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TCD students cheer islamist Asghar Bukhari and his defence of the Charlie Hebdo k

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  • 02-10-2015 11:40pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭


    TCD students cheer islamist Asghar Bukhari and his defence of the Charlie Hebdo killings in Paris
    I witnessed something genuinely disturbing at Trinity College Dublin last night: trendy, middle-class, liberal students cheering and whooping a man who had just given the closest thing I have yet heard to a justification for the massacre at Charlie Hebdo.
    It was as part of a debate on the right to offend. I was on the side of people having the right to say whatever the hell they want, no matter whose panties it bunches. The man on the other side who implied that Charlie Hebdo got what it deserved, and that the right to offend is a poisonous, dangerous notion, was one Asghar Bukhari of the Muslim Public Affairs Committee.
    Bukhari defamed Charlie Hebdo as racist, the same dim-witted claim made by every Charliephobe who has clearly never seen an issue of this magazine that rails against the far right and prejudiced politicians.
    He then offered us a potted history of French imperialism and brutality in Algeria. Why? As an explanation for why the murderers of Charlie Hebdo’s staff — who were of Algerian descent — did what they did.
    But the audience at last night’s debate was not part of any cynical, self-styled community group. They were young. They were mainly liberals. They were pretty cool. Some were painfully PC. And yet some of them — a significant chunk of them — cheered Bukhari’s explanation for the Charlie killers’ actions, and applauded his suggestion that my question must have been motivated by racism.
    During my speech, students had hollered ‘Shame! Shame!’ when I suggested that Robin Thicke’s ‘Blurred Lines’ should not be banned on campuses. And yet they listened intently, with soft, understanding, patronising liberal smiles on their faces, as Bukhari implied that Charlie Hebdo brought its massacre on itself. This is how screwed-up the culture on Western campuses has become: I was jeered for suggesting we shouldn’t ban pop songs; Bukhari was cheered for suggesting journalists who mock Muhammad cannot be surprised if someone later blows their heads off.
    It provided a glimpse into the inhumanity of political correctness. The PC gang always claim they’re just being nice; it’s just ‘institutionalised politeness’, they say. Yet at Trinity last night I saw where today’s intolerance of offence and obsession with Safe Spacing minorities from difficult ideas can lead: to an agreeable nod of the head when it is suggested that it’s understandable when poor, victimised Muslims murder those who offended them.

    http://blogs.new.spectator.co.uk/2015/10/why-are-students-now-cheering-about-the-massacre-at-charlie-hebdo/

    I didn't think that we had this sort of bollocks festering here, bar a few head the balls. It is worrying that this sort of stuff is gaining traction in our universities.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,150 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    They could have at least mentioned which society organised the debate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 218 ✭✭LincolnsBeard


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt2CHO-eq7w

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR4Na1Rshjo

    Just have a listen to him and you'll quickly realise what he's really about.

    Dangerous men like this manage to go about unchallenged from large parts of the left.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,436 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    'Shame! Shame!'?

    Its like he stumbled into the scene from Game of Thrones:

    http://blog.chron.com/tubular/files/2015/09/shame-bell-game-of-thrones.gif


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 brice_nobes


    islam is in the very top tier of sacred cows of the pc left

    this doesnt surprise me at all , contrast this with that video which was doing the rounds a few years ago where this wan*k*r ( thirty something student ) from galway stood up during a talk in NUIG ( where an israeli citizen spoke about the mid east ) and more or less threatened to physically remove the guy from the podium


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭Bulbous Salutation


    Students tend to be a bunch of arseholes. This type of stuff isn't the type of thing that left-wing students would have appeased even 15 years ago when I was a student. It's disturbing, but you'd hope to put it down to most students being arseholes.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 803 ✭✭✭jungleman


    I don't know why universities give gimps like him the publicity he wants. He spouts misguided nonsense, which anyone in their right mind would laugh at.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21 Merv the perv


    And here was me thinking TCD students were smart.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,628 ✭✭✭Señor Fancy Pants


    And here was me thinking TCD students were smart.

    I thought that about people from Bray once.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 brice_nobes


    Students tend to be a bunch of arseholes. This type of stuff isn't the type of thing that left-wing students would have appeased even 15 years ago when I was a student. It's disturbing, but you'd hope to put it down to most students being arseholes.

    academia in ireland is a hivemind of leftist thought , bound to rub off on the idiot students who are also out to look trendy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    Martial9 wrote: »
    TCD students cheer islamist Asghar Bukhari and his defence of the Charlie Hebdo killings in Paris

    A small subset of TCD students more like.

