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Web Summit quits Dublin

  • 23-09-2015 09:28AM
    #1
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,252 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    wow, major blow to Dublin as a "tech capital".


    no doubt this is mostly due to the embarrassing broad band wifi service provided last year by the RDS which really riled the organisers.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0923/729704-web-summit/


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  • #2
    Buona Fortuna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    They may have just seen this thread

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057497217


  • #3
    newacc2015
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭newacc2015


    It's nothing to do with the WiFi. They wanted a country that would throw money at the event. They were expecting authorities here to write them a cheque for hosting the summit in Dublin. It mentions in the article about financial incentives.

    Personally I like to see that the government didn't contribute to it. Its extremely rare that contributions to these events bring any return


  • #4
    sabat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    This is perfect timing imo; by the time the event moves to Portugal the current tech/app/hot money bubble will have burst spectacularly and a convention centre full of venal nerds who think they're cool talking about disrupting old industries and making the world a better place will be about as popular as a NAMBLA conference.


  • #5
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    It's a load of **** TBH. Not worth the investment.


  • #6
    MonkeyTennis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭MonkeyTennis


    We should have another St Patricks day instead.


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  • #7
    JohnFalstaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 898 ✭✭✭JohnFalstaff


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    It's a load of **** TBH. Not worth the investment.

    Article linked mentions that the event brings in €100 million to the country? Probably through tourism and hotel bookings etc but that has to count for something.


  • #8
    gandalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    The company paid for tickets to it last year. Tbh for real business's it is a monumental waste of time.

    The vast majority of start ups were hoaching apps that were poor imitations of ones that already existed.


  • #9
    For Forks Sake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,875 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    gandalf wrote: »
    The company paid for tickets to it last year. Tbh for real business's it is a monumental waste of time.

    The vast majority of start ups were hoaching apps that were poor imitations of ones that already existed.

    If you look at some of the garbage being shown at TechCrunch Disrupt this week, a lot oof them seem to be creating first world problems to justify their business model.


  • #10
    stunmer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭stunmer


    Menas wrote: »
    That 100 million figure is what the organisers claim. I would love to see a breakdown of it.
    Actually what Failte Ireland claim according to the article


  • #11
    osarusan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,861 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Menas wrote: »
    That 100 million figure is what the organisers claim. I would love to see a breakdown of it.
    It was reported as a Failte Ireland estimate.


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  • #12
    gandalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    For Forks Sake wrote: »
    If you look at some of the garbage being shown at TechCrunch Disrupt this week, a lot oof them seem to be creating first world problems to justify their business model.

    Absolutely I actually felt that some of them were set up just to get a jolly at the event.

    Lisbon is welcome to Cosgrove and his minion's.


  • #13
    whiskeyman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    hookers and coke dealers will be hit hard...


  • #14
    Firefox11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,515 ✭✭✭Firefox11


    There talking about it on the radio now. But what about going on pub crawls with Bono will be no more!


  • #15
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Delighted they're gone. It was a social media bull**t fest.

    They might finally realize in portugal that their problem was'nt dublin venues or companies but the fact that their CEO blames everyone else for his own f**k ups


  • #16
    ricardo1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭ricardo1


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    wow, major blow to Dublin as a "tech capital".


    no doubt this is mostly due to the embarrassing broad band wifi service provided last year by the RDS which really riled the organisers.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0923/729704-web-summit/

    I would say that's one of the reasons but the real reason is Dublin's poor public transport infrastructure.

    The RDS doesn't have the infrastructure for the attendance they're looking for and a nearby luas/metro DART station to get people back to their hotels.
    People last year were complaining about having to wait in the rain to get a taxi or having to get on a bus to get into town in rush hour.

    Pat on the back DCC current and previous governments for a capital city of buses and taxis as its main form of public transport.


  • #17
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    sabat wrote: »
    This is perfect timing imo; by the time the event moves to Portugal the current tech/app/hot money bubble will have burst spectacularly and a convention centre full of venal nerds who think they're cool talking about disrupting old industries and making the world a better place will be about as popular as a NAMBLA conference.

    I can see the jealousy seething from here.


  • #18
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    newacc2015 wrote: »
    It's nothing to do with the WiFi. They wanted a country that would throw money at the event. They were expecting authorities here to write them a cheque for hosting the summit in Dublin. It mentions in the article about financial incentives.

    Personally I like to see that the government didn't contribute to it. Its extremely rare that contributions to these events bring any return

    The wifi debacle from last year was certainly a consideration, as too was the level of price-gouging by hoteliers.

    €100m is what the Summit brought to Ireland. On top of that you had a lot of top execs from some of the top companies visiting, these execs are have the authority to green light the opening of offices in Ireland; something we need.

    It's a huge loss to the country.


  • #19
    Menas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    stunmer wrote: »
    Actually what Failte Ireland claim according to the article
    osarusan wrote: »
    It was reported as a Failte Ireland estimate.

    Oops! Post deleted.


  • #20
    Mr E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,684 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    I was at the first one and the one last year. I enjoyed the first one much more.
    The event as it is now has grown far too big to be enjoyable, and it was too spread out in the RDS.


