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Cork GAA Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,369 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    Best of luck to the ladies today


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 35,010 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Glorious day for it, sun is shining and a big crowd is expected. With 4 making their final debuts, I hope they have dream debuts and bring home another title.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 35,010 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Glen. 0-18 v 1-12 Midleton


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,025 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    ShamoBuc wrote: »
    Glen. 0-18 v 1-12 Midleton

    Is that a full time result ?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 35,010 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Is that a full time result ?

    Yes


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 35,010 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Ht Cork 0-05 V 0-05 Dublin.

    Very even first half. Cork giving away a lot of frees but their free taker missed a few. Mulcahy hasn't been at her best, with 3 bad misses.
    We need to get Áine O'Sullivan into the game more, which is hard as they are playing with an extra defender, in a far better position than ht last year, the first goal will be Huge!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 35,010 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Cork 0-12 v 0-10 Dublin


    All Ireland Champions !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Super game by 2 very good teams but Cork started the second half very well and built up a lead they would never surrender!
    Cork subs made huge impact, Scally in particular!!!

    What a team!!
    Back to back doubles !!!
    5 All Irelands in a row - again!!
    10 All Irelands in 11 years!!!!
    Simply the best Cork GAA team I have ever had the pleasure of watching!

    31,083, a record attendance for a ladies sporting occasion in Europe this year!!!
    Take a bow , Cork ladies, yet again!!!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    Nerve racking finish but yet again they saw it through. Mighty stuff. Rebels Abu.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 35,010 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Finished a draw between SARS and Erin's own 0-16 v 1-13


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭The White Feather


    Fantastic result today for the ladies!

    They truly are a remarkable team. Scally coming on nudged us over the line in a few key moments.

    A word has to be said about the ref today. He gave a lot of questionable frees. A lot seemed just like the rough and tumble of a match and he should have left play continue. He seemed to give Dublin a load of frees especially but they kept missing. So thats down to them.

    The only point where he seemed to go the other way was at the end. He took ages to write the cork player in his book and give a yellow card when Dublin wanted to get on with it.

    Make no mistake though, Cork were better overall. The Cork interplay was exceptional whereas Dublin seemed to run a lot with the ball into trouble and then there was no one to lay the ball off to.

    The Ladies are great role models for all in Cork and all over the country.Best team I have ever seen in the way they all work for each other.

    A great day to be a Rebel!!!!!!!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭Hurleratheart


    ShamoBuc wrote: »
    Glen. 0-18 v 1-12 Midleton

    Great result for glen wellworth the win
    Dominated completly first 15 of secong half and drove on
    shoukd have converted goal chances though
    Hopefully better showing in final than last year


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 35,010 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Great result for glen wellworth the win
    Dominated completly first 15 of secong half and drove on
    shoukd have converted goal chances though
    Hopefully better showing in final than last year

    Very true, deserved the win. The extra game will surely help SARS/Erin's own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭N20


    Some good results for cork there
    The surprise was ag loosing





    Im amazed at this comment and if anyone else made it you would berate them

    2 losses in Munster A and 3 losses in Munster B

    Of the 8 schools involved last week 3 left standing, and these will be the Harty contenders in 2 years time - I think these are desperate results from a cork perspective

    Charleville have Thurles next week in Dean Ryan and winners play Midleton at q/f stage With winners of ASR/ Kilmallock i think in semi
    Given Corks dominance of underage tournaments this year it will be interesting to see if this can be borne out by Midleton or Charleville coming through these stages


    Harty starting up in coming weeks
    8 Cork teams
    3 Limerick
    2 Waterford
    4 Tipperary
    1 Clare

    3 dual schools Rochestown, Clonmel & Flannans
    Very very difficult to do both if aspirations to win as Rochestown discovered last year

    Kerry dominate the weight of schools in Corn Ui Mhuiri with 7 schools
    6 Cork
    2 Tipp
    1 Clare

    Tellingly no Waterford or Limerick team

    I feel opening round is crucial, winning your first game vital as a platform to come out of group

    some interesting games ahead


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭N20


    ShamoBuc wrote: »
    Cork 0-12 v 0-10 Dublin


    All Ireland Champions !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Super game by 2 very good teams but Cork started the second half very well and built up a lead they would never surrender!
    Cork subs made huge impact, Scally in particular!!!

    What a team!!
    Back to back doubles !!!
    5 All Irelands in a row - again!!
    10 All Irelands in 11 years!!!!
    Simply the best Cork GAA team I have ever had the pleasure of watching!

    31,083, a record attendance for a ladies sporting occasion in Europe this year!!!
    Take a bow , Cork ladies, yet again!!!!!!!!!

