Cork GAA Discussion Thread

thinkstoomuch1 · 28-09-2015 09:49PM

N20 wrote: »

Result from Dean Ryan today

@Munsterpps: Dean Ryan Cup Under 16.5 A Hurling Result - Thurles CBS 2-22 Charleville CBS 1-7

Fairly comprehensive defeat and Thurles play Midleton next
Very disappointing, would have Charleville been far more competitive than that

I know Dean Ryan starts early and sometimes teams can be caught if not focussed or organised

TTM Douglas CS compete in grade C I think not Harty - Do you think maybe you mean Rochestown College ?

Rochestown yes my apologies
I call them Douglas for short but I should not as Douglas have team also
Certainly charville beaten is a surprise by that margin
It's up to midelton now but they should do okay hopefully in the dean Ryan cup

Andre 3000 · 28-09-2015 09:51PM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Dorris captained the glen county under twenty one winning team around six years ago and actually played for cork in the b team in the strikes.
He's fast, skilful and certainly on the form of the last five county championship is scoring.
The question is is he's better than what's available.

Cork have lehane, paudie, horgan when he has a good day all ahead of him.Cadogan also.
Anthony Spillane needs games and jbm rated him hugely he said however he didn't actually give him much game time.
Luke meade is imo a better option as he's the best player in cork as a sweeper forward come midfield type player etc as having developed that role under the Hamilton cbs system he's excellent at it
Dayne lee should get more games this year.

The likes of Moylan and luke farell all have talent but have dropped off hugely and Darren mccarthy while a forward of good standard in club isn't an inter county forward and never was.

He certainly would deserve a few waterford crystal cup games to see he's standards
However more importantly to cork imo is the introduction of John Cronin, wille Leahy Kevin o Neill as there ball winners that cork need
If pa Callaghan played senior it would limit dorris chance imo.
I think it's hard to see dorris starting as not that he's a poor player far from it but the type of players he is cork have a lot like him and imo better than him but could be a sub.
But cork dont need fast skilful ball players in we need strong direct forceful good in the air type of hurlers who can run and break the tackle.
The one thing I'll give dorris credit for is he's always performing for club and he outscored horgan from play yesterday.
Horgan has to deliver a huge county final performance as the last two finals imo he hasn't performed to the standard to justify he's outstanding talents.

Great points. I am a big fan of Anthony Spillane as well as his brother Colm who I hope gets back into the fray as well as he's a very versatile player and a very strong player as well as being technically solid. I've also been impressed with Meade, he seems to never stop running and has a great eye for goal and is a very cute player in that he's clever. Great man to win ball back too and track back.

I forgot about Pa Callaghan, surely with the crisis in Cork hurling he'll be given he push to emerge onto the team. The type of forward Cork need - fast, strong as an ox, great to win ball and as skillful as anyone else.

Still I think Dorris could easily do a job for the intermediates. But you do raise a good point, hard for his type of player to break onto the team with the likes of Cadogan established there and Lehane and the likes ticking about too.

I hope Glen as a whole show up in the county final. Horgan was atrocious last year but so were the whole team, it was a shame the game was over at half time. I won't lie, I left at half time myself, pure shame after such a good Premier Intermediate Final which again this year should be a cracker. Would love to see Newcestown win it this year, would be an incredible achievement of such a small club to be senior in both codes. The Valleys team looks more solid though, with former and current Cork players throughout the team

thinkstoomuch1 · 28-09-2015 10:00PM

slingerz wrote: »

Breige Corkery = superstar

9 Football All Stars and a 10th is surely in the post.

A great great really really really great player
Full of want hunger resolve and sheer belief in her own ability
A warrior
As you say a tenth is in the post
There's definitely imo at least one more all ireland in her as I have no doubt absoultey none that either cork camoige or ladies football will win again next year if indeed they don't do the double again

It makes sense · 28-09-2015 11:05PM

N20 wrote: »

The goal chances missed must be a worry for glen, 2 scorching runs through the middle one from Hoggy, one from Mcdonnell both witha smell of goal off them resulting in no score - and no 8 for Glen had a chance to bury the game with 5 mins to go and fluffed it.

