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Is Irish culture too Anglophone?

  • 02-10-2015 05:51PM
    #1
    garrixfan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 230 ✭✭


    Imagine how different we would be if we were an island to the right of the Brits and left of the Dutch.

    For the last 300 years we have very much been blocked out from the European experience by the Brits who do everything in their power to distance themselves from the mainland! That in turn has had an impact on the Irish, we don't see ourselves as an Island off Europe, we are an Island off another slightly bigger island.


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  • #2
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    garrixfan wrote: »
    Imagine how different we would be if we were an island to the right of the Brits and left of the Dutch.

    For the last 300 years we have very much been blocked out from the European experience by the Brits who do everything in their power to distance themselves from the mainland! That in turn has had an impact on the Irish, we don't see ourselves as an Island off Europe, we are an Island off another slightly bigger island.

    We are the most globalised country in the world, I don't agree with your opinion.


  • #3
    Pink Lemons
    Closed Accounts Posts: 437 ✭✭Pink Lemons


    What's this European experience you speak of? Britain also has a train that goes to mainland Europe so not what you'd call distancing themselves really..


  • #4
    jamesbere
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭jamesbere


    Oh look another English bashing thread, can't we have a Turkmenistan bashing thread


  • #5
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Anglophone?

    I don't think that means what you think it means.


  • #6
    garrixfan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 230 ✭✭garrixfan


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    Anglophone?

    I don't think that means what you think it means.

    I meant Anglocentric


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  • #7
    jungleman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 803 ✭✭✭jungleman


    It's much too Saxomophone for my liking.


  • #8
    Brian from Bray
    Closed Accounts Posts: 394 ✭✭Brian from Bray


    We speak English and have phones in Ireland so I guess you could say we are anglophone alright.


  • #9
    barneystinson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,686 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    garrixfan wrote: »
    I meant Anglocentric

    Your thread is too yawnophone, and you come across as fairly knobocentric...


  • #10
    Tarzana2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    Anglophone?

    I don't think that means what you think it means.

    The OP probably means anglophile?


  • #11
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    garrixfan wrote: »
    I meant Anglocentric

    Oh, okay.


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  • #12
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Is there anything da brits don't get blamed for. We share parts of our culture and history and have more in common with them than mainland Europe. I don't see why it's a problem.


  • #13
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    Oh, okay.

    Sorry, I meant bollocks.

    Jesus, it's happening to me now.


  • #14
    starling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭starling


    We're next door neighbours with Britain, of course there are going to be influences. Personally I'd be more inclined to feel irritation at Irish people going around saying stupid American things like "legit" and "looksmaxing" and stuff like that. But it's a silly thing to be annoyed about, tbh. We all use American slang now and then. It's just..there's a line, you know?


  • #15
    garrixfan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 230 ✭✭garrixfan


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    Is there anything da brits don't get blamed for. We share parts of our culture and history and have more in common with them than mainland Europe. I don't see why it's a problem.

    I have no problem with the brits no more than I have with Norwegians(Vikings) I still don't like how much English dominates our lives. It would be a far better country if we spoke Irish! Paradoxically we would be a more open people as a result imo.


  • #16
    KungPao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,796 ✭✭✭KungPao


    Too American, if anything.


  • #17
    Buona Fortuna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    Imagine if we were in the Pacific and we could eat coconuts for tae.


  • #18
    mattP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 255 ✭✭mattP


    Erra, Id say not


  • #19
    Korat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,417 ✭✭✭Korat


    Ireland has all the benefits of a colonial power like Britain, and the US, but can pick and choose which bits it wants to be associated with.

    There are worse places to ride the coattails of.


  • #20
    LDN_Irish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭LDN_Irish


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    We are the most globalised country in the world, I don't agree with your opinion.

    I've never heard this said before. How is that quantified? I'm not sure I fully get what it means.


  • #21
    John Doe1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭John Doe1


    If it wasn't for colonialism, the country could still be some feudal backwater with people living in huts.


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  • #22
    MarkAnthony
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    We are the most globalised country in the world, I don't agree with your opinion.

    We speak one language in the main, are about as liberal as Iran and eat potatoes with everything. Not to mention we're almost exactly the same as the UK in terms of working practices and attitudes.


  • #23
    MarkAnthony
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    John Doe1 wrote: »
    If it wasn't for colonialism, the country could still be some feudal backwater with people living in huts.

    Have you been to Leitrim?


  • #24
    keith16
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    MarkAnthony wrote: »
    We speak one language in the main, are about as liberal as Iran and eat potatoes with everything. Not to mention we're almost exactly the same as the UK in terms of working practices and attitudes.

    I HATE MYSELF


  • #25
    Mister Vain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,401 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    KungPao wrote: »
    Too American, if anything.

    Yes all the kids going around with their phony American accents.


  • #26
    keith16
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    Mister Vain wrote: »
    Yes all the kids going around with their phony American accents.

    Anglophony.


  • #27
    garrixfan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 230 ✭✭garrixfan


    Mister Vain wrote: »
    Yes all the kids going around with their phony American accents.

    Look at people like David Norris with their phony English accents


  • #28
    LDN_Irish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭LDN_Irish


    garrixfan wrote: »
    Look at people like David Norris with their phony English accents

    HAH DAH YOU??


  • #29
    Eugene Norman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    Mister Vain wrote: »
    Yes all the kids going around with their phony American accents.

    It's not that. Threads here are incredibly biased towards happenings in America or the kind of places America gives a **** about (Israel). We're fighting a proxy war between Anerican ideologies, the inane caterwauling of SJW vs Neocons.

    It's inevitable that we wouldn't have much of an identity, as we were colonised by a country which is now itself culturally colonised by American culture and ideology.


  • #30
    Eugene Norman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    garrixfan wrote: »
    Look at people like David Norris with their phony English accents

    That's old school Anglo Irish, a legitimate older culture in this country. He doesn't sound English to English ears.


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  • #31
    [Deleted User]
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    garrixfan wrote: »
    Look at people like David Norris with their phony English accents

    David Norris does not sound English.


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