Cork GAA Discussion Thread

wackokid wrote: »

Very good TTM. Encyclopedic knowledge of sport fair play cha.
Only one 'wee' black spot in your analysis ( IMHO of course) you keep bringing the girls into your
analysis and comparing their success with what's lacking in the men's game.
To help you get over this you should compare the ball games both sexes play, tennis, golf, etc.
when even then there is no physical contact but there is no top woman alive in either game who would
beat the top man or even come close. That's just the way of nature.
Ladies football and camogie are even further removed from the men's game because of the physicality
and downright savagery inn many cases.
Not in your camp there my friend, but otherwise you are on the ball boy.

Fair points and your right women's game non contact to the men but my point when I reference ladies lot is attuide is what makes them top in there codes in was attuide elaine harte that supported team mates handed in letter signed all twelve years ago Macroom in pub nothing personal again then coach who there friend but wanted another manager
Legacy began simple change attuide


Hurling Gemma o connor three years ago interview spoke how management year before not up it cork made changes
Paudie Murray stepped in
My main point with ladies is you look back room team surrounded by top class management proven people sport
Football is same and even Ronanye from clyda women's team involved with Ryan
He had club record
Point with ladies is they in both codes give themselves every chance success with management team and camoige even has not under age success but senior management are so good makes up it
Jack o connor once said lead up last year all ireland final that fitzmaurice was brilliant thinker game and he learned trade under him at school then under twenty one and you can't go senior with out any experience as you need make mistakes away lesser lights

How then cuthbhertt appointed sullivan sexton and Davis great players but no management record at all as part senior elite back room team we were told wanted win all ireland bring fans back cork football didn't have any logic at all

McCarthy has it, worst kept secret in cork, what a ****ing joke. What record of achievement has this fella? how did Nicholas murphy agree to this when he must have known the views of his former colleagues? years more of mediocrity for crok football

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

I have heard that its Ronan McCarthys ...said it here when I saw him in Dunmanway last Saturday night ....just looked wraped up ...

Interview only last night yet seems done deal already
Interview imo made no difference they knew who wanted from start
The question also did ever actually want clearly
If did would went after him and offered him job unconditional
It seems wanted be seen were interested him but didn't make it all he's terms as knew wouldn't take it then
I would be view McCarthy was always there man they wanted
If gets top back room team could make difference but the worry is it won't be

Ed Coughlan gone from Dublin Hurlers.

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Oh yes Oh yes Oh yes !!!!!!!

City Division Junior A Football Championship Final result. Delanys 0-13 v 1-03 Brian Dillon's

At a rain sodden Ballinlough , we produced some fantastic football given the conditions. After 7 mins Dillons ( who were going for the double ) were 1-02 v 0-00 ahead but Delaneys settled to come back to 0-06 v 1-03 at ht.
We held Dillons scoreless in the second half and played some real champagne possession football and got some glorious scores. The scenes of jubilations at the final whistle were heart warming as the small family club, Delanys, were once again city champions, a feat we last did in 1976!!!!

Over the proverbial moon !!!!!!!!!!!!!

fair play a club that has had its diffulties since relegation from the intermediate ranks some years ago

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

Great to see Shane Kingston back with the Douglas minors tonight ...best of luck to him ....now hopefully hes dad will be our new manager !

He will.

eigrod wrote: »

Some quotes from Teddy on here why he wasn't at the 25 year recognition of the Footballers yesterday.

Got sent to 3 different entrances before being sent back to the first one and then still had difficulty getting in so he fecked off home.

Obviously only hearing Teddy's side of the story, but it doesn't look good for Croke Park and the GAA.

