Alcohol off sales ater 10 PM rule.

Spunge · 27-09-2015 04:55PM

the drnking laws in bangkok are nearly as bad now. it sucks

Tarzana2 · 27-09-2015 05:12PM

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

The idea is that easy availability of alcohol causes mass drunkenness.
In Germany you can go to....

Germany this and Germany that, boards.ie should just marry Germany for the amount of Germanic disciples there are on boards.

I jest. :pac::pac::pac::pac: I agree with your post.

Fr_Dougal · 27-09-2015 05:24PM

loyatemu wrote: »

Even more stupid, I go into Tesco at 9am to do some grocery shopping, I can't pick up a bottle of wine.

On a Sunday I can't buy one until midday ffs. Why not? Am I supposed to be in mass?

Yes. :mad:

rubadub · 27-09-2015 05:51PM

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Don't really see an issue with the rule, 10pm is reasonable.

I don't think it's reasonable. None of the drinking hours are -which appear to work on the assumption that everybody works a 9 to 5 job. Would you consider drink being on sale between 10.30pm and 10am to be reasonable?

The Dail bar is allowed open later than others, as appear to consider themselves to be the only ones working past 5 and deserving of it.

The fact their workplace has a fucking room selling recreational drugs is another issue altogether.

I remember in tesco letting a young couple go first in a queue who were buying their dinner and a single bottle of wine, nobody had a bother letting them through, people saying how ridiculous it was, was still fairly bright out at this stage, many not reaslising how late it was and doing a double take.

Tarzana2 wrote: »

I'm not a big drinker but the off-licence laws in this country are ridic. I can only assume the hours were shortened to drive people into the pubs?

This was the common thought. It backfired with most people I know. Many times when it comes near 10 people bail out of the put in time for the offie, and otherwise would have stopped at normal drinking hours.

The Randy Riverbeast wrote: »

I'm not sure how encouraging people to hoard alcohol in their house helps. Wouldnt it make people more likely to drink as it is easily available?

It backfired in that way too, people will typically buy more than they need in the offie if leaving the pub to make the offie, or have stockpiles at home already.

ArnoldJRimmer · 27-09-2015 05:52PM

Its an absolutely ridiculous rule, same as Good Friday. Why the hell should normal people be restricted as to when they buy alcohol? Don't give me the rubbish about 'do we not drink enough already?/ is this all we have to worry about?'.

This is to suit the pubs, plain and simple. People who want to get hammered will find a way, probably by stockpiling drink ironically. In the meantime, shift workers, or anyone who just fancies grabbing a bottle of wine or a few cans is penalized. And what we get for justification is that people can't be trusted to drink in their homes and need publicans to keep an eye on them. A load of bullplop, particularly since there doesn't seem to be any standard around how drunk you need to be to be refused service

The Randy Riverbeast · 27-09-2015 05:58PM

rubadub wrote: »

I don't think it's reasonable. None of the drinking hours are -which appear to work on the assumption that everybody works a 9 to 5 job. Would you consider drink being on sale between 10.30pm and 10am to be reasonable?

The Dail bar is allowed open later than others, as appear to consider themselves to be the only ones working past 5 and deserving of it.

The fact their workplace has a fucking room selling recreational drugs is another issue altogether.

I remember in tesco letting a young couple go first in a queue who were buying their dinner and a single bottle of wine, nobody had a bother letting them through, people saying how ridiculous it was, was still fairly bright out at this stage, many not reaslising how late it was and doing a double take.

This was the common thought. It backfired with most people I know. Many times when it comes near 10 people bail out of the put in time for the offie, and otherwise would have stopped at normal drinking hours.

It backfired in that way too, people will typically buy more than they need in the offie if leaving the pub to make the offie, or have stockpiles at home already.

Thinking about it, this is what I do. If I plan on not staying out late and drinking at home with some friends we have to leave the pub early instead of staying 1-2 more hours.

The Cool · 27-09-2015 06:19PM

The Good Friday alcohol ban annoys me more, whatever about the daily restrictions if they're supposedly for social reasons and there are arguments that it works, but Good Friday is purely a religious thing, and we don't all share those religious beliefs. My family are CoI, though I don't generally practice religion anyway, and there's been a few years when our family have got together for Easter weekend, when the weather was nice and the barbecue was brought out (meat and all, proper Protestant heathens we are). But unless it's been planned ahead or if we have cousins coming down from the north, we can't have a beer or two with our burgers. I just don't see why the government of such a well-developed country impose rules on me for a day I don't give squat about. There's just no reason for it really.

Whitewinged · 27-09-2015 07:42PM

Tbh it doesnt bother me what time they open or close at but i understand it can be inconvenient for some.

