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patsy_mccabe · 16-09-2015 11:37AM

Duke92 wrote: »

Was at a beef meeting in Kilkenny yesterday and the farmer holding it said that the suckler farmers are getting crazing money for there stock and it's not the factories fault beef farmers can't make money from cattle

Suckler Farmers have this country ruined.:D

Cavanjack · 16-09-2015 12:06PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Suckler Farmers have this country ruined.:D

Puds will surely come back to agree with that statement.

Cavanjack · 16-09-2015 12:17PM

Duke92 wrote: »

Was at a beef meeting in Kilkenny yesterday and the farmer holding it said that the suckler farmers are getting crazing money for there stock and it's not the factories fault beef farmers can't make money from cattle

Are they getting crazy money though? Doubt the suckler men would agree with this. I don't be in Marts but according to yesterday's Indo the average price of a weanling bull 300/400kg is €2.54 a kg. that's €889 for a 350kg bull. He would want this at least to keep a cow for a year and have something out of it. He would have less out of heifers I presume. Is it not just the high prices that are reported?
What sort of a system does he run in kilkenny?

CloughCasey1 · 16-09-2015 01:37PM

Cavanjack wrote: »

Are they getting crazy money though? Doubt the suckler men would agree with this. I don't be in Marts but according to yesterday's Indo the average price of a weanling bull 300/400kg is €2.54 a kg. that's €889 for a 350kg bull. He would want this at least to keep a cow for a year and have something out of it. He would have less out of heifers I presume. Is it not just the high prices that are reported?
What sort of a system does he run in kilkenny?

I'll probably get shot for saying this but lads with good milky sucklers bred from british freaian dairy and bucket reared with fairly good offspring and double sucked with dairy calf of any breed and kept until 16 mts would leave double the profit.

Count Mondego · 16-09-2015 02:19PM

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

I'll probably get shot for saying this but lads with good milky sucklers bred from british freaian dairy and bucket reared with fairly good offspring and double sucked with dairy calf of any breed and kept until 16 mts would leave double the profit.

You'll get shot for punctuation alright.

CloughCasey1 · 16-09-2015 02:23PM

Count Mondego wrote: »

You'll get shot for punctuation alright.

That's it ya.

tanko · 16-09-2015 02:43PM

Duke92 wrote: »

Was at a beef meeting in Kilkenny yesterday and the farmer holding it said that the suckler farmers are getting crazing money for there stock and it's not the factories fault beef farmers can't make money from cattle

I'm assuming that farmer has no suckler cows. He should go out and buy a pile of them, he'll be a multi-millionaire in a few years. Then he could retire, go and live near a beach in the Bahamas:rolleyes:

adne · 16-09-2015 03:04PM

tanko wrote: »

I'm assuming that farmer has no suckler cows. He should go out and buy a pile of them, he'll be a multi-millionaire in a few years. Then he could retire, go and live near a beach in the Bahamas:rolleyes:

U mean bundoran!!!

Duke92 · 16-09-2015 04:41PM

Cavanjack wrote: »

Are they getting crazy money though? Doubt the suckler men would agree with this. I don't be in Marts but according to yesterday's Indo the average price of a weanling bull 300/400kg is €2.54 a kg. that's €889 for a 350kg bull. He would want this at least to keep a cow for a year and have something out of it. He would have less out of heifers I presume. Is it not just the high prices that are reported?
What sort of a system does he run in kilkenny?

He buys small heifers not weanlings from 330 to 450kgs roughly middle of the road kinda cattle as cheap as he can get and finishes them on grass and shed
He had 8 Incalf this years and thinks yer a disgrace that ye don't scan them before ye bring them to the mart

Robson99 · 16-09-2015 05:29PM

Duke92 wrote: »

He had 8 Incalf this years and thinks yer a disgrace that ye don't scan them before ye bring them to the mart

He is right. It is a disgrace. All heifers should be scanned before they are brought to the mart. Why risk getting fleeced for the sake of the cost of scanning.
I'm nit ashamed to say that if one I buy proves in calf I make sure all costs are covered and my time and potential loss is covered too.

blue5000 · 16-09-2015 05:50PM

Duke92 wrote: »

He buys small heifers not weanlings from 330 to 450kgs roughly middle of the road kinda cattle as cheap as he can get and finishes them on grass and shed
He had 8 Incalf this years and thinks yer a disgrace that ye don't scan them before ye bring them to the mart

Robson99 wrote: »

He is right. It is a disgrace. All heifers should be scanned before they are brought to the mart. Why risk getting fleeced for the sake of the cost of scanning.
I'm nit ashamed to say that if one I buy proves in calf I make sure all costs are covered and my time and potential loss is covered too.

All the more reason for suckler farmers to keep all the heifers and take them to beef on his/her own farm. Seen lads estrumate heifers in the chute as they were putting on the stickers in the mart. If a heifer is only a few weeks in calf she won't show up in the scan.

Other lads then with feedlots are pretending heifers are in calf, and go looking for compo. The whole heifer in calf/not in calf thing needs to be reviewed by the marts. Having a mud fat heifer calving is no use to anyone, except maybe a vet doing a caesaerian. (jesus spellcheck suggests canaries for that one

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Willfarman · 16-09-2015 06:12PM

4.00 bullocks for tomorrow Slaney and Liffey meats hacketstown. 4.10 heifers. Excluding any bonus.

