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Dairy Chit Chat- Please read Mod note in post #1

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 MrMuscles96


    Any tips for someone starting work on a dairy farm this weekend? milking bout 200 cows, herringbone set up

    All replies appreciated :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Any tips for someone starting work on a dairy farm this weekend? milking bout 200 cows, herringbone set up

    All replies appreciated :)

    Do not be late
    Bring wet gear
    Listen
    Ask questions if unsure
    Do not arrive in white runners
    Wire into the milking
    Ask what they need done each day
    Pay attention to routine and get on with it without being asked
    Be tidy
    Keep you hands out of your pocket
    Do not use your phone for personal shyte
    Never talk about the farm outside of work


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Do not be late
    Bring wet gear
    Listen
    Ask questions if unsure
    Do not arrive in white runners
    Wire into the milking
    Ask what they need done each day
    Pay attention to routine and get on with it without being asked
    Be tidy
    Keep you hands out of your pocket
    Do not use your phone for personal shyte
    Never talk about the farm outside of work

    Have a healthy amount of paranoia while milking, always ask how many and what cows are to be kept out of the tank and why. Always check the bulk tank is cooling after milking, put your keys on the bulk tank to help remind you to do this ha.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭visatorro


    Jesus a fella landed here one day wearing runners, I thought he'd maybe just say hello before togging out. no, couldn't believe it.
    one bit of advice is don't take dogs abuse of the lad anyway. if you work hard and do what's asked and you still get abuse walk away. fella beside me milking 400 cows is an absolute bastard. can't keep lads with him at all. money wouldn't pay you to listen to that. respect is earned obviously but works both ways


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Deepsouthwest


    Any tips for someone starting work on a dairy farm this weekend? milking bout 200 cows, herringbone set up

    All replies appreciated :)

    The fact that ur even asking these questions and trying to prepare for it says a lot to me about u already. Ur eager and u'll be fine.
    Keep the phone in ur pocket, and what happens on the farm stays on the farm would be my top two rules,just wish I could enforce them here!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    I need to pickup afew more watertroughs, most are 140 or 150gls here now, I'll be pushing up about 120 cows in a yr or so, will more of the same do or should I be going larger? Water pressure is decent here, but still a fair bit of 3/4 inch pipe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,705 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Timmaay wrote: »
    I need to pickup afew more watertroughs, most are 140 or 150gls here now, I'll be pushing up about 120 cows in a yr or so, will more of the same do or should I be going larger? Water pressure is decent here, but still a fair bit of 3/4 inch pipe.

    Should be fine with fast flow valves Tim,have180/ 250 gallon troughs in most paddocks with them and only 1/2 inch pipe going to them .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭mf240


    Timmaay wrote: »
    I need to pickup afew more watertroughs, most are 140 or 150gls here now, I'll be pushing up about 120 cows in a yr or so, will more of the same do or should I be going larger? Water pressure is decent here, but still a fair bit of 3/4 inch pipe.

    Have you drinkers in the yard ?

    You could go bigger the further away from the yard you go. You could also pit two smaller ones in one paddock if you didnt want to waste them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 MrMuscles96


    Thanks lads, I bought a separate pair of wellingtons and wet gear in the co-op just for the farm. Thought it'd look good that I know about disease control and theres the possibility I'll be there for the year so be handy to have a set there and at home.

    @Timmaay: Theres usually a white board on the top of the parlour from some of the farms iv visited, that tells you what cows need to have their milk held for what ever reason, or cows for drying off?

    @Vistorro: He seemed pretty chilled on the phone even when I told him I had pretty much no experience told me he'd train me up and when I get used to the place he'd give me abit of responsibility. working on my own etc.

    @Deepsouthwest: I am eager to learn was suppose to start on the 14th but the farmer said the course wouldn't suit his set up :( the new farm is over 5 hours away from home leaving early sat starting in the evening, I want to be well prepared so I won't be running about the place down there trying to get stuff together.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Do not be late
    Bring wet gear
    Listen
    Ask questions if unsure
    Do not arrive in white runners
    Wire into the milking
    Ask what they need done each day
    Pay attention to routine and get on with it without being asked
    Be tidy
    Keep you hands out of your pocket
    Do not use your phone for personal shyte
    Never talk about the farm outside of work
    Dont scream and beat the s**t out of the cows regularly


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,750 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Check dairy when the first row goes out. Ask questions if you dont understand whats going on. Dont ask "what will i do next" theres always something to be done. If you break something , tell someone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Timmaay wrote: »
    I need to pickup afew more watertroughs, most are 140 or 150gls here now, I'll be pushing up about 120 cows in a yr or so, will more of the same do or should I be going larger? Water pressure is decent here, but still a fair bit of 3/4 inch pipe.

