Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 (*EVERYONE READ MOD POST in OP)

Potential Underachiever · 05-10-2015 10:04PM

happyoutscan wrote: »

Klopp would probably man-manage Balotelli better then BR did.

He's not a miracle worker!

mudstack · 05-10-2015 10:07PM

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Way to completely, completely ignore the point.

Rodgers didn't get the best out of the players he had. All of the names you mentioned have played better at other clubs under other managers. Doesn't matter how good or bad you think they are - they have all performed objectively better under other managers, therefore Rodgers didn't get the best out of them.

I addressed the point, you just didn't like the answer. The players you mentioned are crap in my opinion, and the position in the league was right in my opinion. I'm not blinded by hero worshipping, I seen them play.

I've no interest in continuing this.

JohnDaniels · 05-10-2015 10:07PM

Not as much stock put in Paul Joyce in this thread? They have gone into meltdown over on rawk since his article like it is an iron clad done deal.

not yet · 05-10-2015 10:07PM

happyoutscan wrote: »

Klopp would probably man-manage Balotelli better then BR did.

I Don't think Jesus Christ could man manage that loop the loop..

05-10-2015 10:08PM

JohnDaniels wrote: »

Not as much stock put in Paul Joyce in this thread? They have gone into meltdown over on rawk since his article like it is an iron clad done deal.

You can still get 1/4 on Klopp. Far from a done deal yet

Caovyn Lineah · 05-10-2015 10:09PM

happyoutscan wrote: »

Klopp would probably man-manage Balotelli better then BR did.

Mourinho couldn't do it.

Damien360 · 05-10-2015 10:10PM

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

The point of me asking was because I rank the league as priority, if he finishes 5th/6th for a few seasons in a row then IMO no amount of cup runs will save him.

This is a new slant for you. Rodgers could do no wrong at all. He was going to rescue his position at some point according to the unending narrative. Now 5th for a few seasons is a death knell.

On a side note : what happens if we don't get Klopp ?

Mr Alan · 05-10-2015 10:11PM

SlickRic wrote: »

His reign would be met with less trepidation by me because he's a proven winner.

He'd also get more leeway than Rodgers did because he's a proven winner.

It'd be an entirely different appointment to the Rodgers one.

The second sentence is hugely important here

We know his ceiling is awesomeness - this appointment will really unite any fans with a clue.

Hollister11 · 05-10-2015 10:11PM

Seems like klopp is expected to be named manager in the next few days.

Caovyn Lineah · 05-10-2015 10:13PM

Damien360 wrote: »

This is a new slant for you. Rodgers could do no wrong at all. He was going to rescue his position at some point according to the unending narrative. Now 5th for a few seasons is a death knell.

On a side note : what happens if we don't get Klopp ?

I said I believed he could turn it around, I never stated he WOULD.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 05-10-2015 10:14PM

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

He's not a miracle worker!

would still be worth the entettainment!

Caovyn Lineah · 05-10-2015 10:14PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

The second sentence is hugely important here

We know his ceiling is awesomeness - this appointment will really unite any fans with a clue.

Until results go bad(which will happen) and the self entitled fans rear their heads again.

Gbear · 05-10-2015 10:18PM

SlickRic wrote: »

Will he alienate certain players for no discernable reason?

Well this one is a yes.

It is for pretty much every manager.

It's easy to say "look at all this weird **** Rodgers does - I can't wait until he's replaced by someone who doesn't do that".

But they all do it. They've all got weird apparent blind spots.

Nobodie's perfect but, perhaps more importantly, we never have all the information about what's going on in the squad.

So it'll turn out that, despite the whole German thing and his apparent suitability in terms of quality and application, Firmino will get the boot next summer.

We'll go ape**** but we'll never know that he was actually a coke-head or used to boot cats down the road for the craic.

SlickRic · 05-10-2015 10:22PM

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Until results go bad(which will happen) and the self entitled fans rear their heads again.

Patience will not be endless, but we'd know we have a proven winner, so he'd get a little more leeway.

Do you not think that's logical? You've stated the above a few times and it seems you don't.

Streetwalker · 05-10-2015 10:24PM

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Mourinho couldn't do it.

What's that now win a European trophy with Chelsea like Rafa did

Fowler87 · 05-10-2015 10:24PM

Unreal to be so close to getting a manager of this calibre again. This squad needs a manager like Klopp to get them going and imo hes got a good group to start off with. However its still only a pipe dream until we see the ultimate lean!

Vicxas · 05-10-2015 10:24PM

Gbear wrote: »

We'll go ape**** but we'll never know that he was actually a coke-head or used to boot cats down the road for the craic.

