Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 (*EVERYONE READ MOD POST in OP)

mosstin · 05-10-2015 05:53PM

Mumha wrote: »

The more I look at the Klopp possibility, it's only one good job he's had, versus the wealth of experience Ancelotti has under his belt.

Right, Klopp out. He's done nothing for us.

05-10-2015 05:54PM

Fair play to Rodgers, no bitterness in that statement.

Now, on to the next chapter for LFC

rob316 · 05-10-2015 05:55PM

JohnDaniels wrote: »

Brendan Rodgers statement

Class act Brendan is, hope he gets a new job soon and can build up his reputation. The Liverpool job with all the pressures came too soon for a talented but rookie manager like himself. He will be a better manager from this experience and I wish him all the best.

mosstin · 05-10-2015 05:55PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Fair play to Rodgers, no bitterness in that statement.

Now, on to the next chapter for LFC

Not yet. Apparently there's a mourning period.

Mr Alan · 05-10-2015 06:05PM

Nice statement. Fair play.

Let's hope he doesn't ruin it over the coming weeks by airing dirty laundry in public to keep his name in the papers like our former captain has done this season

martyos121 · 05-10-2015 06:07PM

Ha, he's gone off to Malaga already!

He must've had that holiday booked for weeks!

TitianGerm · 05-10-2015 06:11PM

rob316 wrote: »

Class act Brendan is, hope he gets a new job soon and can build up his reputation. The Liverpool job with all the pressures came too soon for a talented but rookie manager like himself. He will be a better manager from this experience and I wish him all the best.

I think this is bang on. When he joined Liverpool I was willing to give him time. In fairness to him he got the team playing some lovely attacking football and got us our highest league finish in years.

However he has been a bit naïve and maybe the job came to soon for him. He needs to go take a break from the game for a while and rebuild his confidence. I'd like to see him do well in the future and I'll keep an eye on his career going forward.

We as fans now need to all get together behind the new manager and stop all the petty infighting which have plagued the last few threads.

ricero · 05-10-2015 06:12PM

emmetkenny wrote: »

I think this is bang on. When he joined Liverpool I was willing to give him time. In fairness to him he got the team playing some lovely attacking football and got us our highest league finish in years.

However he has been a bit naïve and maybe the job came to soon for him. He needs to go take a break from the game for a while and rebuild his confidence. I'd like to see him do well in the future and I'll keep an eye on his career going forward.

We as fans now need to all get together behind the new manager and stop all the petty infighting which have plagued the last few threads.

Here here. Who ever comes in we all need to pull together and get behind the team and manager

~Rebel~ · 05-10-2015 06:12PM

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Surely a degree of revisionism here? Season 2 somewhat came out of nowhere and it was a few months into the season at that I think.

I remember large swathes of fans, me included, being very dissatisfied even early in Season 2. I remember feeling bloody mystified at times if I am honest.

It was only in the later half of season 2 looked like he nailed it and a lot of fans openly admitted to being wrong about him.

I think there was quite a gradual and consistent improvement from when he came in until the end of season 2 to be honest. Poor first half of season 1. Then hitting around 1.85 ppg in the second half. Bettered that slightly, hitting around/close to 2ppg in the first half of season 2. Then powered on to a ridiculous second half of season 2.

The first half of season 2 of course doesn't compare to the majesty of when everything clicked in the latter half - but we had still done enough to be top of the league on christmas day.

ush · 05-10-2015 06:16PM

BR's statement - "The club showed great character."

Muahahaha · 05-10-2015 06:19PM

5 games into the Klopp regime and we're in 2nd place. We really can't complain, especially with that Ings hat trick away to Chelsea. Things are really looking up now IMO.

x43r0 · 05-10-2015 06:23PM

That Eastenders video Harry put up in the humour thread is the best thing I've seen in ages

Potential Underachiever · 05-10-2015 06:27PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

If Klopp or Ancelotti get the job will they be asking the captain or Coutinho or Firmino to text a player to see if he would like to join the club I wonder.

Give over ffs, you've got your wish, he's gone, do you really need to keep sticking the boot in with these snide digs, you should be happy and yet you still seem bitter.

Grayditch · 05-10-2015 06:29PM

J Mysterio wrote: »

I listened to half of that podcast. Pretty rubbish really. I can't really believe lads pay to listen to these chaps.

Had to stop 20 mins in, myself. Were two of them gee-eyed? Nice one, though Luckycharms, appreciate it.

dobsdave · 05-10-2015 06:31PM

Former Germany midfielder Stefan Effenberg believes his compatriot and good friend is suited to taking the Liverpool job.

“He gave me this answer a couple of weeks ago. He said: ‘I’m ready for a team that’s not on the highest level, to create something, to build something up’. This could be Liverpool, right?” he told BBC World Service Sport.

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2015/10/klopp-tells-effenberg-liverpool-is-one-of-the-greatest-atmospheres-its-pretty-much-the-same-as-dortmund/

garra · 05-10-2015 06:31PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

An auld lad like wouldn't be hip to those kind of things.

