Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 (*EVERYONE READ MOD POST in OP)

ardinn · 05-10-2015 05:03PM

Does Klopp just batter people???

Francie Barrett · 05-10-2015 05:03PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

He is waiting for the Arsenal job.

Frank de Boer: I'm Not in the Running for the Liverpool Job

http://www.90min.com/posts/2618065-frank-de-boer-i-m-not-in-the-running-for-the-liverpool-job?a_aid=35396

Good.

Francie Barrett · 05-10-2015 05:04PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Cnyari/status/651033944771661824

He'd cut Joe Allen in half with a schlap like that :pac:

MightyMandarin · 05-10-2015 05:06PM

Cartman78 wrote: »

What were Klopp's Dortmund like defensively?

Any chance he could stop us conceding shyte goals every week?

Not with Lovren anyway..

Agent Coulson · 05-10-2015 05:07PM

Now I understand why Joe Allen was growing the beard it was to mirror Klopp.

Mumha · 05-10-2015 05:14PM

The more I look at the Klopp possibility, it's only one good job he's had, versus the wealth of experience Ancelotti has under his belt.

Jesus Wept · 05-10-2015 05:15PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

If Klopp or Ancelotti get the job will they be asking the captain or Coutinho or Firmino to text a player to see if he would like to join the club I wonder.

It'd have to be whatsapp, snapchat or yo these days. Don't want to come off silly.

delw · 05-10-2015 05:15PM

Dick Advocaat,he will sort us out

Agent Coulson · 05-10-2015 05:17PM

Je suis Mario wrote: »

It'd have to be whatsapp, snapchat or yo these days. Don't want to come off silly.

An auld lad like wouldn't be hip to those kind of things.

The young ones still use hip don't they.

Agent Coulson · 05-10-2015 05:20PM

Mumha wrote: »

The more I look at the Klopp possibility, it's only one good job he's had, versus the wealth of experience Ancelotti has under his belt.

He took Mainz into the Bundesliga for the first time in there history and got them into the UEFA Cup.

Now he also got them relegated as well before he left for Dortmund.

jpboard1 · 05-10-2015 05:21PM

Mumha wrote: »

The more I look at the Klopp possibility, it's only one good job he's had, versus the wealth of experience Ancelotti has under his belt.

What was the one good job?

Agent Coulson · 05-10-2015 05:31PM

Which Dortmund player would everyone like to see Klopp bring with him to Liverpool if he gets the job.

Gundogan for me.

Magico Gonzalez · 05-10-2015 05:31PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

He took Mainz into the Bundesliga for the first time in there history and got them into the UEFA Cup.

Now hew also got them relegated as well before he left for Dortmund.

The Mainz achievements mean little, it sounds like the sort of thing Martinez, Rodgers and handful of other up & comings have achieved.

Right now Klopp's success if focused around a short period of time, but he hit much higher targets than Rodgers ever did. Winning the league twice and a serious CL challenges. The risk with success at the upper echelons of the game in short spurts is that the possibility that it was achieved by the players more so than the manager. What you want to see is consistency in those achievements.

Klopp is a gamble, he is culturally a good fit, his achievements are impressive but he would be coming to Liverpool to cement those achievements.

I like him, but I still prefer Ancelotti as he does not fail. It's a risk based decision for me, if we gamble and lose now we risk going off a cliff and really losing touch with the CL spots long term. Klopp is a gamble, if he comes I will be 100% behind him from day one, but I will say now before he comes that I think Ancelotti is a safer bet. Not likely to play quite as exciting football, but he would be such a solid appointment and I don't think we'll ever get a chance to get a manager in with that kind of CV again. Shame to miss out.

Look at it!...(am sure the spanish translation is fairly simple).

TROFEOS
Nacionales de clubes
Primera División Subcampeón 1x 2014/2015
Premier League Campeón 1x 2009/2010
Serie A Campeón 1x 2003/2004
Subcampeón 3x 2004/2005, 1999/2000, 1996/1997
Liga 1 Campeón 1x 2012/2013
Subcampeón 1x 2011/2012
Copa FA Campeón 1x 2009/2010
Copa del Rey Campeón 1x 2013/2014
Super Copa Subcampeón 1x 2014/2015
Community Shield Campeón 1x 2009/2010
Subcampeón 1x 2010/2011
Coppa Italia Campeón 1x 2002/2003
Super Copa Campeón 1x 2004/2005
Subcampeón 1x 2003/2004
Internacionales de clubes
UEFA Liga de Campeones Campeón 3x 2013/2014, 2006/2007, 2002/2003
Subcampeón 1x 2004/2005
UEFA Super Copa Campeón 3x 2014/2015, 2007/2008, 2003/2004
Campeonato Mundial de Clubes Campeón 2x 2014 Morocco, 2007 Japan
Copa Intercontinental Subcampeón 1x 2003
International Champions Cup Campeón 1x 2013

3 time Champs league winner, one time runner up. Premier league, La Liga, Serie A? Yep. Won them. All of them. Countless runner up achievements too.