    Stick with the troughs almost regardless of how many cows you go to but change the pipe. Inch and a half can be bought for around a euro per metre. Fittings are a bit pricey. I remain to be convinced by the guys trying to reinvent the wheel with their "loops" don't get suckered in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,124 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    See on agriland the farmer that was caught up in the clongowes scandal got away almost Scott - free, only had to pay the superlevy on milk supplied through the clongowes quota by the letter of the law he should of been fined his total quota aswell, must be great to have that much pull, a normal guy would of been hung out to dry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,705 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    jaymla627 wrote: »
    See on agriland the farmer that was caught up in the clongowes scandal got away almost Scott - free, only had to pay the superlevy on milk supplied through the clongowes quota by the letter of the law he should of been fined his total quota aswell, must be great to have that much pull, a normal guy would of been hung out to dry

    Agree ,if that was a small supplier I'd bet a lot more would of been heard and done about it .the fact that it was a LARGE supplier speaks volumes .stunks of double standards ,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Agree ,if that was a small supplier I'd bet a lot more would of been heard and done about it .the fact that it was a LARGE supplier speaks volumes .stunks of double standards ,

    Opinion!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,705 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Opinion!!!!!

    Yep it's my opinion ,read bits and prices about it in various other places at breakfast this am and I think Glanbia need to disclose exactly what went on to its suppliers/shareholders considering it's very close links to a prominent place within its ranks .all brushed under carpet too quickly and quietly .not wanting to hang the culprit out to dry or anything but he got away rather lightly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭RightTurnClyde


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    European milk output


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Deepsouthwest


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    European milk output

    And all along we being told only Ireland and v few others would increase production post quota. Looks there like there's a serious increase right across the board already, with the real increase coming from now on with no drying off early cos of quota and full on production from the day the cows start calving next spring.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Yep it's my opinion ,read bits and prices about it in various other places at breakfast this am and I think Glanbia need to disclose exactly what went on to its suppliers/shareholders considering it's very close links to a prominent place within its ranks .all brushed under carpet too quickly and quietly .not wanting to hang the culprit out to dry or anything but he got away rather lightly

    Yea, we need a tribunal a good Irish solution or maybe a good old fashioned lynching


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,705 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Yea, we need a tribunal a good Irish solution or maybe a good old fashioned lynching

    So your happy this lad escapes with more or less a slap on the wrist and forget about .a typical irish response .theres lads out there doing their best and getting chunks knocked of their sfp for fairly minor compliance issues in comparison to this .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 532 ✭✭✭wats the craic


    Yea, we need a tribunal a good Irish solution or maybe a good old fashioned lynching

    or just hang him up by the balls and beat him to death ......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    So your happy this lad escapes with more or less a slap on the wrist and forget about .a typical irish response .theres lads out there doing their best and getting chunks knocked of their sfp for fairly minor compliance issues in comparison to this .

    Wheather I'm happy or not is irrevelant but not having the full facts doesn't lend to conclusion jumping


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,705 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Wheather I'm happy or not is irrevelant but not having the full facts doesn't lend to conclusion jumping

    I e read the Report on agriland ,amongst others .thats that's the story reported by dept .some irregularities insufficient evidence bla bla bla ,maby you know more but sounds like a cover up to me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    And all along we being told only Ireland and v few others would increase production post quota. Looks there like there's a serious increase right across the board already, with the real increase coming from now on with no drying off early cos of quota and full on production from the day the cows start calving next spring.

    Contrary to what the talk of supermarket monopolies etc. would suggest, I suspect that the local liquid milk market is typically moderately profitable for the farmers supplying it. It's the surplus milk which must go out at whatever the world commodity market will pay for it.

    The removal of quotas in Europe was always going to ensure that local liquid markets were in a state of continuous over-supply, albeit that might mean only a small percentage increase in production.

    Put yourself in the position of an English or German supplier (or a US farm for that matter) with liquid milk at (say) 35c and commodity milk at - say - 20c. You'll always supply all of the 35c milk, but how quickly you pull back from the surplus litres will depend on how much you are losing on each of them. When feed and diesel are relatively cheap, cows already in place & housed etc., and every litre contributing to fixed costs, the cheaper litres aren't felt as hard as they are in Ireland where virtually the whole production sells at the lower price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    Never much liked that cubicle shed anyway.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Do any 9f you give the ai man/women a buzz to let them know your empty rate?
    Did it here this yr and he was delighted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Anyone know what does foot baths that are like a sponge mat like?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,705 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Do any 9f you give the ai man/women a buzz to let them know your empty rate?
    Did it here this yr and he was delighted

    Ai man also scan man here .pregenancy rates around here are generally very good this year according to him.hes putting it down to better grass management and lads feeding cows better


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,124 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Ai man also scan man here .pregenancy rates around here are generally very good this year according to him.hes putting it down to better grass management and lads feeding cows better

    93% incalf rate here between cows and heifers, only sore points where 3 first calvers that got messed up calving due to big calves that turned up empty, and 2 heifers that where incalf but aborted due to neospora....
    Only 1 empty cow from 2nd lactation up, and got 70% 1st service to sexed semen with heifers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Deepsouthwest


    jaymla627 wrote: »
    93% incalf rate here between cows and heifers, only sore points where 3 first calvers that got messed up calving due to big calves that turned up empty, and 2 heifers that where incalf but aborted due to neospora....
    Only 1 empty cow from 2nd lactation up, and got 70% 1st service to sexed semen with heifers
    Serious results there Jay, u must be things v right, take a bow!


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