The young ones still use hip don't they.

I used to be with it but then they changed what it was. Now what I’m with isn’t it, and what’s it seems weird and scary to me, and it’ll happen to you too! Grandpa Simpson

Ferris_Bueller · 05-10-2015 06:33PM

Best of luck to Rodgers, I lost faith in him after the 6-1 defeat to Stoke but he isn't a bad manager and his time at Liverpool wasn't a total failure. We're definitely in a better position now than when he took over and we had one of the most exciting seasons in recent times in 13/14. He has received a bit of criticism over the past few weeks but I think that is inevitable in football management when things aren't going well, now that he is gone I hope that people can appreciate his efforts over the past 3 years.

It is extremely exciting that Klopp could be taking over. I didn't think we would entice him this early into his year off but he would be a great appointment and there would be a real sense of excitement around the club if he takes over. A lot of the players will have a point to prove and there is healthy competition for a lot of places in the starting eleven.

Magico Gonzalez · 05-10-2015 06:35PM

Ah he gave us a great year, gave us hope and let us dream. Unfortunately the wheels come off pretty quickly. I hope he'll always be welcome at Anfield like any former manager bar Hodgson.

Some of the vitriol against says less about him and more about the people it comes from.

SlickRic · 05-10-2015 06:35PM

dobsdave wrote: »

Former Germany midfielder Stefan Effenberg believes his compatriot and good friend is suited to taking the Liverpool job.

“He gave me this answer a couple of weeks ago. He said: ‘I’m ready for a team that’s not on the highest level, to create something, to build something up’. This could be Liverpool, right?” he told BBC World Service Sport.

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2015/10/klopp-tells-effenberg-liverpool-is-one-of-the-greatest-atmospheres-its-pretty-much-the-same-as-dortmund/

fúcking Effenberg.

you're making me believe.

05-10-2015 06:39PM

A week seems like a long time to wait to appoint a manager/make an announcement, especially at a time when Chelsea could be entering the market for a new manager too.

I've seen some Liverpool fans opine here and elsewhere that sacking Rodgers just puts Liverpool in the same bracket as Man City and Chelsea in terms of getting rid of a manager because he wasn't winning the league. I'm not a Pool fan, but the difference between Liverpool and those teams is night and day. Chelsea sacked managers for 'only' coming 2nd in the league. Liverpool have persevered with Rodgers and have given him every chance to get the form of 13/14 back. They have given him capital to spend in the last few transfer windows, they have given him 8 games into a new season to see if last season's failures were just a glitch. There is nothing else Liverpool FC could have done really to give the man every chance to get things going again.

The time was past right for him to go. As a United fan, I'm of course 'in grief', but looking at it objectively, with each game he remained in charge he took the club further away from their goals. I can't deny that if I was a Liverpool fan, I would have wanted him gone by the end of last season. Yes, it's good that he's gone early in the season and there's technically still time and games to get your season back on track, but the incoming manager has a mountain to climb considering Liverpool's upcoming run of fixtures.

Klopp will be a good match for Liverpool, surely he is that incoming manager. Btw, I rated Klopp highly when some of us were hoping to get him at United post-Moyes, and I still rate him highly now that Liverpool are going to get him. I will be happy to see the man in the P.L., but am sad to see him go to Liverpool cause 1) He will make you better, and 2) He will probably never manage Manchester United now. Cherish him if you get him!

Grayditch · 05-10-2015 06:41PM

He's... a United fan, but he's not a dick.

He must be on an "E".

Mumha · 05-10-2015 06:42PM

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

The Mainz achievements mean little, it sounds like the sort of thing Martinez, Rodgers and handful of other up & comings have achieved.

Right now Klopp's success if focused around a short period of time, but he hit much higher targets than Rodgers ever did. Winning the league twice and a serious CL challenges. The risk with success at the upper echelons of the game in short spurts is that the possibility that it was achieved by the players more so than the manager. What you want to see is consistency in those achievements.

Klopp is a gamble, he is culturally a good fit, his achievements are impressive but he would be coming to Liverpool to cement those achievements.

I like him, but I still prefer Ancelotti as he does not fail. It's a risk based decision for me, if we gamble and lose now we risk going off a cliff and really losing touch with the CL spots long term. Klopp is a gamble, if he comes I will be 100% behind him from day one, but I will say now before he comes that I think Ancelotti is a safer bet. Not likely to play quite as exciting football, but he would be such a solid appointment and I don't think we'll ever get a chance to get a manager in with that kind of CV again. Shame to miss out.

Look at it!...(am sure the spanish translation is fairly simple).