Magico Gonzalez · 05-10-2015 05:32PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Which Dortmund player would everyone like to see Klopp bring with him to Liverpool if he gets the job.

Gundogan for me.

What i really hope for is BR to get a PL job and "raid" Liverpool for the likes of Joe Allen, Lovren and Lallana.

MightyMandarin · 05-10-2015 05:35PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Which Dortmund player would everyone like to see Klopp bring with him to Liverpool if he gets the job.

Gundogan for me.

Has to be Hummels.

Whatever about scoring goals with Reus or Aubameyang, or some midfield maestro like Gundogan, a proper CB is what we're craving. Our concession rate is unacceptable.

martyos121 · 05-10-2015 05:35PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Which Dortmund player would everyone like to see Klopp bring with him to Liverpool if he gets the job.

Gundogan for me.

Apart from Reus which is a given obviously, I'd take Sokratis Papastathopoulos.

Not only is he a great defender, his name just rolls off a Scouser's tongue. It would sound like they swallowed a beehive.

Agent Coulson · 05-10-2015 05:36PM

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

What i really hope for is BR to get a PL job and "raid" Liverpool for the likes of Joe Allen, Lovren and Lallana.

Rogers will go to manage on the continent with his next job I would guess.

I think Allen and Lallana could do well under Klopp if they could stay fit.

Lovren will be stuck with us till his contract runs down and he leaves on a free no club will pay money for him.

Hangballlouie · 05-10-2015 05:36PM

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

What i really hope for is BR to get a PL job and "raid" Liverpool for the likes of Joe Allen, Lovren and Lallana.

I think Koeman will move on at end of season and Rodgers would be a good fit there; he can bring those lads home.

jpboard1 · 05-10-2015 05:37PM

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

The Mainz achievements mean little, it sounds like the sort of thing Martinez, Rodgers and handful of other up & comings have achieved.

Right now Klopp's success if focused around a short period of time, but he hit much higher targets than Rodgers ever did. Winning the league twice and a serious CL challenges. The risk with success at the upper echelons of the game in short spurts is that the possibility that it was achieved by the players more so than the manager. What you want to see is consistency in those achievements.

Klopp is a gamble, he is culturally a good fit, his achievements are impressive but he would be coming to Liverpool to cement those achievements.

I like him, but I still prefer Ancelotti as he does not fail. It's a risk based decision for me, if we gamble and lose now we risk going off a cliff and really losing touch with the CL spots long term. Klopp is a gamble, if he comes I will be 100% behind him from day one, but I will say now before he comes that I think Ancelotti is a safer bet. Not likely to play quite as exciting football, but he would be such a solid appointment and I don't think we'll ever get a chance to get a manager in with that kind of CV again. Shame to miss out.

Look at it!...(am sure the spanish translation is fairly simple).

TROFEOS
Nacionales de clubes
Primera División Subcampeón 1x 2014/2015
Premier League Campeón 1x 2009/2010
Serie A Campeón 1x 2003/2004
Subcampeón 3x 2004/2005, 1999/2000, 1996/1997
Liga 1 Campeón 1x 2012/2013
Subcampeón 1x 2011/2012
Copa FA Campeón 1x 2009/2010
Copa del Rey Campeón 1x 2013/2014
Super Copa Subcampeón 1x 2014/2015
Community Shield Campeón 1x 2009/2010
Subcampeón 1x 2010/2011
Coppa Italia Campeón 1x 2002/2003
Super Copa Campeón 1x 2004/2005
Subcampeón 1x 2003/2004
Internacionales de clubes
UEFA Liga de Campeones Campeón 3x 2013/2014, 2006/2007, 2002/2003
Subcampeón 1x 2004/2005
UEFA Super Copa Campeón 3x 2014/2015, 2007/2008, 2003/2004
Campeonato Mundial de Clubes Campeón 2x 2014 Morocco, 2007 Japan
Copa Intercontinental Subcampeón 1x 2003
International Champions Cup Campeón 1x 2013

3 time Champs league winner, one time runner up. Premier league, La Liga, Serie A? Yep. Won them. All of them. Countless runner up achievements too.