Having said that overall theGlen played with a higher intensity for longer than Midleton - midleton only finally Looked dangerous when O Shea came on and time was running out. Good few rmblings about Wallace, questions over team selection etc rumours hes heading back to Limerick ???? Dont think hes done his cork managerial aspirations much good

Speaking of which Kilmallock dethroned and out - there will be a new Limerick and new Munster club champions this year

Heard same old rumblings about Wallace certain players not happy talk of winning everything senior, junior and football all training together and now gone from everything strange call to start Smyth and coughlan yesterday in semi both pulled early says something about team selection I would say watch this space whether he stays on.

Orizio · 29-09-2015 01:54AM

The U-16.5 results aren't particularly surprising. Charleville CBS only have four players on the Cork U-15/U-16 squads, and Fermoy likewise four. If Charleville/Newtown or Bride Rovers/Castlelyons aren't strong at these age groups, neither school is going to do much against the likes of ASR and Thurles. This is true of every school that isn't Midleton.

At U-15/U-16, Midleton, A.G., Kanturk and CCR seem to be best represented. The other 6 Harty teams are quite poor player wise, at least stated by the dev. panels.

leaf123 · 29-09-2015 02:35AM

Congrats to barrs on winning the minor county and also hard luck to Douglas especially Sean Powter who had another savage game

DuffleBag · 29-09-2015 08:02AM

Speaking of Conor Dorris, what ever happened his brother Diarmuid? Was tipped for great things at minor and u21. Now not named on the Glen panel i see. Is he still hurling?

N20 · 29-09-2015 10:44AM

Orizio wrote: »

The U-16.5 results aren't particularly surprising. Charleville CBS only have four players on the Cork U-15/U-16 squads, and Fermoy likewise four. If Charleville/Newtown or Bride Rovers/Castlelyons aren't strong at these age groups, neither school is going to do much against the likes of ASR and Thurles. This is true of every school that isn't Midleton.

At U-15/U-16, Midleton, A.G., Kanturk and CCR seem to be best represented. The other 6 Harty teams are quite poor player wise, at least stated by the dev. panels.[/

I see your point but dont agree entirely

I know with the half year cut off teams can be lucky or unlucky but Im surprised cork schools werent more competitive

success breeds success and it would appear thurles are hoping to build on their harty win last year - thats an impressive win over Charleville - shouldnt Charleville have a few limerick lads as well I had heard they were going to be strong this year ( moreso at Harty - but with a young team ) I was expecting more from them - Newtown competed at P1 in minor this year and they have some strong younger players although one lad out with cruciate I think - cant recall his name

Glen/ Na Piarsiagh contested 16 Co Final in Cork and again I thought AG would have a fair share of these lads to supplement their team

Midleton with the cream of east cork, still in it so hopefully they can represent Cork well - the next days outing will tell a alot

I dont know a lot about Hamilton High

Rochestown surprisingly poor and again Douglas strong at that age group - would have thought with a few Blackrock and Carrigaline they would have had enough for CCRi - CCri always seem to punch above their weight and get the best from their teams but their concentration last few years on football, with Fitzgerald, Moynihan and Kerrigan very prominent there

Given the clean sweep by the rebel og squads and the loud noises coming from CCB about progress I'm just surprised some of our schools fell so easily. Of course CCB does nothing to promote or assist with the schools, I see the Lord Mayors Cup Comp is getting a bit of a lash on PROC and that is the sum of the token effort from Corks top administrators to our Schools - a huge failure on their part

If I recall correctly in the principles address in last years Harty prog Thurles thanked their Co Board for their cooperation and assistance with all Tipperary Schools but there was no references from a Cork perspective - Im not implying it was a deliberate omission it just doesnt cross the radar for Cork Schools. i know the Limerick Co Board also consult with their participating schools although I've heard it can be fractious as there has been a heavy concentration on their minors last few years detracting from some school preparations

Mehapoy · 29-09-2015 11:22AM

N20 wrote: »

Orizio wrote: »

The U-16.5 results aren't particularly surprising. Charleville CBS only have four players on the Cork U-15/U-16 squads, and Fermoy likewise four. If Charleville/Newtown or Bride Rovers/Castlelyons aren't strong at these age groups, neither school is going to do much against the likes of ASR and Thurles. This is true of every school that isn't Midleton.