Some of the best house parties ive been to were on good friday. Its like everything is trying to stop you so it makes you want to and appreciate it more, theres no pubs open, no off licence, even God is trying to stop you (and im not even religious)! It makes you go out of your way to drink

colossus-x · 27-09-2015 08:07PM

It's to discourage late night parties that follow through to the morning and afternoon. ie the late drinkers may go to bed instead of staying up till morning to carry on when the shops open.

Your right though, it is mean to someone who hasn't been out the night before and wants to get something in at say 10am.

Unfortunately more then ever young people are not drinking responsibly and late night parties are getting more prevalent. They cause all sorts of problems especially for older people with noise pollution and something has to be done about it.

It's not a policy that's interned to be a killjoy. Well except for the late night party-goers.

DeanAustin · 27-09-2015 09:49PM

custard gannet wrote: »

The man was a scumbag out and out. Didn't he once moot the idea of raising the drinking age to 21? Personally if I were Taoiseach I'd bring it down to 15 for beer/ cider sales from an offo, 16 for pub sales. Kids are going to get their hands on it anyway so why the fuuck not.

Jesus Christ. McDowell can be accused of many things but he isn't a scumbag. The fact that you try to justify that tag with his opinions about the drinking age is mind boggling.

Kevin Dundon is a scumbag. Freddie Thompson is a scumbag. Michael McDowell is no such thing and it's a sad indictment of this board that the label of scumbag is being thrown around so much now at people who, rightly or wrongly, are/were just trying their best in a job that happens to be in the public eye.

Haznat · 27-09-2015 10:06PM

DeanAustin wrote: »

Jesus Christ. McDowell can be accused of many things but he isn't a scumbag. The fact that you try to justify that tag with his opinions about the drinking age is mind boggling.

Kevin Dundon is a scumbag. Freddie Thompson is a scumbag. Michael McDowell is no such thing and it's a sad indictment of this board that the label of scumbag is being thrown around so much now at people who, rightly or wrongly, are/were just trying their best in a job that happens to be in the public eye.

Hating poor people is what makes him a scumbag.

Boskowski · 27-09-2015 10:22PM

Tarzana2 wrote: »

Germany this and Germany that, boards.ie should just marry Germany for the amount of Germanic disciples there are on boards.

I jest. :pac::pac::pac::pac: I agree with your post.

Ok... We'll let it slip this time, but we'll keep an eye on you. :eek:

:cool:

OneArt · 27-09-2015 10:32PM

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

The idea is that easy availability of alcohol causes mass drunkenness.
In Germany you can go to a 24 hour petrol station to buy beer a 4 am if you want and in some workplaces beer is available from vending machines.
The next theory is that cheap price causes mass drunkenness.
In Germany you can go to Aldi and buy yourself a 6 pack and a bottle of 40% vodka for LESS than €20.
Pubs are reasonable too.
When I was over there earlier this year, did I see hordes of Germans crawling around drunk, puking, fighting and urinating?
Let me think...no. Not a single one. People have a few civilised drinks and then go home.

Someone's never been to Dusseldorf Altstadt of a Saturday. Puke city.

That being said you are generally right... Drinkers in Germany are a lot more civilised than in Ireland.

meeeeh · 27-09-2015 10:51PM

The Randy Riverbeast wrote: »

I'm not sure how encouraging people to hoard alcohol in their house helps. Wouldnt it make people more likely to drink as it is easily available?

Hoarding is better than someone sitting into a car and driving to an off licence for a top up after the booze at home is drank. It also prevents your random alco getting a top up on the way to work.

If you can't live with a stock of booze in the house without drinking it all in one go then you shouldn't drink at all.

JustAThought · 27-09-2015 10:59PM

I am drinking my stash of wine while reading this & now secretly panicking that it will not be enough & I will want more & be firced to drink the cooking sherry or ricewine when I am finished. Ffs. This is not Germany - I should not have to get permits & permission & plan a shopping day in afvance what , where & how much I will want to drink. Ffs.
Pass the port. What do you mean we're out? What time is it...

Trond · 28-09-2015 11:19AM

JustAThought wrote: »

I am drinking my stash of wine while reading this & now secretly panicking that it will not be enough & I will want more & be firced to drink the cooking sherry or ricewine when I am finished. Ffs. This is not Germany - I should not have to get permits & permission & plan a shopping day in afvance what , where & how much I will want to drink. Ffs.
Pass the port. What do you mean we're out? What time is it...

I take it you haven't been to Germany then!!!

DeanAustin · 28-09-2015 11:21AM

Haznat wrote: »

Hating poor people is what makes him a scumbag.

Go on, I'll take the bait. How does he "hate poor people"?

Lord PuppyMcSnuggle of Cuddleshire · 28-09-2015 11:43AM

JumpShivers wrote: »

And to those of you who say that I should plan ahead, it's not always that simple.

Yes it is. It's exactly that simple, every time.

JumpShivers wrote: »

What if you are with friends at home late in the evening and you decide that you want a few cans?

