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'Sweat-shaming' - a thing, apparently

  • 30-09-2015 11:50AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,876 ✭✭✭


    We've had fat-shaming, slut-shaming, skinny-shaming, period-shaming (EDIT: forgot about that one) and someone invented 'makeup-shaming' back in June.

    Now, according to The Guardian (obviously), we have a whole new way to play the victim card: 'sweat-shaming'. I've highlighted some quotes below.



    Why I was sweat-shamed as I waited for my coffee at Starbucks

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/30/sweat-shamed-waited-for-my-coffee-at-starbucks



    I was ordering coffee when I noticed a well-dressed woman staring at me.

    “You look like you just did a class,” she said, giving me the once-over. I had no idea what she meant so I said nothing.

    “Or swimming?” she offered, with a tight smile.

    Oh, that. I’d just run 12 miles and the hair sticking out from under my hat was wet. It took me a moment to formulate an answer.

    “Um, running,” I mumbled finally. “I just … sweat a lot.”

    I took the paper cup of drip coffee and hustled past the condiment bar. Screw the half-and-half; I’d drink it black.

    Once safely inside my car, I threw off my damp running cap and flipped up the hood of my sweatshirt in embarrassment. I wanted to dive deep into that Lululemon Scuba and never come back up for air.

    Eventually the caffeine kicked in and it hit me: I’d been sweat-shamed. Sweat-shaming is when someone points out your sweatiness as a way to signal disapproval. Like its counterparts, slut-shaming and fat-shaming, sweat-shaming is aimed mainly at women, who are actually not supposed to sweat at all.

    Horses sweat, men perspire, and women glow, as the saying goes.

    I glow like a nuclear reactor. My body cools itself exactly as I need it to. After long, hard runs my fair, fine hair sometimes ends up dripping wet. I bring dry clothes to throw on afterward and try to forget about it.

    Until somebody reminds me. Strong may be the new sexy and fit may be the new skinny but sweaty is as gross as ever. To “sweat like a pig” is to be fat, dirty, uncivilized. Nobody wants to fall into this category, so we attempt to conceal our perspiration – something I’d tried but failed to do at Starbucks.

    Rather than challenge sweat-shaming, I played right into it, conceding that I “sweat a lot.”

    But do I, really? We have been hiding this natural bodily function so long we have no idea how much a “normal” woman sweats – if there is such a thing – much the same way many men have no idea how much make-up it takes to produce “natural” beauty.

    Now, instead of just concealing sweat, we may opt to stop it entirely. A flurry of recent “trend” articles describe how some women are getting Botox injected into in their scalps to keep their heads from sweating, thus preserving their blow-outs through intense SoulCycle sessions.

    Pharmaceuticals may one day liberate us from perspiration. But what if instead we chose to be liberated by it?

    In her book, The Female Grotesque, feminist theorist Mary Russo explains how throughout literature, the image of the “open, protruding, secreting body,” stands in contrast to archetypal female beauty and might offer a way to subvert it.

    Open, protruding, secreting; this sounds a lot like the body of a woman running. Literature’s crones and bearded ladies may have been on to something, but it would be nice if women could exercise their freedoms without being regarded as freaks.

    If I were to re-imagine the sweat-shaming incident as a music video, it would play out like this: a spotlight comes down, and maybe a disco ball. Baristas dance back-up around me.

    “I don’t think you’re ready for this sweaty,” I belt out, to the tune of Bootylicious.

    It’s just a fantasy, but it helps me see how I might react differently. I’ve got another long run this weekend and afterward, I’m going to sit down with my coffee, all sweaty and transgressive.

    The stigmas surrounding women’s bodies are powerful, but they’re no match for how powerful I feel after running.


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Comments

  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What a delicate ****ing flower.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,981 ✭✭✭Caliden


    Or chit chat?


    What a ridiculous article. Some people need to stop running to the internet to seek gratification from others.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    I suppose saying "fuck off ye cow" and carrying on was too much to ask.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    I shat myself and rubbed it all over the shop counter when I went in for a gallon of milk earlier. Of course your one behind the counter was displeased and made a suggestion she was not happy about this encounter.

    I had been...... sh1t-shamed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Ever hear the saying 'you can't shame a galloping donkey'?