At U-15/U-16, Midleton, A.G., Kanturk and CCR seem to be best represented. The other 6 Harty teams are quite poor player wise, at least stated by the dev. panels.[/

I see your point but dont agree entirely

I know with the half year cut off teams can be lucky or unlucky but Im surprised cork schools werent more competitive

success breeds success and it would appear thurles are hoping to build on their harty win last year - thats an impressive win over Charleville - shouldnt Charleville have a few limerick lads as well I had heard they were going to be strong this year ( moreso at Harty - but with a young team ) I was expecting more from them - Newtown competed at P1 in minor this year and they have some strong younger players although one lad out with cruciate I think - cant recall his name

Glen/ Na Piarsiagh contested 16 Co Final in Cork and again I thought AG would have a fair share of these lads to supplement their team

Midleton with the cream of east cork, still in it so hopefully they can represent Cork well - the next days outing will tell a alot

I dont know a lot about Hamilton High

Rochestown surprisingly poor and again Douglas strong at that age group - would have thought with a few Blackrock and Carrigaline they would have had enough for CCRi - CCri always seem to punch above their weight and get the best from their teams but their concentration last few years on football, with Fitzgerald, Moynihan and Kerrigan very prominent there

Given the clean sweep by the rebel og squads and the loud noises coming from CCB about progress I'm just surprised some of our schools fell so easily. Of course CCB does nothing to promote or assist with the schools, I see the Lord Mayors Cup Comp is getting a bit of a lash on PROC and that is the sum of the token effort from Corks top administrators to our Schools - a huge failure on their part

If I recall correctly in the principles address in last years Harty prog Thurles thanked their Co Board for their cooperation and assistance with all Tipperary Schools but there was no references from a Cork perspective - Im not implying it was a deliberate omission it just doesnt cross the radar for Cork Schools. i know the Limerick Co Board also consult with their participating schools although I've heard it can be fractious as there has been a heavy concentration on their minors last few years detracting from some school preparations

In relation to charleville CBS, kilmallock have been going well lately in the schools and had a win in the first round of the u16.5 A. its possible that limerick hurlers from effin, kilmallock, bruree etc. who may have gone to charleville from the Limerick hinterland before are going to kilmallock now...

Orizio · 29-09-2015 03:06PM

N20 wrote: »

Orizio wrote: »

The U-16.5 results aren't particularly surprising. Charleville CBS only have four players on the Cork U-15/U-16 squads, and Fermoy likewise four. If Charleville/Newtown or Bride Rovers/Castlelyons aren't strong at these age groups, neither school is going to do much against the likes of ASR and Thurles. This is true of every school that isn't Midleton.

At U-15/U-16, Midleton, A.G., Kanturk and CCR seem to be best represented. The other 6 Harty teams are quite poor player wise, at least stated by the dev. panels.[/

I see your point but dont agree entirely

I know with the half year cut off teams can be lucky or unlucky but Im surprised cork schools werent more competitive

success breeds success and it would appear thurles are hoping to build on their harty win last year - thats an impressive win over Charleville - shouldnt Charleville have a few limerick lads as well I had heard they were going to be strong this year ( moreso at Harty - but with a young team ) I was expecting more from them - Newtown competed at P1 in minor this year and they have some strong younger players although one lad out with cruciate I think - cant recall his name

Glen/ Na Piarsiagh contested 16 Co Final in Cork and again I thought AG would have a fair share of these lads to supplement their team