You go to your drink stash and take out some cans.

JumpShivers wrote: »

Or you are finishing a late shift in work and decide a nice bottle of wine would be nice that evening.

You go to your drink stash and pull out a nice bottle of wine.

You're responsible for creating your own drink stash. "Please drink responsibly", it even says it on the cans.

VisibleGorilla · 28-09-2015 11:52AM

Rules like these do my head in.

I'm a grown adult, I don't need the government deciding for me when I am able to drink or not.

Alcohol should be available for purchase 24/7.

topper75 · 28-09-2015 02:04PM

doolox wrote: »

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It is a really stupid rule imposed on people by that right wing PD rat McDowell because of public order issues among the unwashed masses.

Right wing folks are also supposed to champion in personal freedom. So maybe the PDs were just dim.

As dim as the left-wingers who strove for the marriage equality thing and and are now keen to take in a huge group of muslim folks.

NachoBusiness · 28-09-2015 02:22PM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

If there's a logically sound argument against having 24/7/365 alcohol sales I'd like to hear it.

Could cause unruly behavior late at night on stagecoaches.

jimgoose · 28-09-2015 02:30PM

This no-booze-after-10pm business falls firmly into the category "We must do Something, This is Something, therefore we must do This". It has about as much effect on alcohol abuse as tits on a bull, but clodhopper politicians get to look like they have a social conscience and are capable of action, and the only downside is presenting people like me with the decidedly First-World problem of discovering that I fancy a half-carafe of Sancerre at about 10:15 on a Saturday night only to remember that the sodding off-license is closed. :pac:

melissak · 28-09-2015 02:38PM

I think it is a stupid rule that makes no sense whatsoever. Never heard of dial a drink before but if it is what it sounds like it is an excellent idea.

JumpShivers · 28-09-2015 10:41PM

So one should be organised and plan ahead. But things do happen, you forget to buy stuff. You go to a friends house for a chat, feel like a drink, but there's nowhere to get one.

Why should an adult over the age of 18, the legal purchasing age, not be able to buy alcohol at any time (shop opening hours permitting). We can purchase anything else.

Why is alcohol so bad? One shouldn't have to 'plan ahead'. As a legal adult, there should be the choice to purchase cans/bottles etc, when the needs be.

ceadaoin. · 28-09-2015 11:36PM

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colossus-x wrote: »

It's to discourage late night parties that follow through to the morning and afternoon. ie the late drinkers may go to bed instead of staying up till morning to carry on when the shops open.

Your right though, it is mean to someone who hasn't been out the night before and wants to get something in at say 10am.

Unfortunately more then ever young people are not drinking responsibly and late night parties are getting more prevalent. They cause all sorts of problems especially for older people with noise pollution and something has to be done about it.

It's not a policy that's interned to be a killjoy. Well except for the late night party-goers.

No, it was designed to force people into the pubs. I'm pretty sure I remember the vintners association being behind it. Instead of simply lowering the price of booze in pubs, which was the main reason pub attendance was dropping, they decided to stifle the competition.

Nichard Dixon · 28-09-2015 11:41PM

loyatemu wrote: »

On a Sunday I can't buy one until midday ffs. Why not? Am I supposed to be in mass?

If you head down to a service in the Church of Ireland they might give you wine, if you are that badly stuck for a drink.

rubadub · 28-09-2015 11:47PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

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No, it was designed to force people into the pubs. I'm pretty sure I remember the vintners association being behind it.

Restaurants are struggling too, imagine they banned the sale of food after 7pm. The time should not even matter.

I was asking another poster, and would like to hear from others who see no problem with this -would you still have no problem or think its no big deal if it shifted 12hours and was 10:30pm to 10am when it was available. Or would this possibly be an unacceptable invonvenience to you, if so you presumably don't give a flying fuck about people who might work in a shift 12hours offset from yours?

PTH2009 · 29-09-2015 12:26AM

whats the big deal made out of good friday ???.

its house party galore that night all over ireland. are people going to die if they dont get pissed on friday nights because the pubs are closed. Not everyone goes out friday nights

Azalea · 29-09-2015 12:30AM

People who aren't practising catholics just want to have the option to go out on a Friday night should the fancy take them, to meet e.g. friends visiting from abroad etc. It's not about getting pissed. As you say, they could just do that at a house party.

asherbassad · 29-09-2015 01:29AM

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Don't really see an issue with the rule, 10pm is reasonable.

So do you think in other more enlightened and advanced European countries that a later hour is unreasonable?

Lying on the sofa on a Friday night in Holland or Germany with your missus watching a movie...1230 am...."Is that the last beer?", "Yeah"......."Nip accross to the night shop and get a few more. Get milk too and eggs for brekky. Feckit get a wine too. I'll pause the film"

Alcohol off sales ater 10 PM rule.

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