TROFEOS
Nacionales de clubes
Primera División Subcampeón 1x 2014/2015
Premier League Campeón 1x 2009/2010
Serie A Campeón 1x 2003/2004
Subcampeón 3x 2004/2005, 1999/2000, 1996/1997
Liga 1 Campeón 1x 2012/2013
Subcampeón 1x 2011/2012
Copa FA Campeón 1x 2009/2010
Copa del Rey Campeón 1x 2013/2014
Super Copa Subcampeón 1x 2014/2015
Community Shield Campeón 1x 2009/2010
Subcampeón 1x 2010/2011
Coppa Italia Campeón 1x 2002/2003
Super Copa Campeón 1x 2004/2005
Subcampeón 1x 2003/2004
Internacionales de clubes
UEFA Liga de Campeones Campeón 3x 2013/2014, 2006/2007, 2002/2003
Subcampeón 1x 2004/2005
UEFA Super Copa Campeón 3x 2014/2015, 2007/2008, 2003/2004
Campeonato Mundial de Clubes Campeón 2x 2014 Morocco, 2007 Japan
Copa Intercontinental Subcampeón 1x 2003
International Champions Cup Campeón 1x 2013

3 time Champs league winner, one time runner up. Premier league, La Liga, Serie A? Yep. Won them. All of them. Countless runner up achievements too.

Exactly. I'm surprised there's little/no debate about it actually.

martyos121 · 05-10-2015 06:48PM

stankratz wrote: »

A week seems like a long time to wait to appoint a manager/make an announcement, especially at a time when Chelsea could be entering the market for a new manager too.

I've seen some Liverpool fans opine here and elsewhere that sacking Rodgers just puts Liverpool in the same bracket as Man City and Chelsea in terms of getting rid of a manager because he wasn't winning the league. I'm not a Pool fan, but the difference between Liverpool and those teams is night and day. Chelsea sacked managers for 'only' coming 2nd in the league. Liverpool have persevered with Rodgers and have given him every chance to get the form of 13/14 back. They have given him capital to spend in the last few transfer windows, they have given him 8 games into a new season to see if last season's failures were just a glitch. There is nothing else Liverpool FC could have done really to give the man every chance to get things going again.

The time was past right for him to go. As a United fan, I'm of course 'in grief', but looking at it objectively, with each game he remained in charge he took the club further away from their goals. I can't deny that if I was a Liverpool fan, I would have wanted him gone by the end of last season. Yes, it's good that he's gone early in the season and there's technically still time and games to get your season back on track, but the incoming manager has a mountain to climb considering Liverpool's upcoming run of fixtures.

Klopp will be a good match for Liverpool, surely he is that incoming manager. Btw, I rated Klopp highly when some of us were hoping to get him at United post-Moyes, and I still rate him highly now that Liverpool are going to get him. I will be happy to see the man in the P.L., but am sad to see him go to Liverpool cause 1) He will make you better, and 2) He will probably never manage Manchester United now. Cherish him if you get him!

It's just not the same without all the sly digs. I'd expect more from a United fan in our thread.

Only joking of course

MightyMandarin · 05-10-2015 06:49PM

ush wrote: »

BR's statement - "The club showed great character."

Oh, look... a character joke....

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Now that he's gone, I do really hope they stop as they're just not funny, and haven't been for a long time.

LuckyLloyd · 05-10-2015 06:51PM

J Mysterio wrote: »

I listened to half of that podcast. Pretty rubbish really. I can't really believe lads pay to listen to these chaps.

I actually enjoyed it. Bunch of fans, some articulate and reasoned and some less so. Interesting chat though.

Magico Gonzalez · 05-10-2015 06:53PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I actually enjoyed it. Bunch of fans, some articulate and reasoned and some less so. Interesting chat though.

It's great that people take the time to make these podcasts, I'd rate it as useful as the average sports chat in the pub. Interesting enough without much serious analysis, that people would pay for it completely dumbfounds me.

5starpool · 05-10-2015 06:55PM

I saw all the stuff earlier about Gary Mac and Sean O'Driscoll having been let go by the club as well, but they are still listed on the club website as being employed by the club, whereas Rodgers is gone. I expect a new manager will want their own people in, but it seems they haven't left yet anyhow. Will there be training pics tomorrow for those not on international duty?

Knex* · 05-10-2015 06:56PM

Yeah, I listened to it on my way home from work. Enjoyed it too.

I'm not looking for them to tell me anything groundbreaking, or go off on MNF type analysis. Just listening to some emotional fans, of different viewpoints, talk about what is some pretty major news.

Nice hearing them talk about 13/14, if even just to evoke my own memories.

jebidiah · 05-10-2015 06:56PM

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

It's great that people take the time to make these podcasts, I'd rate it as useful as the average sports chat in the pub. Interesting enough without much serious analysis, that people would pay for it completely dumbfounds me.

For the obsessive fan, though I really like their show, The Rider. Great music show

JohnDaniels · 05-10-2015 07:01PM

In fairness they were all pissed on the TAW podcast last night. They were in the pub when the news broke. It was a reactionary podcast from a bunch of emotional people. If you want a little more considered chat around the news the latest podcast is up and free.

http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2015/10/podcast-the-man-after-the-man/

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