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Brother of Winning Streak contestant shot dead

  • 25-09-2015 07:45AM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 30


    A brother of the young lad who was on Winning Streak last Saturday night has been shot dead in spain.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    At least it wasn't the brother of the fella that was on Winning Street.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    He played The Gangster Roulette, and lost!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭Ally Dick


    Probably executed by another dodgy Irish ex pat. It's not a life I'd choose. Gardai telling you there is a threat to your life..and then not bothering to defend you. In Spain you've less chance of help too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    Ally Dick wrote:
    Probably executed by another dodgy Irish ex pat. It's not a life I'd choose. Gardai telling you there is a threat to your life..and then not bothering to defend you. In Spain you've less chance of help too

    I really don't think it's down to the guards to defend you from your fellow criminals. Not when you're probably every bit as bad as they are. They have better things to be doing. And sure those fellas only go to Spain to live a great life on their ill gotten gains and evade the law.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    Nah when you get involved in that lifestyle it's like Russian roulette. It's decent ordinary citizens that need protection. The guards aren't personal bodyguards for criminals


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭Hitchens


    Quickly throws bag of popcorn into microwave :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭macnug


    It was his cousin not his brother.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,987 ✭✭✭Tilly


    Ally Dick wrote: »
    Probably executed by another dodgy Irish ex pat. It's not a life I'd choose. Gardai telling you there is a threat to your life..and then not bothering to defend you. In Spain you've less chance of help too
    Why on earth would our guards (or any police) try and protect criminals?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭Ally Dick


    Tilly wrote: »
    Why on earth would our guards (or any police) try and protect criminals?

    Because look what you have now. Lazy policing. Omertas being carried out in housing estates in Tallaght and Clondalkin. It's the broken window theory. Leave a broken window in an estate unrepaired, and the whole estate goes to sh!t very quickly. The gardai need to pursue the whole of the law, or you end up with anarchy. It's not about protecting criminals per se. It's about doing all of their job and not letting criminals roam the cities with guns, going on missions to kill people


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    Nah when you get involved in that lifestyle it's like Russian roulette. It's decent ordinary citizens that need protection. The guards aren't personal bodyguards for criminals

    I see your point but the gardai have a responsibility to protect everybody.
    They have a duty to all citizens. they can't just judge somebody.
    If they don't protect everybody regardless of status you can chaos and the risk that a targets wife / kids or others get hurt too.

    what gets me is you know people are after you and you still live in the same house and do your thing as usual.

    I was at a party once , rough sort of party. one fella was there with a vest on , sweating like a mad fella but refused to take it off. Can't have been pleasant for him. Was told people were after him.
    seemed pleasant of a chap enough but there were about 50 people in the house and the door was open , I hardly knew anybody. If I was worried about my safety I wouldn't be there but I guess one must party.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    The Gardai do offer protection and advice. More often than not they are told to **** off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    macnug wrote: »
    It was his cousin not his brother.

    He ain't heavy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,252 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    why would the Garda be protecting someone over in Spain ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    The gardai have a duty first and foremost to protect the people who haven't brought any trouble on themselves. They have a duty to protect young impressionable kids from these scrotes dealing drugs. They have a duty to protect elderly people from being afraid to stay in their own homes on their own. They have a duty to protect people going about their daily business from being attacked or harmed in anyway.

    When you live by the sword, you can't complain when the sword kills you. Why should a member of the gardai (unarmed as they are) put themselves in dangers way, trying to protect someone who would think NOTHING about lodging a bullet in someone else over a drug debt/stupid feud. If they're big and tough enough to intimidate others, then let them deal with the consequences


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    I find myself overcome with indifference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,925 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    He went to Spain for a little chat, thought he could relax....no ratsssssssss


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    omg so sad cant stop cryin so sad sleep wit the angles hun rip havent stoped cryin all day lol xx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭jamesbere


    No sympathy at all for this fella, if this is the way he wanted to lead his life then there is always the possibility his life would be in danger


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    RayM wrote: »
    omg so sad cant stop cryin so sad sleep wit the angles hun rip havent stoped cryin all day lol xx


    Dnt worri hun he's gt d best bed in hevin x


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Dnt worri hun he's gt d best bed in hevin x

    God only takes de best ones.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    The Gardai do offer protection and advice. More often than not they are told to **** off.


