60° wedges like em or loath them?

RoadRunner · 23-09-2015 12:38PM #1

Like lob wedges or Hate em?

I have a 60° but have taken it out of the bag to carry an extra long club instead.

The top of my set looks like this:
9 43°
pw 47°
52°
56°
60° < not carrying this at the moment.

However I seem to hit my 52° and 47° the same distance and am starting to consider pulling the pw 47° to allow me to reinstate the 60°. Is it weird to have a 9° gap from 43° - 52°?

benny79 · 23-09-2015 12:51PM

I also hit my PW & 52 same distances on 3/4 shots about 4 yds more on full shots with PW
but noticed I get more check with my 52. Dont have a 60 always told there only for lower players.

rrpc · 23-09-2015 12:57PM

Love them

They're a great club to have in the bag for the number of shots you can use them for. I use mine for anything from 70 yards in to just around the green.

My clubs are a bit more evenly spaced than yours by the sound of it:

9i: 40º
PW: 45º
AW: 50º
SW: 55º
LW: 60º

Mantis Toboggan · 23-09-2015 01:04PM

I've a 64 degree wedge! Hated it for a long time, but I started practicing with it recently and I'm slowly falling in love

fullstop · 23-09-2015 01:16PM

Didn't use one for years and used 52 and 56, could open or close the 56 to play whatever shot I needed but got one about 8 or 9 years ago and have had one since.

Boskowski · 23-09-2015 01:31PM

Used to have one but not anymore didn't see the point of it.
If I really shortsighted myself I play it with my sand wedge and open up a bit. And really that's the only shot I could see myself needing a 60 for.

All pitches under say 80m I play with my GW. Chips I play with all sorts of clubs. SW I use for bunker shots and the aforementioned flop, hardly ever even use that for full shots.

But then...I'm not that good. Doubt it though that a 60 would make me better.

Russman · 23-09-2015 01:41PM

Never learned to use one when I was a junior and just learned to open up the SW as required. I take a 60 out for a round probably three or four times a year but I honestly think they cost more shots than they save. They're great out of bunkers, but there's not many shots you can't play with a 56 and a good pair of hands.

mike12 · 23-09-2015 01:54PM

Have a 50 gap wedge, 54 middle and a 58 sw/lob wedge.
If the gap and the pw are going the same distance then the loft in the gap wedge may have gotten stronger. Hitting the off driving range mats can often bend the a degree or 2.

Seve OB · 23-09-2015 02:42PM

I had one years ago, didn't get on well with it and got rid of it nearly as soon as I picked it up.
Put a 58 in the bag.... was still tricky, but we got on better. It took a while though to master.
Changed my clubs this year and ow have PW47 SW52 & LW58. Having difficulty atm with my 58, but it's new so am giving it the benefit of the doubt. Though I am considering ditching it if I can get my hands on a matching 56

charlieIRL · 23-09-2015 02:49PM

I'm back in love with my 60, saved me a lot of shots last saturday!!

dwd · 23-09-2015 03:16PM

PW 46, GW 50, SW 54, LW 58

I find the biggest difference between my usage of LW and SW is dependent on the lie, there's a good bit more bounce on the SW (11deg) compared to my LW (7 or 8 deg) which makes it much better out of deep rough or very sandy bunkers, if it's a bare lie and I need a soft landing or if there's not much sand in the bunkers, then I'll use the LW. for me a bare lie and an opened SW face equals a blade/thin :pac:

Eric the Eagle · 23-09-2015 03:28PM

I like them, as I don't hit a decent amount of greens in regulation the 60 degree is one of the most used clubs in the bag!

I use it for any shot 40 metres and in. Would use it for all chips around the green and over the past few years have had a load of chip ins.

It has helped to improve my short game no end.

Keano · 23-09-2015 04:03PM

Such a hard club to get right and not seen to manage master them properly.

I had one but it's long since gone!

rrpc · 23-09-2015 05:14PM

Eric the Eagle wrote: »

I use it for any shot 40 metres and in. Would use it for all chips around the green and over the past few years have had a load of chip ins.

Funny you should say that because I've had four pin hits in my last three rounds using the lob wedge from around the green.

millerj · 23-09-2015 05:55PM

Put one in the bag about six months ago. Would never really use it from any sort of distance but use it for two shots in particular.

The first where I have left my ball to the side of a bunker or water and the pin is only a few yards on the green from your ball position. Basically whereby you are forced to play a flop shot and you need to get as much height as possible for the flopper!, maximum distance for me about 25 yards for this shot (and always dependant on a decent lie as otherwise I could thin it very easily).

Secondly where I have a bunker shot and again the pin is probably less than five/six yards from my ball. Any further than this and I use the sand wedge from my set which is 55 degrees.

Really think they are an essential though and very interested in Dennis Reynolds post on his 64 degree which again I could see the merits of. I could lose my three wood for one of those as I am sure 'Boris the Spider' has a home in my three wood head cover due to lack of use. Don't think I have used it in twenty rounds!

dan_ep82 · 23-09-2015 07:34PM

I use mine more than any other wedge, needs replacing actually I'm using it that much.

Not fancy shots either, just chips,bunker and distance. Haven't hit a flop shot in a few months

whizbang · 23-09-2015 09:51PM

Wedge is 44, so i keep a 50 and a 58 in my (carry) bag

I think sometimes I would like a smaller difference between the wedges, but in reality I find it helps keep the indecision out of the swing. The amount of times a wedge shot happens to be a clear cut choice of club is very few.

Mostly love the Lob and only recently started using the low bump shot. Any wedge at all for the bump and run.