Midleton with the cream of east cork, still in it so hopefully they can represent Cork well - the next days outing will tell a alot

I dont know a lot about Hamilton High

Rochestown surprisingly poor and again Douglas strong at that age group - would have thought with a few Blackrock and Carrigaline they would have had enough for CCRi - CCri always seem to punch above their weight and get the best from their teams but their concentration last few years on football, with Fitzgerald, Moynihan and Kerrigan very prominent there

Given the clean sweep by the rebel og squads and the loud noises coming from CCB about progress I'm just surprised some of our schools fell so easily. Of course CCB does nothing to promote or assist with the schools, I see the Lord Mayors Cup Comp is getting a bit of a lash on PROC and that is the sum of the token effort from Corks top administrators to our Schools - a huge failure on their part

If I recall correctly in the principles address in last years Harty prog Thurles thanked their Co Board for their cooperation and assistance with all Tipperary Schools but there was no references from a Cork perspective - Im not implying it was a deliberate omission it just doesnt cross the radar for Cork Schools. i know the Limerick Co Board also consult with their participating schools although I've heard it can be fractious as there has been a heavy concentration on their minors last few years detracting from some school preparations

Have a look at the following pdf:

http://sportlomo-userupload.s3.amazonaws.com/uploaded/galleries/7_uploaded/AcademySummer%20Programme2015.pdf

Blackrock and Rochestown are almost nowhere to be seen.

dcrosskid · 29-09-2015 03:37PM

N20 wrote: »

Result from Dean Ryan today

@Munsterpps: Dean Ryan Cup Under 16.5 A Hurling Result - Thurles CBS 2-22 Charleville CBS 1-7

Fairly comprehensive defeat and Thurles play Midleton next
Very disappointing, would have Charleville been far more competitive than that

I know Dean Ryan starts early and sometimes teams can be caught if not focussed or organised

TTM Douglas CS compete in grade C I think not Harty - Do you think maybe you mean Rochestown College ?

Have you got the teams for this N20 or any idea where I could get them? i'd be interested to see who is on the Thurles team, have a feeling they will be strong this year.

Figsy32 · 29-09-2015 05:23PM

Orizio wrote: »

N20 wrote: »

Have a look at the following pdf:

http://sportlomo-userupload.s3.amazonaws.com/uploaded/galleries/7_uploaded/AcademySummer%20Programme2015.pdf

Blackrock and Rochestown are almost nowhere to be seen.

Blackrock are struggling badly at U15/16. Played Premier 2 at under 16 this year which is incredible.

willietherock · 29-09-2015 06:31PM

Figsy32 wrote: »

Orizio wrote: »

Blackrock are struggling badly at U15/16. Played Premier 2 at under 16 this year which is incredible.

Blackrock had 3 or 4 subs togged at this yrs county u16 final. Brilliant achievement to get to any county final with such a tiny pick.

willietherock · 29-09-2015 06:33PM

DuffleBag wrote: »

Speaking of Conor Dorris, what ever happened his brother Diarmuid? Was tipped for great things at minor and u21. Now not named on the Glen panel i see. Is he still hurling?

Don'think he has hurled for yrs.

willietherock · 29-09-2015 06:42PM

Paul Virgo still hurling with Glen?

Figsy32 · 29-09-2015 08:17PM

willietherock wrote: »

Figsy32 wrote: »

Blackrock had 3 or 4 subs togged at this yrs county u16 final. Brilliant achievement to get to any county final with such a tiny pick.

The team itself did very well to reach the final. Had some really entertaining games and have benefitted from the drop in division. Their hurling has improved. Massive drop off from what Blackrock have produced underage in the last few years though.

Blue Magic · 29-09-2015 08:21PM

Who's the favourite for Cork job lads? Heard Kieran Kingston... Please not Tomas Mul!!!

CORKDOUBLE · 29-09-2015 09:06PM

Blue Magic wrote: »

Who's the favourite for Cork job lads? Heard Kieran Kingston... Please not Tomas Mul!!!