    Often heard it said they refused Garda protection.

    What criminal wants Guards following them around in fairness,they'd be a laughing stock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭Ally Dick


    Did he get a cut of the Winning Streak money?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    RIP

    Condolences to his family xxx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,291 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    saying he's a relation of a winning streak contestant is burying the lead a little


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    I find it amazing that people reference TV shows for things like this.

    "The man whose cousin once appeared as a book reviewer on the Late Late Toy Show as a child was shot twice outside his house."

    "The woman, who once went to school with that woman who filled in for the girl that used to be on Off the Rails while she was out on maternity leave, was arrested and charged with two counts of smuggling cocaine."

    "The teenager, who was taught in the very same school that the cousin of Marty Whelan attended, was taken into custody early this morning."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    The gardai have a duty first and foremost to protect the people who haven't brought any trouble on themselves. They have a duty to protect young impressionable kids from these scrotes dealing drugs. They have a duty to protect elderly people from being afraid to stay in their own homes on their own. They have a duty to protect people going about their daily business from being attacked or harmed in anyway.

    When you live by the sword, you can't complain when the sword kills you. Why should a member of the gardai (unarmed as they are) put themselves in dangers way, trying to protect someone who would think NOTHING about lodging a bullet in someone else over a drug debt/stupid feud. If they're big and tough enough to intimidate others, then let them deal with the consequences

    We don't leave it to the Gardai to decide who they are and are not going to protect.

    Now I wouldn't suggest that the AGS do it but there are a couple of PR techniques that I've seen Police in UK do. Someone is killed and there's a bit of a furore.

    - its leaked that he dealt drugs. Who is going to argue?

    - if that fails they'll just get someone into custody (and they're not too fussy who). Gives them a chance to manage the story - active lines of enquiry


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭gramar


    Tilly wrote: »
    Why on earth would our guards (or any police) try and protect criminals?

    Dey have rightz too ya know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    We don't leave it to the Gardai to decide who they are and are not going to protect.

    Now I wouldn't suggest that the AGS do it but there are a couple of PR techniques that I've seen Police in UK do. Someone is killed and there's a bit of a furore.

    - its leaked that he dealt drugs. Who is going to argue?

    - if that fails they'll just get someone into custody (and they're not too fussy who). Gives them a chance to manage the story - active lines of enquiry



    As long as they're not taking out innocent bystanders they're doing society a favour taking out each other.
    There was a young lad beaten stabbed and set on fire the night Kilkenny won the all Ireland in rhode, left for dead. The news headlines were "young drug dealer" and mentioned how he was known to gardai, his convictions, the fact they were following a line of enquiry incase it was related to a grow house being uncovered months previously, and how much he owed in a drug debt.

    Hardly painting a picture of an innocent victim


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    I find it amazing that people reference TV shows for things like this.

    "The man whose cousin once appeared as a book reviewer on the Late Late Toy Show as a child was shot twice outside his house."

    "The woman, who once went to school with that woman who filled in for the girl that used to be on Off the Rails while she was out on maternity leave, was arrested and charged with two counts of smuggling cocaine."

    "The teenager, who was taught in the very same school that the cousin of Marty Whelan attended, was taken into custody early this morning."

    Stira, as seen on the Late Late Show


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Stira, as seen on the Late Late Show

    They only dropped that from their ads in the past five years or so if I recall correctly even though they were featured on the show in 1990!

    At least in their case it was for marketing purposes not just "Hey everyone something happened to someone that knows someone that was on the telly!"


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