60° wedges like em or loath them?

RoadRunner

Like lob wedges or Hate em?

I have a 60° but have taken it out of the bag to carry an extra long club instead.

The top of my set looks like this:
9 43°
pw 47°
52°
56°
60° < not carrying this at the moment.

However I seem to hit my 52° and 47° the same distance and am starting to consider pulling the pw 47° to allow me to reinstate the 60°. Is it weird to have a 9° gap from 43° - 52°?

benny79

I also hit my PW & 52 same distances on 3/4 shots about 4 yds more on full shots with PW
but noticed I get more check with my 52. Dont have a 60 always told there only for lower players.

rrpc

Love them

They're a great club to have in the bag for the number of shots you can use them for. I use mine for anything from 70 yards in to just around the green.

My clubs are a bit more evenly spaced than yours by the sound of it:

9i: 40º
PW: 45º
AW: 50º
SW: 55º
LW: 60º

Mantis Toboggan

I've a 64 degree wedge! Hated it for a long time, but I started practicing with it recently and I'm slowly falling in love

fullstop

Didn't use one for years and used 52 and 56, could open or close the 56 to play whatever shot I needed but got one about 8 or 9 years ago and have had one since.

Boskowski

Used to have one but not anymore didn't see the point of it.
If I really shortsighted myself I play it with my sand wedge and open up a bit. And really that's the only shot I could see myself needing a 60 for.

All pitches under say 80m I play with my GW. Chips I play with all sorts of clubs. SW I use for bunker shots and the aforementioned flop, hardly ever even use that for full shots.

But then...I'm not that good. Doubt it though that a 60 would make me better.

Russman

Never learned to use one when I was a junior and just learned to open up the SW as required. I take a 60 out for a round probably three or four times a year but I honestly think they cost more shots than they save. They're great out of bunkers, but there's not many shots you can't play with a 56 and a good pair of hands.

mike12

Have a 50 gap wedge, 54 middle and a 58 sw/lob wedge.
If the gap and the pw are going the same distance then the loft in the gap wedge may have gotten stronger. Hitting the off driving range mats can often bend the a degree or 2.

Seve OB

I had one years ago, didn't get on well with it and got rid of it nearly as soon as I picked it up.
Put a 58 in the bag.... was still tricky, but we got on better. It took a while though to master.
Changed my clubs this year and ow have PW47 SW52 & LW58. Having difficulty atm with my 58, but it's new so am giving it the benefit of the doubt. Though I am considering ditching it if I can get my hands on a matching 56

charlieIRL

I'm back in love with my 60, saved me a lot of shots last saturday!!

dwd

PW 46, GW 50, SW 54, LW 58

I find the biggest difference between my usage of LW and SW is dependent on the lie, there's a good bit more bounce on the SW (11deg) compared to my LW (7 or 8 deg) which makes it much better out of deep rough or very sandy bunkers, if it's a bare lie and I need a soft landing or if there's not much sand in the bunkers, then I'll use the LW. for me a bare lie and an opened SW face equals a blade/thin :pac:

Eric the Eagle

I like them, as I don't hit a decent amount of greens in regulation the 60 degree is one of the most used clubs in the bag!

I use it for any shot 40 metres and in. Would use it for all chips around the green and over the past few years have had a load of chip ins.

It has helped to improve my short game no end.

Keano

Such a hard club to get right and not seen to manage master them properly.

I had one but it's long since gone!

rrpc

Eric the Eagle wrote: »

I use it for any shot 40 metres and in. Would use it for all chips around the green and over the past few years have had a load of chip ins.

Funny you should say that because I've had four pin hits in my last three rounds using the lob wedge from around the green.

millerj

Put one in the bag about six months ago. Would never really use it from any sort of distance but use it for two shots in particular.

The first where I have left my ball to the side of a bunker or water and the pin is only a few yards on the green from your ball position. Basically whereby you are forced to play a flop shot and you need to get as much height as possible for the flopper!, maximum distance for me about 25 yards for this shot (and always dependant on a decent lie as otherwise I could thin it very easily).

Secondly where I have a bunker shot and again the pin is probably less than five/six yards from my ball. Any further than this and I use the sand wedge from my set which is 55 degrees.

Really think they are an essential though and very interested in Dennis Reynolds post on his 64 degree which again I could see the merits of. I could lose my three wood for one of those as I am sure 'Boris the Spider' has a home in my three wood head cover due to lack of use. Don't think I have used it in twenty rounds!

dan_ep82

I use mine more than any other wedge, needs replacing actually I'm using it that much.