Miname · 16-09-2015 09:16PM

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

I'll probably get shot for saying this but lads with good milky sucklers bred from british freaian dairy and bucket reared with fairly good offspring and double sucked with dairy calf of any breed and kept until 16 mts would leave double the profit.

Break that down for us mere mortals. I'd be saying a half reasonable calf would be 250-300. The cow will need extra feeding costing say 50c a day , then calves pulling out of her say maybe slip a week or two with calving, then the pure hardship of getting the calf onto the cow, two out of three might take but that third one could eat up weeks. Put in a few new random diseases and you'd be asking yourself why aren't I milking.

Base price · 17-09-2015 09:53AM

http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/beef-kill-running-50000-head-behind-2014-levels/

CloughCasey1 · 17-09-2015 09:59AM

Miname wrote: »

Break that down for us mere mortals. I'd be saying a half reasonable calf would be 250-300. The cow will need extra feeding costing say 50c a day , then calves pulling out of her say maybe slip a week or two with calving, then the pure hardship of getting the calf onto the cow, two out of three might take but that third one could eat up weeks. Put in a few new random diseases and you'd be asking yourself why aren't I milking.

Wild statement by me it seems. Everything thing sounds easy until ya have to do it.

Cavanjack · 17-09-2015 08:17PM

Folye paying a 15cent bonus. Any one know what it's for?
http://www.ifa.ie/market-reports/market-reports-6/

Cassidy2 · 17-09-2015 08:35PM

Willfarman wrote: »

4.00 bullocks for tomorrow Slaney and Liffey meats hacketstown. 4.10 heifers. Excluding any bonus.

What's the thought's now.i am not happy with what I am hearing

MfMan · 17-09-2015 09:20PM

Cassidy2 wrote: »

What's the thought's now.i am not happy with what I am hearing

What are you hearing? €4 isn't too bad - a struggle to get €3.95 in the west.

CloughCasey1 · 17-09-2015 09:34PM

Cassidy2 wrote: »

What's the thought's now.i am not happy with what I am hearing

Go on sure. Your bulling to give us good news. ;-)

Cassidy2 · 17-09-2015 09:58PM

MfMan wrote: »

What are you hearing? €4 isn't too bad - a struggle to get €3.95 in the west.

I have some to kill.was told that they are not quoting till next week

Base price · 18-09-2015 10:04PM

Straight from the horses mouth, well one of them

http://www.farmersjournal.ie/beef-prices-could-fall-10c-kg-next-week-kepak-190062/

Willfarman · 18-09-2015 10:09PM

A lot are only on a two day week next week so that may explain how the job was a little keener for yesterday and today. I was told strictly to keep over 400 kg bullocks from slaney. Had nothing to trouble it anyway.

Base price · 19-09-2015 03:16PM

I was thinking about the link that I posted above and what the Kepak representative said about factors that are going to cause a 10c/kg price fall. One factor was reduced consumption in France and the other was a reduction in the Chinese market for offal and hides.
It is ironic that us farmers have to suffer a price reduction considering we don't even get paid for the 5th quarter.
It really is a fcuked up system were the processors are always on the winning side at the expense of producers

Cavanjack · 19-09-2015 03:41PM

Base price wrote: »

I was thinking about the link that I posted above and what the Kepak representative said about factors that are going to cause a 10c/kg price fall. One factor was reduced consumption in France and the other was a reduction in the Chinese market for offal and hides.
It is ironic that us farmers have to suffer a price reduction considering we don't even get paid for the 5th quarter.
It really is a fcuked up system were the processors are always on the winning side at the expense of producers

It's probably a ploy to get farmers to throw cattle at them. It'll probably work.

Base price · 19-09-2015 04:06PM

Cavanjack wrote: »

It's probably a ploy to get farmers to throw cattle at them. It'll probably work.

Along with the two day week kill.

Cavanjack · 20-09-2015 10:30AM

Anyone kill cows lately? What are prices like for o's. Waiting for an agent to get back to me

simx · 20-09-2015 02:02PM

Cavanjack wrote: »

Anyone kill cows lately? What are prices like for o's. Waiting for an agent to get back to me

3.60 os and ps

locha · 21-09-2015 02:12PM

Anyone get a quote on Steers for this week? Auld boy was in Carnaross and told me that its 3.90 base in Liffey..

Duke92 · 23-09-2015 12:37AM

Was talking to a buyer for one of the big factories today and was to hold on for 2 weeks
Told me they were told they'd pull them as far as they can but are only getting barely enough cattle at the minute and some factories are killing extra days which isn't suiting the big 3 and thinks things could change quicker than people think.

CloughCasey1 · 23-09-2015 08:13AM

Duke92 wrote: »

Was talking to a buyer for one of the big factories today and was to hold on for 2 weeks
Told me they were told they'd pull them as far as they can but are only getting barely enough cattle at the minute and some factories are killing extra days which isn't suiting the big 3 and thinks things could change quicker than people think.

We have a good news report for once! As Pudsey has been saying the sums just don't add up so things have to improve coming into the winter. God help us this time 2017 I can see 3.70 being the base the way they are prick acting now with a lower number of stock in the ground. Supply and demand my hole.

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