According to the Examiner today the interview process has not even started yet ...sweet divine ..other teams making arrangements for next year already ..our club championships coming to a finish and no manager to have a look at players etc...I always think if a player can play well in a county final for his club hes worth a look at for the county team.

Orizio · 30-09-2015 02:44AM

willietherock wrote: »

Blackrock had 3 or 4 subs togged at this yrs county u16 final. Brilliant achievement to get to any county final with such a tiny pick.

Sarcasm?

commonsense. · 01-10-2015 12:12AM

commonsense. wrote:

Mallow/Fr O'Neills drew in u21 hurling q/final tonight. Nip and tuck most of the way. Mallow went 5 up shortly before half time (3 in it at h/t) but O'Neills scored the next 8 points on the bounce to take a three point lead half way through the second half. Mallow then came back into it with a goal to level and then kicked on to lead by 4 with 5 minutes left. Fair play to O'Neills they didn't give in and scored 1 1 to level it and send it to a replay. Very poor first half (27th minute before a point from play) with a better second half which finished in a welter of excitement. Overall not a great standard (in keeping with this year's u21 fare generally - no standout teams) but we'll worth the fiver in given the exciting finish.

Comprehensive win for O'Neills in tonight's replay. Only 1 point in it at half time (9 pts to 8 to O'Neills) but O'Neills the better team by a distance in the second half. Based on last week's performance I wouldn't have given either team much chance of winning it out but O'Neills looked a decent team on tonight's performance. Much improved from last week. Hard working all over the field and much better balanced than Mallow who were really disappointing. Everyone from 8 to 15 scored for O'Neills (plus a point from their no 5) while Mallow had to rely hugely on the free taking of Sean Hayes for their scores. He scored 1 8 (all placed balls bar 1 point from play) out of a total of 2 11. Says it all really for the rest of the Mallow forwards who were pretty poor. Main scorers for O'Neills were Kevin O'sullivan (7 frees) and Billy Dunne with 1 4, all from play. Billy is clinical once he gets sight of goal or posts and pretty much killed off Mallow with 1 3 in the first 15 minutes of the second half. He needs to seriously learn though how to win his own ball. It's the major weakness in his game and will really limit him if he wants to play at the highest level.
Overall a fully deserved win for O'Neills who on tonight's performance will be a handful for Blackrock in the semi final. Duhallow await the winners in the final after getting past Blarney in their semi final tonight.
Special mention for tonight's ref, Michael O'Mahony from Kilbrittain. I've seen this guy in action before and consider him a really poor ref. Tonight he was giving frees to both sides where absolutely none existed. There wasn't a dirty stroke in the game, he should have let them hurl and let the game flow. He also seems to make up rules as he goes along. At one stage O'Neills had a 65 right out on the sideline which was dropping short. Our whistle happy ref spots something off the ball as it's dropping on the edge of the square. So in his wisdom he allows O'Neills to take it again only this time he brings it 10 yards in field and 15 yards closer to goal. Unbelievable!

Producer Ben · 01-10-2015 09:12AM

Good win too for Duhallow in the u21, 4-15 to 2-13. Duhallow got their last goal with the last puck of the game. Fair play to Blarney they put it up to Duhallow. Blarney were unlucky with two goals, Duhallow forwards pouncing on great saves by the Blarney goalkeeper.

CORKDOUBLE · 01-10-2015 10:25AM

I wonder is our luck in the Munster Club Championships about to change this Autumn ? the reason for this if you look at the draws 5 of our county champions have semi finals to play ..so at least a better chance in getting to a few Munster finals !

N20 · 01-10-2015 11:09AM

dcrosskid wrote: »

Have you got the teams for this N20 or any idea where I could get them? i'd be interested to see who is on the Thurles team, have a feeling they will be strong this year.

I dont have them

I know munster gaa had a good share of teams on their website last year - the all have to be sent in now in advance and teams named

Sometime a school website might name a team or theres always local newspapers vale/thurles star ! but prob not fir early rounds - templemore v DLS postponed yest following death of Paul Foley RIP

Im sure our resident analyst TTM will have some detailed reports of his own as the games are rolled out.