    Well done to Cork Ladies - unbelievable stuff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭willietherock


    Great result for glen wellworth the win
    Dominated completly first 15 of secong half and drove on
    shoukd have converted goal chances though
    Hopefully better showing in final than last year

    Great stuff from the Glen. Left 2 or 3 goals after them. Midleton pretty ordinary without Lehane. They looked totally over coached. Hopefully the final is on in 2 wks time and Sars will be out 3 wks on the trot. Glen karma for being in the same situation last yr.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    In relation to the post regards my comment regards cork school some results doing well that's exactly what I meant.
    No way did I try and say it was magnificent but some is the word i used and I suggest the definition of some a few but not all. I said some which means a few results were good but no way did I mean al, primarily some being midelton winning and Hamilton and Christ ri in the b side
    Not every cork school will win
    The key is to have a cork side in as many final as possible in as many grades as possible

    Overall the dean Ryan cup with midelton winning was the key in they have a realistic chances of winning it and like I said ag was a surprise loss
    The other results in the b competition two cork teams played one another so always going to be a looser

    I agree the key is the harty cup in the coming months and I agree a good start is vital in the harty cup.
    I would expect cork schools to do well this year again and some have already begun training.
    It doesn't imo make a difference what cork school wins the harty or the style of play they play in once cork win a harty cup is all that matters.
    After last year excellent season by Douglas hopefully a cork school will win it this year.

    Cork so far have a realistic chances of a dean Ryan cup with either charville or midelton so far it's not being as bad as some think it is cork school results.
    It does not matter whether it's east north south or west school wins a dean Ryan cup once at least a cork team get to the final and remain competitive it means cork are sustainable standards in consistently which have done the last few years in the dean Ryan cup


    As regards the ladies a wonderful epic truly magnificent absoultey magnificent achievement in winning the five in a row something even kerry senior men and kk have struggled to do however I would imagine kk as shefflin alluded to this week the five in a row kk will seriously rattle it in the future.


    I had said cork would beat kerry easily weeks ago and understandable so it seemed arrogance and say cork would beat Dublin and once cork beat kk ladies camoige I said cork would win v Dublin and I had no doubt absoultey no doubt at all even when it was close I always knew cork would win as just like kerry and Dublin as I said many times cork have well and truly those teams number and those team will not beat Cork while Ryan in charge.
    It honestly was not arrogance but Cork ladies are a team where there the closest thing you can have in being almost certain they will win all ireland finals.

    Mcgongile in some pundits eyes is a good coach but he lost three finals to cork now with Dublin and monaghan and imo highly unlikely he will ever out think ryan in an all ireland final.
    .

    When the need is greatest and the pressure is on and you need the great great really really i mean the really great warrior players of want hunger ruthless execution, coolness personified, immense self belive, huge resolve no team in ireland outside kk senior hurling team that equal cork ladies football.
    They were only ever going to beat themselves in no team at present can beat them when championship matters.
    They may loose meaningless league games but in all ireland final this team rarely looses
    Loosing all ireland final cork ladies football is like oil and water it's immisicble in it doesn't mix well.
    Cork ladies football dna doesn't allow them to loose finals.
    Even today and I was thinking cork weren't great by previous standards of themselves they still do enough


    I was delighted to be in Croke park to witness with out doubt cork greatest ever gaa team and Eammon Ryan what a manager what a manager.

    Stack, barret, scally, corkery and reilly particularly were immense.
    Mulchay had a poor day by her standards however it's only poor in she normally so great but I felt she still had a brilliant game in moments when she still got vital crucial scores particularly after half time two vital point to give cork a lead.
    She worked very hard and never gave up. When the need was greatest this great player got crucial frees.

    Today buckley and corkery equalled the record of sixteen all ireland i have no doubt particular corkery will be back next year and at least win one if not two more medal in camoige and football.

    The sullivans particularly doireann were magnificent.
    It's hard to see any team stop cork next year bar Galway imo.
    Dublin had a few new players and immense credit they never gave up and have given a great performance but dublin have lost to cork too many all ireland final they need new management next year imo
    With the minor talent coming through, and even though cork lost the under twenty one all ireland you would think cork will still be a force the next few years.
    While Dublin won the title they are coming in to a senior team trying to break cork dominating where as Cork lost the under twenty one cork young talent are coming in to a culture developed by Ryan that are used to winning.