    I think it's a saying that should be used more often.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 734 ✭✭✭jimbob_jones


    Sums it up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭gramar


    Whoever wrote than article is someone who wanted to take wilful offence.
    The other silly cow in the article probably had her armpits botoxed and wanted to feel wilfully superior because her armpits were as dry as her fanny.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    I see the Guardian is still being the Guardian. Thanks for letting us know OP. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Can we have Starbucks shaming please?
    Can that be the next thing?

    Shaming combined with a punch to the forehead.


    "Is that Starbucks coffee?"
    "Yeah, I just couldn't live without my daily mocha-focha..."
    "Douche! *POW*"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    The great thing about these ludicrous guardian (and other) articles is the comments BTL, which are invariably a mix of the hilarious and enlightening. Far better than what's ATL as a rule.


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  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    How about we start drama queen shaming? Or precious princess shaming? Or self-entitled idiot shaming? I'm all for that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭Kev W


    Both people in this story are ****.

    The stranger for commenting on the author's appearance as if it's any of their business and the author for thinking this was a story worth telling the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    The problem is not that someone else commented on her sweating, the problem is that the author is ashamed of sweating. She says so right in the article.

    Someone can only "sweat shame" you if you're ashamed of sweating. So this woman needs to get over herself and grow a backbone and some self-esteem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Oh the humanity of it all.

    I hope she found an appropriate therapist and is on the right medication for this horrific event which of course would give anyone PTSD.

    She sounds like she either has no self-esteem or, more than likely, thought "I know a good article to write!"

    This article of her plight triggered my trigger on triggers of triggers where triggers are involved.
    Trigger


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭Kev W


    Also “I don’t think you’re ready for this sweaty” would be a terrible comeback.

    Better to go with "I just climbed down off your husband, actually. Most of this is his."


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Plus -- if she's really just after finishing a 12 mile run, is a coffee from Starbucks really going to be your first priority?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 734 ✭✭✭jimbob_jones


    Plus -- if she's really just after finishing a 12 mile run, is a coffee from Starbucks really going to be your first priority?

    Coffee shaming on-top of sweat shaming

    Oh the humanity !!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,009 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Once you see it is in the commentisfree section, you know there will be trouble.

    Why the Guardian continues to allow these submissions from outside writers is beyond me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭RichardoKhan


    The Internet has given us many things. From the sublime to the ridiculous but it comes at a price. That price is that everyone has a voice. From very dangerous extremists to the Drama Royalty (Drama Kings & Queens). 20 Years ago we would have just ignored these people as rambling fools in the Pub, cafe, workplace etc.
    Now other affiliates hook in & the media has a field day...............

    Just like then, now & in the future IGNORE them...............


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    I learned a brilliant new phrase from the comments section though, which sums up exactly what this article and stuff of its ilk are:

    "Victim Claiming"

    Fantastic.


  • Posts: 53,068 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I....I....I just...


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    I don't think a single person in the world would take that article seriously, and I include the author in that.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 488 ✭✭smoking_kills


    I don't think a single person in the world would take that article seriously, and I include the author in that.

    Never been to Tumblr I see. :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,235 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    ...“You look like you just did a class,” she said, giving me the once-over. I had no idea what she meant so I said nothing.

    “Or swimming?” she offered, with a tight smile...

    "Fuck off and mind your own business." <END-OF-LINE>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Knasher


    A guy out begging near an ATM once told me I looked like a goat. I wonder if I could write an article for the guardian about that.

    Anyone know if goat shaming is a thing yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Well, this is the same paper that had an article stating that ties are sexist :pac:


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Knasher wrote: »
    A guy out begging near an ATM once told me I looked like a goat. I wonder if I could write an article for the guardian about that.

    Anyone know if goat shaming is a thing yet?

    Yes, yes it is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Xaracatz


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    Well, this is the same paper that had an article stating that ties are sexist :pac:

    "Pointing insistently towards the man's crotch" apparently.

    That's ruined my tie appreciation for today anyway.

    At least it was unambiguously pointed out that "some academics might be women".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,796 ✭✭✭KungPao


    Plus -- if she's really just after finishing a 12 mile run, is a coffee from Starbucks really going to be your first priority?
    Ever notice how stories like these always mention something like Starbucks, M&S, a classy restaurant? I reckon she was standing in a queue in a Spar getting a bottle of Fanta and a packet of wotsits, but needed to 'glam up' the article.


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