Make sure you post if you get them

N20 · 01-10-2015 11:17AM

Orizio wrote: »

N20 wrote: »

Have a look at the following pdf:

http://sportlomo-userupload.s3.amazonaws.com/uploaded/galleries/7_uploaded/AcademySummer%20Programme2015.pdf

Blackrock and Rochestown are almost nowhere to be seen.

Thanks for that Orizio I didnt realise that level of detail was in that report

Interestning reading alright and certainly someone handy with the pivot tables

Some surprising 'stats' but I suppose the key detail is the 17 panel which will comprise bulk of next years minors - while there are onky a handful of dual players listed there is definitely a good number of players highly competent and playing both codes but have opted only for one for purpose of squads

I wonder what the CCB/ rebel og actually do with the detail - with a database of all their players they are in agreat position to go to schools and clubs to ensure their development and retention.

N20 · 01-10-2015 11:24AM

commonsense. wrote: »

Comprehensive win for O'Neills in tonight's replay. Only 1 point in it at half time (9 pts to 8 to O'Neills) but O'Neills the better team by a distance in the second half. Based on last week's performance I wouldn't have given either team much chance of winning it out but O'Neills looked a decent team on tonight's performance. Much improved from last week. Hard working all over the field and much better balanced than Mallow who were really disappointing. Everyone from 8 to 15 scored for O'Neills (plus a point from their no 5) while Mallow had to rely hugely on the free taking of Sean Hayes for their scores. He scored 1 8 (all placed balls bar 1 point from play) out of a total of 2 11. Says it all really for the rest of the Mallow forwards who were pretty poor. Main scorers for O'Neills were Kevin O'sullivan (7 frees) and Billy Dunne with 1 4, all from play. Billy is clinical once he gets sight of goal or posts and pretty much killed off Mallow with 1 3 in the first 15 minutes of the second half. He needs to seriously learn though how to win his own ball. It's the major weakness in his game and will really limit him if he wants to play at the highest level.
Overall a fully deserved win for O'Neills who on tonight's performance will be a handful for Blackrock in the semi final. Duhallow await the winners in the final after getting past Blarney in their semi final tonight.
Special mention for tonight's ref, Michael O'Mahony from Kilbrittain. I've seen this guy in action before and consider him a really poor ref. Tonight he was giving frees to both sides where absolutely none existed. There wasn't a dirty stroke in the game, he should have let them hurl and let the game flow. He also seems to make up rules as he goes along. At one stage O'Neills had a 65 right out on the sideline which was dropping short. Our whistle happy ref spots something off the ball as it's dropping on the edge of the square. So in his wisdom he allows O'Neills to take it again only this time he brings it 10 yards in field and 15 yards closer to goal. Unbelievable!

Saw most of that game - Fr O Neills certainly upped in second half and were nearly out of sight before goal killed off Mallow. Sheehan and O Herlihy very disappointing for Mallow and Luttrel seems to be carrying an injury still - O Neills doggedness, and some very able hurlers just seemed to break the back of Mallow.
the bulk of those O Neills players are on nearly every team a d still have great hunger - you can't beat the pride of the little village - and all without Dalton who has become such a force for them last year or two.

Hayes and Dunne definitely need a bit more steel about them if they want to step up to the bigger stage but hopefully that might come yet

every chance O Neills could go the whole way

CORKDOUBLE · 01-10-2015 03:04PM

John Cleary not there yet ..tough going still with talks etc...

CORKDOUBLE · 01-10-2015 08:07PM

John Cleary is out ...disaster.

Producer Ben · 01-10-2015 08:23PM

Frank not bowing to demands?

CORKDOUBLE · 01-10-2015 09:44PM

Producer Ben wrote: »

Frank not bowing to demands?

more or less

wackokid · 02-10-2015 12:18AM

So what were Cleary's demands? Anybody?

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