  • #21
    viztopia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 770 ✭✭✭viztopia


    maybe there is an opening for some one else to do something similar now once they will be leaving?


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  • #22
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,154 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    viztopia wrote: »
    maybe there is an opening for some one else to do something similar now once they will be leaving?



    No.No more of that now.


  • #23
    Ignatius in bloom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 240 ✭✭Ignatius in bloom


    Anything that takes a 100 million out of the economy is bad, the government should give incentives to any organisation willing to bring that amount of money into the country its simple economics. As for waiting in the rain for taxis? surely it wouldn't take that much trouble to set up private buses that have routes to all major hotels in Dublin that accommodate these people? Works fine for Spanish resorts!


  • #24
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    The wifi debacle from last year was certainly a consideration, as too was the level of price-gouging by hoteliers.

    €100m is what the Summit brought to Ireland. On top of that you had a lot of top execs from some of the top companies visiting, these execs are have the authority to green light the opening of offices in Ireland; something we need.

    It's a huge loss to the country.

    Do you actually know what the reasons were for the wi fi debacle? I do and it was mostly their own fault :)

    But just out of interest how many international companies have opened offices here off the back of this schmoozefest?


  • #25
    techdiver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,547 ✭✭✭techdiver


    Ignatius in bloom wrote: »
    Anything that takes a 100 million out of the economy is bad, the government should give incentives to any organisation willing to bring that amount of money into the country its simple economics. As for waiting in the rain for taxis? surely it wouldn't take that much trouble to set up private buses that have routes to all major hotels in Dublin that accommodate these people? Works fine for Spanish resorts!

    It is a consequence of crap infrastructure though. When people arrive in a capital city they tend to assume that public transport is up to scratch.

    For too long the under investment in public transport has continued in Ireland and only yesterday a major piece of needed infrastructure for Dublin (Dart Underground) was scrapped and is being replaced with something that will not solve the problem in the long run.


  • #26
    Ignatius in bloom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 240 ✭✭Ignatius in bloom


    techdiver wrote: »
    It is a consequence of crap infrastructure though. When people arrive in a capital city they tend to assume that public transport is up to scratch.

    For too long the under investment in public transport has continued in Ireland and only yesterday a major piece of needed infrastructure for Dublin (Dart Underground) was scrapped and is being replaced with something that will not solve the problem in the long run.

    Yes, i agree the infrastructure in Dublin is very poor.

    But there is a temporary way around this in the form of Web buses as in if you have a pass for web summit then you get to use these busses for free and they go to destinations that these people would be going to and staying in. They should have fought harder to retain this web summit, Portugal did and now they will prosper from it and our International reputation for hosting large scale international events is damaged.


  • #27
    lawred2
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    money pure and simple


  • #28
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    The web summit's all a bit of a racket anyway designed to extract cash from wealthy companies. €600 per person to listen to a few CEOs talking for 3 days. Or €4,000 if you want to hobnob with those speakers.

    It's an elaborate networking event and little more. A bit like the Galway Races, most people only go there to be seen to be flashing the cash around, not because they're doing anything of worth. The organisers of the summit are pulling in serious cash.

    Complaining that the Government wasn't giving them any money when the organisers are already generating more than €20m on ticket sales alone is joke.


  • #29
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Ignatius in bloom wrote: »
    Yes, i agree the infrastructure in Dublin is very poor.

    But there is a temporary way around this in the form of Web buses as in if you have a pass for web summit then you get to use these busses for free and they go to destinations that these people would be going to and staying in.

    That would have cost money though and the web summit dont like spending money :)

    You've brutal transport infrastructure in dublin becuase projects take more than a governments term to complete and no TeeDee is going to spend money that won't get them re-elected. Plus the culchie ministers know they'll be slated for spending money on dublin


    No coincidence that the LUAS was built while one party was in power for successive terms and a lot of ministers were from dublin constituencies


  • #30
    Ignatius in bloom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 240 ✭✭Ignatius in bloom


    seamus wrote: »
    The web summit's all a bit of a racket anyway designed to extract cash from wealthy companies. €600 per person to listen to a few CEOs talking for 3 days. Or €4,000 if you want to hobnob with those speakers.

    It's an elaborate networking event and little more. A bit like the Galway Races, most people only go there to be seen to be flashing the cash around, not because they're doing anything of worth. The organisers of the summit are pulling in serious cash.

    Complaining that the Government wasn't giving them any money when the organisers are already generating more than €20m on ticket sales alone is joke.

    It's a loss of 100 million or more considering it's getting bigger by the year so by leaving Ireland the joke is on us. If you had a restaurant and someone said they will guarantee you a full seating of twenty five tables and you give them 2 euro per table wouldn't you do it?


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  • #31
    Ignatius in bloom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 240 ✭✭Ignatius in bloom


    Bambi wrote: »
    That would have cost money though and the web summit dont like spending money :)

    You've brutal transport infrastructure in dublin becuase projects take more than a governments term to complete and no TeeDee is going to spend money that won't get them re-elected. Plus the culchie ministers know they'll be slated for spending money on dublin


    No coincidence that the LUAS was built while one party was in power for successive terms and a lot of ministers were from dublin constituencies

    Small money compared to the return.


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