    Unfortunately I wasn't at the hurling senior county semi final as the ladies was priority today.
    No real shock midelton lost when lehane didn't play any part and while I felt a fully fit midelton were cork best chance in munster I certainly would not begrudge the glen winning and it's great they are in a final in its good for city hurling which is good for cork
    I would hope the glen win it outright as I felt the glen were not that bad last year but too many games in successive weeks made them tired
    It interesting Sarsfields if they win the replay could suffer tiredness like the glen last year and i think the glen will beat Sarsfields should they meet this time
    The glen have good coaches and good young talent coming up.
    All credit due to them on a good victory.
    I'm not sure they would win a munster this year in winning the county with such an absence of winning it i think that would take a lot out of them this year

    Erins own drawing with sars fair play to them

    It's a pity they didn't win as nothing against sars but imo cork hurling needs a change and a new winner
    You would imagine erins own will find it hard to win the replay but credit to Martin bowen a previous county winning management and a good manager for doing good work in he's come back term with them
    Anyone stand out in this game? from a cork view point in the view of anyone that was at it today.

    It seems jack sheehan was a big loss for them
    The final word has to go the cork ladies as there really is no words or adjectives that actually do this phenomenonal management and panel justice in there truly an absolutely awesome outfit.
    There imo will hardly ever be a team like them in ladies gaelic-games again and the only team to beat there records are indeed themselves.
    I can't wait for the home coming.
    Well done to them.
    Another chapter of legacy of success written in stone today and it all began when they had the honesty to demand better standards and demand new management when up to then they were being well beaten in games
    How fitting cork won the tenth today considering 05 was there first.
    Every one of them and Ryan should be given freedom of cork city.
    Cork ladies leading the way in gaa in cork.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 347 ✭✭commonsense.


    Great stuff from the Glen. Left 2 or 3 goals after them. Midleton pretty ordinary without Lehane. They looked totally over coached. Hopefully the final is on in 2 wks time and Sars will be out 3 wks on the trot. Glen karma for being in the same situation last yr.


    I see the point you're making but to be honest I think 3 weeks in a row isn't bad preparation for a county final. Injury might be an issue but sure that could happen training. Hopefully The Glen can do it and raise a flag for city hurling. Wouldn't be too confident though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/not-pretty-but-pretty-amazing-nonetheless-356238.html

    The great thing about this game was as foley in sunday paper yesterday ran with the headlines Dublin win ugly and playing smart football like like last sunday all ireland final he was talking about cork ladies football imo cork done exactly the same yesterday and that a credit to Ryan genius of a football brain

    Cork yesterday played a system of sweeper as they had to
    We saw cork senior football team mens game apparently do blanket defence but in truth it was just defence by numbers really and truly as none of the defenders actually knew there role or were coached effectively how to do it


    Cork ladies yesterday they didn't just defend in numbers the end justified the means
    They defended in numbers but there was a purpose and a link to it and they played smart intelligent posession game

    As moyinhan correctly said cork didn't play particularly great by previous standards but showed remarkable trade mark imo they can play below there own standard and still beat everyone in the country

    Like kk when shefflin went people worried about Juliet Murphy loss
    Two all ireland with out the greatest ever cork football ladies players imo shows cork will survive even if a few retire

    The concern would be if Ryan left however I would think he would have a major say in who the next management is as he's worked so hard to build a legacy he should have a huge role in advising new management if he goes
    Hopefully he'll stay


    No big words or fancy phrases with Ryan like some others who were hyped up but had no success but just down to earth absoultey fantastic manager


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭willietherock


    I see the point you're making but to be honest I think 3 weeks in a row isn't bad preparation for a county final. Injury might be an issue but sure that could happen training. Hopefully The Glen can do it and raise a flag for city hurling. Wouldn't be too confident though.

    I guess it depends on how tough a game it will be. At the v least your expect Erins Own to lower the blades on Sars if the game is away from them.
    There is something about Sars style, lose ballplayers spraying passes around the place instead of getting stuck in which mirrors the softness of Cork hurling. The Glen may have only two scoring forwards but there an honesty in the tackle which is missing in Cork hurling.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    http://www.the42.ie/briege-corkery-rena-buckley-2355279-Sep2015/
    Super stars
    There saying there's good news for Dublin in mcgongile is staying on as Dublin management
    I hope he stays as that's great for cork imo
    He's a good manager to an extent and has huge success in clubs and counties but Cork have beaten he's team in three finals in they know how he's team play and like kk with tipperary's hurling and Galway under cunningjham it's not those coaches are poor it's just like cody in kk and Ryan cork they know how to beat them
    You would think Dublin with the same management it's hard to see them beating cork

    They have tried two different style of play in the Kevin keegan all out attack last year and the defence yesterday and Cork have coped with both
    Like cody of kk only when Ryan retires does they imo offer others a chance to break there dominance
    In one sense it would have been great for ladies game if Dublin won but Cork can't be faulted for trying to win every year
    One more and there top of the roll of honour


    Ryan has done what Alex ferguson and cody has done he has almost single handedly taken he's team to the top of the roll of honour like cody done with kk and ferguson done with united and premiership
    It's an unbelievable achievement