Not fancy shots either, just chips,bunker and distance. Haven't hit a flop shot in a few months

whizbang

Wedge is 44, so i keep a 50 and a 58 in my (carry) bag

I think sometimes I would like a smaller difference between the wedges, but in reality I find it helps keep the indecision out of the swing. The amount of times a wedge shot happens to be a clear cut choice of club is very few.

Mostly love the Lob and only recently started using the low bump shot. Any wedge at all for the bump and run.

OffalyMedic

I have pw 46° then my 3 mizuno wedges are 50° 54° and 58°...had a 60 for a few years in the bag and was actually my favourite club for a long time, however I feel the 58° suits me better because I can get better distance with full swing but it's also very versatile around the greens and a lot more forgiving

Henry Ford III

I like the club but don't hit it too far (c.60 yards). I also tend to come up short on shots as I can't bring myself to swing that full or hard at what I feel is a short pitch shot.

Having said all that it goes very high with the 60 degree lob wedge, and lands pretty softly too.

markpauldunne

I Love it,

I use 60 for greenside bunkers, short shots over trouble and if I need to extricate from real rubbish.

I had a Ryder one from Argos for years but lost it in Gowran Park couple of years ago. I bought 4 since and finally found one I like.

I don't like when (Hope my Jargon is correct) the have a big bounce as I dont really consider it for full shots, I like a knife edge to cut through sand or Rough.

That's just me...

Domo1982

I think it was Monty who once said that a 60 degree wedge at amateur level was 'Just a vanity club for the listless dreamer'

Gotta love the man!:)

Seve OB

Dennis Reynolds wrote: »

I've a 64 degree wedge! Hated it for a long time, but I started practicing with it recently and I'm slowly falling in love

64 :eek:

I'm going to get myself a 90 degree one next week

rrpc

Seve OB wrote: »

64 :eek:

I'm going to get myself a 90 degree one next week

Hard luck, Phil Mickelson bought them all up

FixdePitchmark

I shake - when I see a lad with a handicap over 12 with anything above 56 deg.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.


Of course - exceptions out there , but a good rule of blading for me.

bustercherry

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

I shake - when I see a lad with a handicap over 12 with anything above 56 deg.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.


Of course - exceptions out there , but a good rule of blading for me.

Your really don't wanna go down this route, I to have same discussion on another thread and was ultimately futile

Your probably to low a handicapper to have a relevant opinion on this

rrpc

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

I shake - when I see a lad with a handicap over 12 with anything above 56 deg.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.


Of course - exceptions out there , but a good rule of blading for me.

Off a tight lie on a short chip they can be deadly (and not in a good way ). Takes a lot of practice to not thin your shot or hit it too fat trying not to thin it

FixdePitchmark

bustercherry wrote: »

Your really don't wanna go down this route, I to have same discussion on another thread and was ultimately futile

Your probably to low a handicapper to have a relevant opinion on this

It is just daft stuff ,

Every coach out there - says

Use less loft
1) Putter
2) 8 Iron
3) Pw
4) Sw if you must.
5) 60 degree - don't go there.

Yet lads who don't practice at all, turn up on a Saturday 60 degree - and go for the auld flop. They get bones to hold the flag and all.

Funny thing is - some can do it - amazing stuff.

To get a good feel for a wedge , any wedge, is 1000s and 1000s of balls, then to add loft , deloft - add roll out , spin, work out bounce , divot reaction etc.

Enough going on for us lads, to stick with one wedge around the greens.

Anyway - hitting higher loft clubs is fun when you pull it off - so that is why lads do it.

But - use less loft is the advice out there.

Very simple. Or _ i'm just not good enough, haven't worked it out yet.

Seve OB

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

I shake - when I see a lad with a handicap over 12 with anything above 56 deg.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.


Of course - exceptions out there , but a good rule of blading for me.

my 58 is never used for chipping close to the green with a few exceptions. come to think of it, same applies for my 52. I would generally chip with a 9 iron

I use my 58 for shots of about 90-100 yards. Greenside bunkers. Chips where I'm close to green, but with an obstacle in the way that I need to get over eg. a bunker, and the odd time if I'm close to green, in rough with not much green between me and pin I might try and play a flop shot. I pretty much never play it off a tight lie close to the green because the blading happens all to easy.