    There's idiots everywhere.

    Even in Trinity believe it or not.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    I'm embarrassed for them


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭walshyn93


    Oh god no. It's happening here too.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21 Merv the perv


    Anyone know if they were Irish students ? or are they foreigners here studying ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭Bulbous Salutation


    academia in ireland is a hivemind of leftist thought , bound to rub off on the idiot students who are also out to look trendy

    I wouldn't count acceptance of the vile thoughts of this goon as being left-wing. There'd be lefties turning in their graves at the very idea of a young and mobile student population agreeing with this sort of dangerous claptrap.

    It's a strange sort of thing masquerading under the utterly false label of liberalism.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,151 ✭✭✭kupus


    jungleman wrote: »
    I don't know why universities give gimps like him the publicity he wants. He spouts misguided nonsense, which anyone in their right mind would laugh at.

    i see what you did there:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    Ah I'd wait to hear from someone else there but his description wouldn't surprise me at all. Radical Islam and the left have an odd relationship here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,981 ✭✭✭KomradeBishop


    Ugh...not that arsehole Brendan O'Neill again. He has been known to spew out all sorts of bollocks - so there is almost certainly something more behind this, beyond the title.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭walshyn93


    c_man wrote: »
    Ah I'd wait to hear from someone else there but his description wouldn't surprise me at all. Radical Islam and the left have an odd relationship here.

    Islamists need to weaken right wing politics in the west to succeed. Lefties have a political interest in that. They're useful idiots.

    Also, lefties like to argue that social problems are the result of conservative (fiscal, military, social) policy. So do Muslims. They make unnaturally comfortable bedfellows. For now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Paramite Pie


    TCD students support victim blaming... wonderful. Didn't realise people were so braindead.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭Arbiter of Good Taste


    It's because of sh1t like this that I have never donated a penny to TCD after graduating. Every year I get the begging bowl letter. Goes straight in the bin.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭TheLastMohican


    Most students rail against the status quo. Fuck me ...... I was even a student once! Beard, waistcoat, sandals, slogan T shirt and a fire inside. Jesus did I discuss the undiscussable! Nothing was sacred. All hours of the morning ........ as if it were important. Now, with age and hindsight, I realise that we "are but beads of sweat in the armpit of the great frog".



    Peace!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 55 ✭✭You Mirin?


    Lol, the 'best' college in our country and it's rated in the low hundreds of best colleges in the world yet they still admit morons who can't see how wrong this thinking is.

    Welp, there goes the ability to patronisingly laugh at American college campuses for being retarded.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭TheLastMohican


    c_man wrote: »
    Ah I'd wait to hear from someone else there but his description wouldn't surprise me at all. Radical Islam and the left have an odd relationship here.

    Radical Islam meets Champagne Socialist to connive with brain-dead DHs. Both get press attention and the next day dawns. Hallelujah!

    Radical? Don't imply. Most of the wusses in Trinity are just that ....... wusses.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭walshyn93


    You Mirin? wrote: »
    Lol, the 'best' college in our country and it's rated in the low hundreds of best colleges in the world yet they still admit morons who can't see how wrong this thinking is.

    Welp, there goes the ability to patronisingly laugh at American college campuses for being retarded.

    These are the people who will sit in the future Dáils. These people will pass laws that effect us.


  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭Martial9


    Ugh...not that arsehole Brendan O'Neill again.

    Yes, he is clearly the issue here. Ashgar Bukhari has previously tried to 'defend' the Charlie Hebdo murders.

    Here he is in action 24 hours after they took place:



    Thankfully Douglas Murray handed him his arse.


  • Registered Users Posts: 323 ✭✭steppen


    Ah, what till they are working and paying taxes. That'll knock the liberal out of most of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    jungleman wrote: »
    I don't know why universities give gimps like him the publicity he wants. He spouts misguided nonsense, which anyone in their right mind would laugh at.

    Eh no, I'm not into censorship. I'd rather someone showed up, gave their talk and bore the brunt if they are complete c*nts. If some ninnys in the audience agree with them, not much you can do, they'd just believe in something else suspect, if not this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    It's because of sh1t like this that I have never donated a penny to TCD after graduating. Every year I get the begging bowl letter. Goes straight in the bin.

    Urgh, what a covert brag. :pac:


    I jest, fellow TCD grad. I never donate money because I have none. :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,637 ✭✭✭✭josip


    They could have at least mentioned which society organised the debate.
    Sounds like the rabble in the Phil


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭Paz-CCFC


    How did he know they were "mainly liberals"? Wouldn't cheering a far right opinion suggest that they were right wing?


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