Would it be right that he has only won 3 league titles?

Harry Palmr · 05-10-2015 05:37PM

Ancelotti is a cheque book manager ultimately

martyos121 · 05-10-2015 05:38PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Rogers will go to manage on the continent with his next job I would guess.

I think Allen and Lallana could do well under Klopp if they could stay fit.

Lovren will be stuck with us till his contract runs down and he leaves on a free no club will pay money for him.

Being a bit too hard on Lovren tbf. He's had some immense performances for us (not many obviously), he's just been badly mismanaged IMO. Rodgers didn't understand his strengths.

Magico Gonzalez · 05-10-2015 05:38PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Rogers will go to manage on the continent with his next job I would guess.

I think Allen and Lallana could do well under Klopp if they could stay fit.

Lovren will be stuck with us till his contract runs down and he leaves on a free no club will pay money for him.

I can see Rodgers in the MLS in future, not now, but some years down the line. He speaks the mad corporate motivational nonsense that they like over there. He was completely breeze the interview process. Made for it.

Agent Coulson · 05-10-2015 05:41PM

Jose only had one good job before he moved to Chelsea his didn't win anything at the two previous clubs he managed before Porto.

whatawaster81 · 05-10-2015 05:46PM

Ancelotti is 65, he'd only be a short term fix. Klopp could have years at it.

martyos121 · 05-10-2015 05:47PM

whatawaster81 wrote: »

Ancelotti is 65, he'd only be a short term fix. Klopp could have years at it.

Eh, he's only 56?

Pyjamarama · 05-10-2015 05:48PM

I might have to stop even coming on here to read this thread for a bit, every time i've logged on in the last 12 hours i've left angry.

the joy that some posters have that it hasn't worked out is mind blowing. Its should be a sad day but for some its just pure joy and another chance to take shots at a man who gave us the most memorable season in 20 years. More memorable than 05 imo and easily so (tho no moment matched the joy of the final obv). You can say it was Suarez who did it all but it wasn't, we won games when he was not on insane form (tho that was rare) and games when he didn't even play. The manager let the team go out and just express themselves in a way i've never seen from another team week in week out. The bravery that that takes is to be applauded. It went against everything that he had believed you were required to do to win games at the time but he did it. And it was a joy to behold.

And now you have fans posting gifs of how happy they are that he's gone. I agree that the time had come for him to go but it shouldn't be celebrated. He's gone now so nobody needs to worry about him "dragging the club further down" or anything like that so surely we as fans of the club should be a) looking forward to a new future under hopefully an accomplished new manager and b) remembering all those match threads like the spurs one where we lost our minds when Jonno belted in that screamer, when Suarez destroyed Norwich on his own, even when Mignolet made that peno save on day one to set us up for a season of thrills which we hadn't had in a long time.

martyos121 · 05-10-2015 05:48PM

The Rodgers has spoken! More to follow

whatawaster81 · 05-10-2015 05:49PM

martyos121 wrote: »

Eh, he's only 56?

True, my bad, still think he'll be around longer.

JohnDaniels · 05-10-2015 05:49PM

Brendan Rodgers statement

niallo27 · 05-10-2015 05:52PM

Pyjamarama wrote: »

I might have to stop even coming on here to read this thread for a bit, every time i've logged on in the last 12 hours i've left angry.

the joy that some posters have that it hasn't worked out is mind blowing. Its should be a sad day but for some its just pure joy and another chance to take shots at a man who gave us the most memorable season in 20 years. More memorable than 05 imo and easily so (tho no moment matched the joy of the final obv). You can say it was Suarez who did it all but it wasn't, we won games when he was not on insane form (tho that was rare) and games when he didn't even play. The manager let the team go out and just express themselves in a way i've never seen from another team week in week out. The bravery that that takes is to be applauded. It went against everything that he had believed you were required to do to win games at the time but he did it. And it was a joy to behold.

And now you have fans posting gifs of how happy they are that he's gone. I agree that the time had come for him to go but it shouldn't be celebrated. He's gone now so nobody needs to worry about him "dragging the club further down" or anything like that so surely we as fans of the club should be a) looking forward to a new future under hopefully an accomplished new manager and b) remembering all those match threads like the spurs one where we lost our minds when Jonno belted in that screamer, when Suarez destroyed Norwich on his own, even when Mignolet made that peno save on day one to set us up for a season of thrills which we hadn't had in a long time.

It hasn't been too bad but I do think he deserves a lot more respect than he is getting.

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