I would use my 52 for pretty similar instances, 100-115 yards, Long bunker shots and the trick shots I mentioned above

I am like you Fix, I cringe when I see high handicappers chipping with them. It makes no sense.

RoadRunner, my advice to you is start pitching with somewhere between a 7 and a 9 iron. I would reckon a bit of practice at that and you will find out what suits you best....... you could easily improve a shot or 3 per round.

charlieIRL

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

I shake - when I see a lad with a handicap over 12 with anything above 56 deg.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.


Of course - exceptions out there , but a good rule of blading for me.

remember the approach shots I hit on Saturday? (after i plonked a ball in the water) they were all with a 60 degree wedge!!!

bustercherry

It makes no sense because you see people chipping with massive forward presses effectively de-lofting it by 4/5 degrees. The effect of this on bounce means you have to be super clean with your strikes.

For the love of god just move the ball forward, use the lower lofted wedge slightly open and let the bounce do it's job.

FixdePitchmark

bustercherry wrote: »

It makes no sense because you see people chipping with massive forward presses effectively de-lofting it by 4/5 degrees. The effect of this on bounce means you have to be super clean with your strikes.

For the love of god just move the ball forward, use the lower lofted wedge slightly open and let the bounce do it's job.

Exactly above.

Taking me a long long time and many hours of pain to understand this.

In fact, using a 60 as full club has more validity - as you do have say an 80 yard club.

bustercherry

I have the following wedge setup

47 degree PW
51 degree (8 degree bounce) wedge
55 degree (8 degree bounce) wedge
60 degree (4 degree bounce) wedge

I carry the lob wedge for shots where I prefer a low bounce and not to fill a distance gap. Mostly shots from wet compacted bunkers but I find I take it out to chip on links courses when I have a tight lie.

I would never think I'm 70 yards out and hit the lob wedge; I'd just hit a half swing controlled 55. It's the easier shot option and ultimately a better trajectory.

scout353

Dennis Reynolds wrote: »

I've a 64 degree wedge! Hated it for a long time, but I started practicing with it recently and I'm slowly falling in love

Also have a 64 nicknamed Phil! Use it for anything inside 30 yards and particularly with a bunker or other obstacle between me and the green. Also use it in the bunker which is great for popping it up. However, the biggest issue is committing to the shot (i'm a 17 handicapper) and sometimes end up in the hazard I'm trying to avoid :D

Also use a trusty rusty which is 55 degrees and a regular PW

rrpc

I'm in the happy position of having quite a bit of ground to practice on. I have enough area to use anything up to a 7 iron, but I generally just grab one of my wedges and spend an hour or two practising different shots and shot lengths with it of an evening.

Gives you a lot of confidence when you go out on the course.

If there's a bit of time following a round, I also practice around the 18th green to give a 'real world' feel to what I'm doing.

benny79

Practising on the 18th Green is frowned on in most clubs especially if the club house is in view!

I found this out the hard way.

Mantis Toboggan

Seve OB wrote: »

64 :eek:

I'm going to get myself a 90 degree one next week

Aye, if I give it a good slap I can almost kick it on the way down.

RoadRunner

Seve OB wrote: »

64 :eek:

I'm going to get myself a 90 degree one next week

https://youtube.com/watch?v=HNMtt94x1Y0

bmay529

I always open/close my 56° sand wedge to get the flight I want. I picked up a couple of Cleveland 60° wedges to try before I found one I liked and it had only a little bounce. After a bit of practice I became reasonable with it. However I found it really did nothing I could not do with my sand... except maybe getting out of "bad" or heavily wet bunkers... ie because it had little bounce. Anyhow, my 60° wedges are back in storage.

Kingswood Rover

Whats all this wedges love in crap. i have 2 and one is for bunkers, de loft the other or swing softer as required for aerial shots, 7 or 8 iron for chipping around the green get the ball on the deck running at the hole.

Montgolfier

I normally just used a 52 and a 56 but this year the rough was extra long and sticky so I got my hands on an m10 mizuno 60 deg. It's now become my favourite. Great from long rough round the green. Difficult to use in the wet.
The gapping is strange my PW is 47 my gap is 52 and sw 56 lob 60.
As an investment I bought a used loft lie machine now my 52 is 50 degrees and goes 103m (handy tool)

m1ck007

I use a 64 degree wedge and i love it. Im not a low handicapper but the wedge has got me out of some tricky situations around greens. Full swing and it goes so high. Fairly useful tool imo