OffalyMedic · 23-09-2015 10:39PM

I have pw 46Â° then my 3 mizuno wedges are 50Â° 54Â° and 58Â°...had a 60 for a few years in the bag and was actually my favourite club for a long time, however I feel the 58Â° suits me better because I can get better distance with full swing but it's also very versatile around the greens and a lot more forgiving

Henry Ford III · 24-09-2015 10:35AM

I like the club but don't hit it too far (c.60 yards). I also tend to come up short on shots as I can't bring myself to swing that full or hard at what I feel is a short pitch shot.

Having said all that it goes very high with the 60 degree lob wedge, and lands pretty softly too.

markpauldunne · 24-09-2015 10:58AM

I Love it,

I use 60 for greenside bunkers, short shots over trouble and if I need to extricate from real rubbish.

I had a Ryder one from Argos for years but lost it in Gowran Park couple of years ago. I bought 4 since and finally found one I like.

I don't like when (Hope my Jargon is correct) the have a big bounce as I dont really consider it for full shots, I like a knife edge to cut through sand or Rough.

That's just me...

Domo1982 · 24-09-2015 11:04AM

I think it was Monty who once said that a 60 degree wedge at amateur level was 'Just a vanity club for the listless dreamer'

Gotta love the man!:)

Seve OB · 24-09-2015 11:15AM

Dennis Reynolds wrote: »

I've a 64 degree wedge! Hated it for a long time, but I started practicing with it recently and I'm slowly falling in love

64 :eek:

I'm going to get myself a 90 degree one next week

rrpc · 24-09-2015 11:58AM

Seve OB wrote: »

64 :eek:

I'm going to get myself a 90 degree one next week

Hard luck, Phil Mickelson bought them all up

FixdePitchmark · 24-09-2015 01:59PM

I shake - when I see a lad with a handicap over 12 with anything above 56 deg.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Of course - exceptions out there , but a good rule of blading for me.

bustercherry · 24-09-2015 02:14PM

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

I shake - when I see a lad with a handicap over 12 with anything above 56 deg.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Of course - exceptions out there , but a good rule of blading for me.

Your really don't wanna go down this route, I to have same discussion on another thread and was ultimately futile

Your probably to low a handicapper to have a relevant opinion on this

rrpc · 24-09-2015 02:28PM

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

I shake - when I see a lad with a handicap over 12 with anything above 56 deg.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Of course - exceptions out there , but a good rule of blading for me.

Off a tight lie on a short chip they can be deadly (and not in a good way

). Takes a lot of practice to not thin your shot or hit it too fat trying not to thin it

FixdePitchmark · 24-09-2015 02:44PM

bustercherry wrote: »

Your really don't wanna go down this route, I to have same discussion on another thread and was ultimately futile

Your probably to low a handicapper to have a relevant opinion on this

It is just daft stuff ,

Every coach out there - says

Use less loft
1) Putter
2) 8 Iron
3) Pw
4) Sw if you must.
5) 60 degree - don't go there.

Yet lads who don't practice at all, turn up on a Saturday 60 degree - and go for the auld flop. They get bones to hold the flag and all.

Funny thing is - some can do it - amazing stuff.

To get a good feel for a wedge , any wedge, is 1000s and 1000s of balls, then to add loft , deloft - add roll out , spin, work out bounce , divot reaction etc.

Enough going on for us lads, to stick with one wedge around the greens.

Anyway - hitting higher loft clubs is fun when you pull it off - so that is why lads do it.

But - use less loft is the advice out there.

Very simple. Or _ i'm just not good enough, haven't worked it out yet.

Seve OB · 24-09-2015 02:48PM

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

I shake - when I see a lad with a handicap over 12 with anything above 56 deg.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Of course - exceptions out there , but a good rule of blading for me.

my 58 is never used for chipping close to the green with a few exceptions. come to think of it, same applies for my 52. I would generally chip with a 9 iron

I use my 58 for shots of about 90-100 yards. Greenside bunkers. Chips where I'm close to green, but with an obstacle in the way that I need to get over eg. a bunker, and the odd time if I'm close to green, in rough with not much green between me and pin I might try and play a flop shot. I pretty much never play it off a tight lie close to the green because the blading happens all to easy.

I would use my 52 for pretty similar instances, 100-115 yards, Long bunker shots and the trick shots I mentioned above

I am like you Fix, I cringe when I see high handicappers chipping with them. It makes no sense.

RoadRunner, my advice to you is start pitching with somewhere between a 7 and a 9 iron. I would reckon a bit of practice at that and you will find out what suits you best....... you could easily improve a shot or 3 per round.

charlieIRL · 24-09-2015 02:55PM

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

I shake - when I see a lad with a handicap over 12 with anything above 56 deg.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Of course - exceptions out there , but a good rule of blading for me.

remember the approach shots I hit on Saturday? (after i plonked a ball in the water) they were all with a 60 degree wedge!!!

bustercherry · 24-09-2015 03:20PM

It makes no sense because you see people chipping with massive forward presses effectively de-lofting it by 4/5 degrees. The effect of this on bounce means you have to be super clean with your strikes.

For the love of god just move the ball forward, use the lower lofted wedge slightly open and let the bounce do it's job.

FixdePitchmark · 24-09-2015 03:26PM

bustercherry wrote: »

It makes no sense because you see people chipping with massive forward presses effectively de-lofting it by 4/5 degrees. The effect of this on bounce means you have to be super clean with your strikes.

For the love of god just move the ball forward, use the lower lofted wedge slightly open and let the bounce do it's job.

Exactly above.

Taking me a long long time and many hours of pain to understand this.

In fact, using a 60 as full club has more validity - as you do have say an 80 yard club.

60° wedges like em or loath them?

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