note wrote: »

Is there another Galway forum where people are talking about the hurling management situation? I'm curious to read a few opinions of Galway people about it.

From an outsider looking in, this is very surprising. The team that got to the AI in 2012 wasn't great in my opinion, so I was very impressed to see them get to the final in 12 and nearly win it with Cunningham at the helm. Then this year I think there were a couple of really good players added, but still I wouldn't say they're ahead of a couple of other teams in terms of players, so to get to another final I'd say they're doing very well with the talent they have.

However, we in Waterford gave out about our managers over the years and had to listen to outsiders telling us that we should be greatful with how well they're doing with what they had at their disposal. Particularly under Davy Fitz.

So what's the story? Who's right and wrong here and how complicated is it? How is it likely to be resolved? How far are the players likely to take this?

You could also say with the numbers they have playing and their record of success at underage and club level, (for me these count, as they propagate a winning mentality), reaching senior finals should be the norm rather than the exception for Galway. Our hurlers are well as skillful as any other counties and the current squad do have a good blend of strength and ability so making the final may not be as big a surprise as thought. Particularly at a time when Cork are in the doldrums, Limerick and Clare rather in stasis, Dublin maybe in decline and Tipp, a bit like Galway, finding it hard to take that final step across the winning line. Only Galway and Waterford (and KK obviously) could really be said to have had progressive years in 2015. A lot will change again next year I'm sure.

As for the current imbroglio, the longer it goes on the more I'm inclined to side with the players. They have been fairly criticised this past week for being mentally weak etc., which may be true enough, but they also showed enough cojones at various times this year to suggest that they're not quite the chokers some may think they are. The current action is not a copy-cat action of the Mayo heave, as they also (supposedly) had a vote of no-confidence in Cunningham after the league. I've never been a great fan of Cunningham as I don't think he's a great 'winner' or good tactically, apparently not a good communicator, and the behind-the-scenes managerial turmoil in 2013 shouldn't have happened on his watch. (He's also one of very few Galway managers not to have made any impact in the NL.) In fairness I don't doubt his passion for the job and with a kinder smile from Lady Luck he may well have won in '12.

A problem for Galway fans at the moment is the lack of information in the public domain, (the players have made no public announcement remember), which leads to unhelpful speculation. I find it surprising though that they were keen for AC to remain on following last year's defeat by Tipp. Now they have changed their minds, which could point to the putsch being led by a small core of senior or disaffected players.

TCDStudent1 · 07-10-2015 08:00PM

MfMan wrote: »

You could also say with the numbers they have playing and their record of success at underage and club level, (for me these count, as they propagate a winning mentality), reaching senior finals should be the norm rather than the exception for Galway. Our hurlers are well as skillful as any other counties and the current squad do have a good blend of strength and ability so making the final may not be as big a surprise as thought. Particularly at a time when Cork are in the doldrums, Limerick and Clare rather in stasis, Dublin maybe in decline and Tipp, a bit like Galway, finding it hard to take that final step across the winning line. Only Galway and Waterford (and KK obviously) could really be said to have had progressive years in 2015. A lot will change again next year I'm sure.

As for the current imbroglio, the longer it goes on the more I'm inclined to side with the players. They have been fairly criticised this past week for being mentally weak etc., which may be true enough, but they also showed enough cojones at various times this year to suggest that they're not quite the chokers some may think they are. The current action is not a copy-cat action of the Mayo heave, as they also (supposedly) had a vote of no-confidence in Cunningham after the league. I've never been a great fan of Cunningham as I don't think he's a great 'winner' or good tactically, apparently not a good communicator, and the behind-the-scenes managerial turmoil in 2013 shouldn't have happened on his watch. (He's also one of very few Galway managers not to have made any impact in the NL.) In fairness I don't doubt his passion for the job and with a kinder smile from Lady Luck he may well have won in '12.

A problem for Galway fans at the moment is the lack of information in the public domain, (the players have made no public announcement remember), which leads to unhelpful speculation. I find it surprising though that they were keen for AC to remain on following last year's defeat by Tipp. Now they have changed their minds, which could point to the putsch being led by a small core of senior or disaffected players.

I feel Galway not competing in a provincial championship does skew that underage record a little bit. And probably affects the development of some of those players. Its something Galway need to absolutely demand. I think its up for discussion by the Leinster Council in November.

otterj · 08-10-2015 09:48AM

Anyone know the 4 players who were named in the Connacht tribune today?

sporter1 · 08-10-2015 01:37PM

Collins, Smyth, Canning, David Burke, 29 players attended a meeting last night, meeting again next week.

Gael85 · 08-10-2015 01:46PM

sporter1 wrote: »

Collins, Smyth, Canning, David Burke, 29 players attended a meeting last night, meeting again next week.

Are David Burke and Anthony Cunningham from the same club St Thomas?

sporter1 · 08-10-2015 02:22PM

Yeah

Hulk Hands · 08-10-2015 02:49PM

We've all likely heard the stories coming from training year on year of Cunningham being clueless, changing to new joke tactics each week, players fed up etc etc. This is all hearsay, but it's been regular coming out of the Galway camp for a long while. If the man on the street hears it, then im sure its being heard by board members also. Last summer was the time to get rid of him if the players were sick of him, especially after the poor show in 2014. Not sure why the players didnt revolt last summer. Perhaps they they think they have higher standing to complain this year after performing well in the summer. The gist of whats going round from the players is "enough is enough" of this, regardless of getting to the final last year.

MfMan · 08-10-2015 04:37PM

Hulk Hands wrote: »

We've all likely heard the stories coming from training year on year of Cunningham being clueless, changing to new joke tactics each week, players fed up etc etc. This is all hearsay, but it's been regular coming out of the Galway camp for a long while. If the man on the street hears it, then im sure its being heard by board members also. Last summer was the time to get rid of him if the players were sick of him, especially after the poor show in 2014. Not sure why the players didnt revolt last summer. Perhaps they they think they have higher standing to complain this year after performing well in the summer. The gist of whats going round from the players is "enough is enough" of this, regardless of getting to the final last year.

Think the players were in favour of him continuing after last year, it was the CB that nearly set him adrift, only for Treacy's casting vote. Maybe the insipid league campaign was the turning point.

savannahkat · 08-10-2015 04:39PM

I told you lot the week before the All Ireland you would be screaming for Cunninhham's head after the game .Your like your team they deserve nothing and you lot deserve less. The players not Cunningham lost the two All Irelands. If they were men they would take the blame just as if they were men they would not have let Kilkenny bully them in the second half. It was the players fault left right and center and they are going to be let get away with it. God help your next real manager trying to manage a team with 30 other managers.

Diabhal Beag · 08-10-2015 05:17PM

You're barely trying there. Sad to see the greats lose their form.

09-10-2015 10:51AM

savannahkat wrote: »

I told you....Your like your team

Well if you told us, then ill tell you.
Only one of those yours is correct... But which one.

Hulk Hands · 09-10-2015 11:02AM

savannahkat wrote: »

I told you lot the week before the All Ireland you would be screaming for Cunninhham's head after the game .Your like your team they deserve nothing and you lot deserve less. The players not Cunningham lost the two All Irelands. If they were men they would take the blame just as if they were men they would not have let Kilkenny bully them in the second half. It was the players fault left right and center and they are going to be let get away with it. God help your next real manager trying to manage a team with 30 other managers.

We deserve less than nothing? For wanting the best for Galway? This coming from a KK fan, when less than 2k of them stayed in Croke Park for the teams lap of honor after winning an All Ireland. Some respect for all the effort and commitment your team put in all year

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