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,299 ✭✭✭slingerz


    Breige Corkery = superstar

    9 Football All Stars and a 10th is surely in the post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭N20


    Result from Dean Ryan today

    @Munsterpps: Dean Ryan Cup Under 16.5 A Hurling Result - Thurles CBS 2-22 Charleville CBS 1-7

    Fairly comprehensive defeat and Thurles play Midleton next
    Very disappointing, would have Charleville been far more competitive than that

    I know Dean Ryan starts early and sometimes teams can be caught if not focussed or organised

    TTM Douglas CS compete in grade C I think not Harty - Do you think maybe you mean Rochestown College ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭N20


    I guess it depends on how tough a game it will be. At the v least your expect Erins Own to lower the blades on Sars if the game is away from them.
    There is something about Sars style, lose ballplayers spraying passes around the place instead of getting stuck in which mirrors the softness of Cork hurling. The Glen may have only two scoring forwards but there an honesty in the tackle which is missing in Cork hurling.

    The goal chances missed must be a worry for glen, 2 scorching runs through the middle one from Hoggy, one from Mcdonnell both witha smell of goal off them resulting in no score - and no 8 for Glen had a chance to bury the game with 5 mins to go and fluffed it.

    Having said that overall theGlen played with a higher intensity for longer than Midleton - midleton only finally Looked dangerous when O Shea came on and time was running out. Good few rmblings about Wallace, questions over team selection etc rumours hes heading back to Limerick ???? Dont think hes done his cork managerial aspirations much good

    Speaking of which Kilmallock dethroned and out - there will be a new Limerick and new Munster club champions this year


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭Andre 3000


    Any chance of Conor Dorris ever getting a call up to the Cork Seniors?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭willietherock


    Andre 3000 wrote: »
    Any chance of Conor Dorris ever getting a call up to the Cork Seniors?

    Hello Conor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 481 ✭✭clerk


    Andre 3000 wrote: »
    Any chance of Conor Dorris ever getting a call up to the Cork Seniors?

    Yeah, 3 points from play and the supply wasn't great at times. Is a very consistent scorer.

    I was actually wondering that myself as well to be honest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭Andre 3000


    Hello Conor.

    Ha I wish. But no Dorris has been a superb forward for the Glen, sometimes outshining Horgan, which I know can happen easy but to be fair to Dorris he has looked absolutely class. I remember a few years back Dorris was consistently racking up four or five points from play easy each game. He then got quitter and scored less but seems to have gotten back in the groove. Any time I have seen him play I have been impressed with his all round play as well as his scoring. Seems like a lad who should be given a chance anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Dorris captained the glen county under twenty one winning team around six years ago and actually played for cork in the b team in the strikes.
    He's fast, skilful and certainly on the form of the last five county championship is scoring.
    The question is is he's better than what's available.

    Cork have lehane, paudie, horgan when he has a good day all ahead of him.Cadogan also.
    Anthony Spillane needs games and jbm rated him hugely he said however he didn't actually give him much game time.
    Luke meade is imo a better option as he's the best player in cork as a sweeper forward come midfield type player etc as having developed that role under the Hamilton cbs system he's excellent at it
    Dayne lee should get more games this year.

    The likes of Moylan and luke farell all have talent but have dropped off hugely and Darren mccarthy while a forward of good standard in club isn't an inter county forward and never was.

    He certainly would deserve a few waterford crystal cup games to see he's standards
    However more importantly to cork imo is the introduction of John Cronin, wille Leahy Kevin o Neill as there ball winners that cork need
    If pa Callaghan played senior it would limit dorris chance imo.
    I think it's hard to see dorris starting as not that he's a poor player far from it but the type of players he is cork have a lot like him and imo better than him but could be a sub.
    But cork dont need fast skilful ball players in we need strong direct forceful good in the air type of hurlers who can run and break the tackle.
    The one thing I'll give dorris credit for is he's always performing for club and he outscored horgan from play yesterday.
    Horgan has to deliver a huge county final performance as the last two finals imo he hasn't performed to the standard to justify he's outstanding talents.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Andre 3000 wrote: »
    Ha I wish. But no Dorris has been a superb forward for the Glen, sometimes outshining Horgan, which I know can happen easy but to be fair to Dorris he has looked absolutely class. I remember a few years back Dorris was consistently racking up four or five points from play easy each game. He then got quitter and scored less but seems to have gotten back in the groove. Any time I have seen him play I have been impressed with his all round play as well as his scoring. Seems like a lad who should be given a chance anyway.
    Horgan leading the scoring chances in cork championship again however what is often lost in translation is horgan most of he's scores are frees and not from play
    An outstanding free taker but can be prone to miss crucial ones and the best talent hurler in cork but not consistently from play and he's club scoring from play is actually poor enough when you look at the last few years
    He still could be scoring way more from play for he's club with the talent he has.


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