Animal rights group forcefully take dog off homeless man

04-10-2015 02:20PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Didn't a group of animal rights activists set 'free' thousands of mink a few years ago, causing untold damage to the local ecosystem?

Just a few months ago in Dublin retards 'liberated' lobsters from a tank in a restaurant and set them free in Clontarf Bay where they promptly died.

You don't need to go as far as France to find idiots like that. There's no shortage of them here and they don't have a brain cell between them.

Yep. One of the larger mink cases was close to me. Typical of these animal rights freaks knowing absolutely nothing about the animals they claim to care about and having no thoughts for the potential scale of the destruction their actions could have had on ingenious wildlife.

Sort of backfired though. Most of the mink returned when the moving machinery buzzers sounded the next morning (feeding time). Local wildlife conservation groups trapped (and killed) most of the remainder over the following few days, almost all in the following month.

folamh · 04-10-2015 02:30PM

KatW4 wrote: »

I'm not sure, that's why I said maybe...

Well alright but you said "Maybe he gets more money for having the dog but I'm sure he spends it on taking care of it and feeding it."

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 04-10-2015 02:41PM

folamh wrote: »

Well alright but you said "Maybe he gets more money for having the dog but I'm sure he spends it on taking care of it and feeding it."

And how do you know they don't? Do you have any evidence that they're not being looked after?

KatW4 · 04-10-2015 02:56PM

folamh wrote:

Well alright but you said "Maybe he gets more money for having the dog but I'm sure he spends it on taking care of it and feeding it."

The dog didn't exactly look malnourished so I presume he would spend any money he gets on the dog. I dont know if he spends money on the dog and I also don't know if he spends all of the money on himself.

end of the road · 04-10-2015 03:03PM

folamh wrote: »

How do we know that they weren't acting on a report that the man was mistreating the dog?

as they were "animal rights" "activists" and not the authorities, it doesn't matter what they were acting on. only the authorities can act on reports

folamh wrote: »

Some "homeless" people use animals as props for their begging.

yes, and thats for the authorities to deal with via the proper channels. not "animal rights" "activists" via commiting crimes.

folamh · 04-10-2015 03:17PM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

And how do you know they don't? Do you have any evidence that they're not being looked after?

I don't know! I never said that they're not being looked after. I asked a question.

folamh · 04-10-2015 03:20PM

end of the road wrote: »

as they were "animal rights" "activists" and not the authorities, it doesn't matter what they were acting on. only the authorities can act on reports

yes, and thats for the authorities to deal with via the proper channels. not "animal rights" "activists" via commiting crimes.

I agree that it is not the role of animal rights activists to confiscate pets, but I would judge them less harshly if they were acting on evidence that the man was mistreating the dog.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 04-10-2015 03:21PM

folamh wrote: »

I don't know! I never said that they're not being looked after. I asked a question.

And jumped down the posters throat after she clarified herself. Neither party can know for sure, so why bother picking apart someone's opinion?

folamh · 04-10-2015 03:25PM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

And jumped down the posters throat after she clarified herself.

I didn't jump down anyone's throat. I said "Well alright" i.e. accepting her clarification, and "but you said..." explaining why I thought she meant something else.

Neither party can know for sure, so why bother picking apart someone's opinion?

I was challenging what I perceived to be a statement of certainty: "Maybe he gets more money for having the dog but I'm sure he spends it on taking care of it and feeding it."

Gee, quit jumping down my throat.

folamh · 04-10-2015 03:27PM

KatW4 wrote: »

The dog didn't exactly look malnourished so I presume he would spend any money he gets on the dog. I dont know if he spends money on the dog and I also don't know if he spends all of the money on himself.

I don't think that presumption is justified.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 04-10-2015 03:33PM

She said she is sure (not you) that the dog she saw wasn't starving. Did you see the same dog? Is she wrong?
There's plenty of dogs in homes with people working and with money that aren't being fed. There's plenty of homeless dogs not being fed.
There are plenty of homeless dogs that are being fed.

Genuine dog lovers, would feed a pet before feeding themselves. When I personally see a little dog happy out, playing with its toys, being pushed around while sitting on her owners entire belongings like she's queen of the world, while her owners pushing the trolley looking like he's about to fold in two with the hunger, I don't think "oh look, the poor dog". That dog is treated better than any other dog i know.

You can't automatically assume all homeless people mistreat their pets. I'd imagine for a lot of them, it's very isolating and lonely and their pet might be the only thing left in this world that they care about.

folamh · 04-10-2015 03:38PM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

She said she is sure (not you) that the dog she saw wasn't starving. Did you see the same dog? Is she wrong?

The dog in the OP video? Yes. Is she wrong to be sure that it's not starving? Yes, it's wrong to be sure of that. The dog might be starving.

There's plenty of dogs in homes with people working and with money that aren't being fed. There's plenty of homeless dogs not being fed.
There are plenty of homeless dogs that are being fed.

Sure, I didn't say anything to contradict this.

Genuine dog lovers, would feed a pet before feeding themselves. When I personally see a little dog happy out, playing with its toys, being pushed around while sitting on her owners entire belongings like she's queen of the world, while her owners pushing the trolley looking like he's about to fold in two with the hunger, I don't think "oh look, the poor dog". That dog is treated better than any other dog i know.

Cool story, bro.

You can't automatically assume all homeless people mistreat their pets. I'd imagine for a lot of them, it's very isolating and lonely and their pet might be the only thing left in this world that they care about.

I don't assume that.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 04-10-2015 03:46PM

Whatever, spoiling for an arguement.

folamh · 04-10-2015 03:50PM

I'm only responding to your questions, lol.

super_furry · 04-10-2015 03:54PM

Does every Dublin beggar still carry a rabbit with them? That was fierce trendy for a while.

end of the road · 04-10-2015 04:32PM

folamh wrote: »

I agree that it is not the role of animal rights activists to confiscate pets, but I would judge them less harshly if they were acting on evidence that the man was mistreating the dog.

the only time you should judge them non or less harshly, is if they report concerns, or hand over evidence to the authorities. even if they had any evidence of miss treatment, stealing the animal should lead to the same judgement as stealing an animal without evidence.

KatW4 · 04-10-2015 06:30PM

folamh wrote:

I don't think that presumption is justified.

To you maybe. Like Lexie said, a pet owner would more than likely look after the pet more than themselves. I know I would. That's why I said what I said.

Skatedude · 05-10-2015 08:29PM

People posted that they knew the guy and that his 15 year old dog recently died and that's why he got the puppy, others say he wasn't homeless and was just a f**king roma so got what he deserved,(cant agree with that) others say the dog was drugged,others say he he was in the area for years and always loved his pets more then he cared for himself, others say,
well you get the picture, but did the video look like he lost a possession, or lost a friend??

Red21 · 16-10-2015 02:30PM

your man got his dog back

Animal rights group forcefully take dog off homeless man

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