****ing lost my **** to this.

Mr Alan · 05-10-2015 10:28PM

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Until results go bad(which will happen) and the self entitled fans rear their heads again.

If we're in our 4th season under him and there's been no trophy and things are going steadily downhill, we should replace him.

However, unless he has a total meltdown he'll have 12-18 months to get the team ticking without decent fans wanting him out.

However, I predict you'll be all over him immediately if results aren't great coming out with **** like "well it was unacceptable for the likes of Llyod and Alan when Rodgers struggled so I'm only applying the same logic" ignoring totally 1) him being brand new to the club having a lot of work to clear out some of the dross and 2) him being a proven winner

Caovyn Lineah · 05-10-2015 10:31PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

If we're in our 4th season under him and there's been no trophy and things are going steadily downhill, we should replace him.

However, unless he has a total meltdown he'll have 12-18 months to get the team ticking without decent fans wanting him out.

However, I predict you'll be all over him immediately if results aren't great coming out with **** like "well it was unacceptable for the likes of Llyod and Alan when Rodgers struggled so I'm only applying the same logic" ignoring totally 1) him being brand new to the club having a lot of work to clear out some of the dross and 2) him being a proven winner

Hahaha, try reading my posts before spouting rubbish.

Potential Underachiever · 05-10-2015 10:32PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

The second sentence is hugely important here

We know his ceiling is awesomeness - this appointment will really unite any fans with a clue.

Mr Alan wrote: »

If we're in our 4th season under him and there's been no trophy and things are going steadily downhill, we should replace him.

However, unless he has a total meltdown he'll have 12-18 months to get the team ticking without decent fans wanting him out.

However, I predict you'll be all over him immediately if results aren't great coming out with **** like "well it was unacceptable for the likes of Llyod and Alan when Rodgers struggled so I'm only applying the same logic" ignoring totally 1) him being brand new to the club having a lot of work to clear out some of the dross and 2) him being a proven winner

You have a low opinion of yourself don't you.

Mr Alan · 05-10-2015 10:34PM

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Hahaha, try reading my posts before spouting rubbish.

I do read your posts - hence how I know exactly the kind of tripe to expect from you

Utopia Parkway · 05-10-2015 10:37PM

JohnDaniels wrote: »

Not as much stock put in Paul Joyce in this thread? They have gone into meltdown over on rawk since his article like it is an iron clad done deal.

Paul Joyce is pretty reliable. Unless a deal was very close I don't think he would be so bullish about it. But deals are never concluded until contracts are signed and delivered.

Agent Coulson · 05-10-2015 10:37PM

Caovyn Lineah · 05-10-2015 10:39PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

I do read your posts - hence how I know exactly the kind of tripe to expect from you

Nope, as a fan i will be fully behind the new manager. Something you just cannot fathom.

Mr Alan · 05-10-2015 10:40PM

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Nope, as a fan i will be fully behind the new manager. Something you just cannot fathom.

Haha sure

Because I wanted Rodgers out I'm a bad fan :rolleyes:

Kerrigooney · 05-10-2015 10:40PM

They're all saying it now. Announcement by the end of the week. Gonna be a long week.

Sir Gallagher · 05-10-2015 10:40PM

Some tulip :pac:

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~Rebel~ · 05-10-2015 10:40PM

mudstack wrote: »

I addressed the point, you just didn't like the answer. The players you mentioned are crap in my opinion, and the position in the league was right in my opinion. I'm not blinded by hero worshipping, I seen them play.

I've no interest in continuing this.

Nope, you didn't address it at all. The point is that many players weren't playing to their potential. How good or bad you think they are is irrelevant, that sample have been objectively worse under Rodgers than other managers. For this point it doesn't matter that their best still isn't good enough, when we haven't seen anything like their best. That's on the manager.

Lovren was a completely different player with Southampton. Lallana was a completely different player with Southampton. Balotelli was much better at every other club he's played at. Markovic was much more impressive with Benfica.

It's really not complicated - get the most out of your players and make them more than the sum of their parts...that clearly didn't happen.

<edit> I don't get the hero worshipping comment...who's getting hero worshipped?

brevity · 05-10-2015 10:41PM

https://twitter.com/AnfieldHQ/status/651149616994381824

It is expected Klopp will head to Merseyside in the next 48 hours for further negotiations - announcement possible by Friday. (Bascombe)

Eeek

Tipsy McSwagger · 05-10-2015 10:41PM

We are Klopptomaniacs:)

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