Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 (*EVERYONE READ MOD POST in OP)

Ardent · 23-09-2015 04:51PM

Grayditch wrote: »

He can be a good manager. He definitely can. When things are going right, he's great at building a momentum and he did get a lot of his subs and tactics right at times. But he's clearly hugely flawed, too. And we're at the arse-end of the flaws right now and he looks lost.

He'll do well at his next club, but he's not good at spending money, and I'd like to give someone else a go now.

His teams play nice football - when they're allowed to. Too often they get bullied and turned over, it was the same with Swansea.

murpho999 · 23-09-2015 04:53PM

Ardent wrote: »

Suarez brought out the best in every player around him. I think Gerrard said something to that effect recently.

Yea , he may have some impact as he inspires confidence but he cannot be held solely responsible for the good performances.

JohnDaniels · 23-09-2015 04:56PM

Ardent wrote: »

His teams play nice football - when they're allowed to. Too often they get bullied and turned over, it was the same with Swansea.

His Swansea team played dour controlling football. It was a novetly to see a promoted side playing in such a way but it certainly wasnt exciting to watch.

shamrock55 · 23-09-2015 04:57PM

Rodgers should not be sacked unless there is a first class replacement waiting outside his office door

Harry Palmr · 23-09-2015 04:58PM

They didn't get clapped off the pitch at Anfield for playing dour football as far as I can recall.

Anyway, the idea of Gary Mac filling in seems rather pointless and needless - if the button is pushed FSG need to have someone ready to go. Indeed they wouldn't do it unless they had an appropriate manager to come in.

Mr.H · 23-09-2015 05:04PM

JohnDaniels wrote: »

His Swansea team played dour controlling football. It was a novetly to see a promoted side playing in such a way but it certainly wasnt exciting to watch.

Grayditch · 23-09-2015 05:05PM

I would like him to be replaced with an experienced manager as soon as possible to try get the ball rolling with the new set up as soon as possible, but not for him to be sacked out of punishment or fear with no replacement. If I'm honest, I don't think he's a danger or anything, we're not going have relegation worries, I just feel he's not the man for the job anymore.

Jon Stark · 23-09-2015 05:08PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

They didn't get clapped off the pitch at Anfield for playing dour football as far as I can recall.

Anyway, the idea of Gary Mac filling in seems rather pointless and needless - if the button is pushed FSG need to have someone ready to go. Indeed they wouldn't do it unless they had an appropriate manager to come in.

Well some people want him sacked right now, even if there's no worthy replacement.

The reality is that even if we push for the top managers immediately, they might not come. So we're stuck with a man who has arguably lost the dressing room.

At least if Mcallister took over as caretaker you'd have a man with coaching experience and who would have the respect of the dressing room. He'd only be a stop gap until the right man becomes available but better that scenario than having a ready replacement who isn't up to the task.

Turtyturd · 23-09-2015 05:11PM

Are people seriously advocating McCallister? On what basis?

If Pascoe was still there and someone suggested him taking over we'd all be like...

Grayditch · 23-09-2015 05:12PM

We're in a crisis of sorts, not THAT kind of crisis.

Jesus Wept · 23-09-2015 05:14PM

NukaCola wrote: »

Over simplistic again.

Rodgers took over a Swansea side that were in the Championship for 2 seasons finishing 8th/7th. He took over and immediately won them promotion in his first season and secured EPL football for them with a 11th placed finish. How can any rational person credit other managers entirely for that success?

The revision of history in here is funny.

Yep, he did well then, then got out of his depth. Worth noting the peter principle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle

Mr.H · 23-09-2015 05:16PM

JohnDaniels wrote: »

:eek:

Last 15 league games in comparison to Hodge.

Hodgsons side won 2 more, scored 7 more and conceded 5 less.

Manipul-ation is not the name of a fancy country

Here are some real facts

In Roys time here:
he lost 9 games in the league
he won just 7

in his opening 8 games he won 1 and lost 4 times

in fact under his tenure we spent the first 11 games in the bottom half of the table and only after our 23rd game of the season did we actually stay in the top half for more than 2 games.

Roy had us in the relegation zone

So excuse me if I find your "stats" a little biased

corwill · 23-09-2015 05:18PM

Turtyturd wrote: »

Are people seriously advocating McCallister? On what basis?

If Pascoe was still there and someone suggested him taking over we'd all be like...

If Rodgers threw himself under the bus in the morning, I would expect to see SO'D in temporary charge until a replacement arrived. How temporary that would be, I don't know. Could easily see FSG faffing about for weeks.

Francie Barrett · 23-09-2015 05:21PM

People comparing Rodgers with Hodgson would want to cop themselves on. Whatever you say about Rodgers, he was not and will never be on the same scale of calamity as Hodgson was.

Harry Palmr · 23-09-2015 05:24PM

Here is a facht - Liverpool are 4 points off 4th place, so are many other teams mind!

corwill · 23-09-2015 05:32PM

Francie Barrett wrote: »

People comparing Rodgers with Hodgson would want to cop themselves on. Whatever you say about Rodgers, he was not and will never be on the same scale of calamity as Hodgson was.

He isn't yet. There's at least the potential there, though, depending how you look at it.

I wish he'd say to himself "**** it, I'll die with my boots on" and go with a really attacking approach, really throw caution to the wind. At least he could say he tried to relocate the mojo of '13 to '14. It's about his only shot at sticking around.

billymitchell · 23-09-2015 05:32PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Here is a facht - Liverpool are 4 points off 4th place, so are many other teams mind!

Don't we need to aim for 3rd place to get champions league this year?
Not that either is going to happen with Rodgers at the helm, or until Suarez comes back to single-handedly propel us to 2nd place again.

Agent Coulson · 23-09-2015 05:39PM

K-9 wrote: »

Suarez doesn't do it against the big teams either so how the feck did we beat them then.

See, pretty moronic stuff.

We have played the top 4 of Chelsea, City, Utd and Arsenal 26 times in the league since Rodgers became manager and won 5 of them so we haven't done well against the big teams with or without Suarez.

Agent Coulson · 23-09-2015 05:44PM

5starpool wrote: »

Question time.

If Suarez hadn't left last summer, where do people think we would have finished? I think we would have been 3rd or 4th probably, and we'd have progressed to the CL knock out stages. I don't think we'd be having this conversation anyhow, that's for sure.

If he had stayed I think we would have continued playing two strikers.

I really cannot understand why Rodgers now refuses to play two strikers.

Everyone on here and the internet in general who tries to predict the best team sets it out as a 442 diamond yet when was the last time Rodgers used that system?

K-9 · 23-09-2015 05:49PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

We have played the top 4 of Chelsea, City, Utd and Arsenal 26 times in the league since Rodgers became manager and won 5 of them so we haven't done well against the big teams with or without Suarez.

4 of those were in 13/14.

Agent Coulson · 23-09-2015 05:54PM

K-9 wrote: »

4 of those were in 13/14.

So outside of the amazing season we have only beaten a top four team once in the league since Rodgers became manager.

So we can't beat the big teams without Suarez then.

K-9 · 23-09-2015 06:01PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

So outside of the amazing season we have only beaten a top four team once in the league since Rodgers became manager.

So we can't beat the big teams without Suarez then.

I wasn't really expecting anybody to take it seriously.

Sturridge has a higher win percentage so we can't win them without Sturridge.

Agent Coulson · 23-09-2015 06:02PM

K-9 wrote: »

I wasn't really expecting anybody to take it seriously.

Sturridge has a higher win percentage so we can't win them without Sturridge.

The longer he is injured the higher that % stays

brevity · 23-09-2015 06:18PM

We're not going to get Klopp or Ancelotti are we?

Agent Coulson · 23-09-2015 06:22PM

brevity wrote: »

We're not going to get Klopp or Ancelotti are we?

Bruce Arena with Steven Gerrard shadowing him for a season or two before taking over.

Tipsy McSwagger · 23-09-2015 06:41PM

brevity wrote: »

We're not going to get Klopp or Ancelotti are we?

Well that's up to the ambitions of FSG. Klopp is certainly attainable and has basically said he would take the job, Ancelotti has probably been approached but it will be very hard to convince him to take the reigns.

mosstin · 23-09-2015 06:54PM

Rodgers doesn't get enough credit for sorting out his teething problems.

Agent Coulson · 23-09-2015 07:08PM

https://twitter.com/Linda_Pizzuti/status/646685884625092608

Harry Palmr · 23-09-2015 07:08PM

Liverpoolin ihmepoika ampui maalin suoraan kulmapotkusta – katso miten SJK löylytti HJK:n!

http://www.iltasanomat.fi/veikkausliiga/art-1442981376507.html

JK took Seinäjoki style pure 3-0 victory over the dominant Finnish champion. The home side's brightest star was 18-year-old Allan Rodrigues de Souza.
Liverpool in the summer acquired by Allan Souza was transferred immediately to a loan SJK: hon, where he has excelled during the autumn season of Veikkausliiga matches.

18-year-old brasilialaisnuorukainen showed on Wednesday that the square will take place even in strong. SJK smashed the tip of the match of Veikkausliiga HJK 3-0 and Allan shimmers field preferred. She spoke on SJK's first and third goal, another Allan shot himself in a fantastic manner directly from a corner kick.

Paints were the perfect sample to Liverpool, which was the site of the College's Director of Seinäjoki here to match.
ck

Knex* · 23-09-2015 07:13PM

Just throw Carra in. It'll be a laugh.

Sure we're fecked anyway.

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