Given his achievement in 1990, they should have been bringing him in in a limousine.

http://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/they-were-treating-me-like-a-bowzy-in-a-nightclub-teddy-mccarthy-refused-entry-for-cork-jubilee-celebrations/40750

Yes what happened shouldn't have happened and you would feel for teddy however I think to be honest he made a drama out of the situation that there did not need to be in he should have stayed around
Like if he was refused entry rather than confront the staff with who works in the zoo here or comments like that isn't very helpful in fairness, why not ring ger lane or indeed frank murphy if needed as there both high ranking official and would have sorted it straight away and from being a former selector at under twenty one and indeed senior hurling selector also he would surely have had contact numbers for member ccb

Surely a quick phone call to them who then would have been able to contact croke park etc and yes it's a sunday however you would imagine when ccb ring croke park they would answer

There could been perfect reasonable mistake who knows by croke park staff
Teddy while yes it shouldn't happened imo could have dealt with it better
Yes it a big news story fair enough However imo while yes he missed the function i think cork senior football and hurling management appointment is more of concern going forward so imo i wouldn't be getting too carried away with the croke park function
Yes it's great to celebrate the past and as dual player he owes cork nothing and was great but imo future is the big story for cork gaa with two absoultey crucial appointment coming up

Its big news in most papers today but I think for the problems cork gaa had this year this story is more like a storm in a tea cup in comparison as teddy not going in function will soon be forgotten but other things cork gaa have big impact on future success

Also to say he should be getting limousine to croke park I don't agree
Look at all the great great cork dual stars who while they are getting better limelight the truth is they get nothing like the men in recognition of there achievement when likes corkery puts as much time and effort in as McCarthy etc

Corcaigh Abu1 wrote: »

Heard he made all the difference when he was brought on and won Douglas the match.. Anybody at the game?

He's was excellent and ist touch of the ball He made a huge impact
Have no doubt cork minor would won with him as the game was balanced until then but it's he's presence and leadership and the ability to score when the need is greatest that would been crucial v limerick when cork had a lot of wides

Standard is very good at minor and likes power and English were excellent also
Cork minor hurling should be strong next year with few under sixteen playing last night getting a look on the panel
Jerry Wallis said on radio when he wanted cork job that he rated current cork minor management very good
In relation to minor also an outstanding win again by Jack o connor with kerry, not a surprise but the huge win was
In two years he won two all ireland and kerry minor last few years were poor but shows difference in management


Cork minor next year with modern coaching from kissane I expect cork to win a munster title and I would certainly think an all ireland is within reach in two years
Kerry minor will be interesting to see who they appointment now
Jack is a hard act to follow but imo griffin if gets it is good
As for under twenty one football have no doubt kerry are going to win at least one all ireland under him and when fitzmaurice takes break two years or whenever jack is the next senior manager i think

danganabu wrote: »

What has that to do with Cork GAA? And he is not a ''so called great coach'', he is a definite great coach.

I would agree he's an outstanding coach and as I posted two-day before the final one of gavin or fitzmaurice were going to be critsed after Sunday as only one could win and if gavin had lost have no doubt some would say gavin was poor etc

Loosing sunday doesn't make fitzmaurice a bad coach in with limited resources with old team last two years weren't expected to do much he's won two munster one all ireland and got to two all ireland final something no all ireland winner has done last few years in haven't got to a final


Lot kerry big game players didn't performance but against quality side like Dublin that's always a risk
Fitzmaurice fair enough has lost to Dublin now a bit and he'll be anxious to turn that around just like jack had when Tyrone used beat them
Gavin learned hugely from last year and I don't doubt kerry won't learn from sunday


Kerry actually loosing is worse for cork in fitzmaurice now has unfinished business and will want to prove last year wasn't a one off and if kerry going three row there might been some hope for lack hunger and complacency but like Dublin last year loosing and kk ten years ago fitzmaurice will now like cody start building a new team and with the minors who will be developed hugely under jack the next two years and indeed the junior winning last year fitzmaurice is in much better position than he was when he ist took over


Whatever doubts they are over him have no doubt he's much better cork last manager and indeed if McCarthy gets the job He's better than him so if I was cork man any and every day of the year I'd have no problem with fitzmaurice management my team

Also it's refreshing hear donaghy who after game yesterday didn't want to talk about the gouging incident or make excuses for weather etc he said kerry lost as simply beaten better team but kerry come back stronger and will do next year
In fairness he had rights to talk about the gouging but he wanted to dismiss it as imo he's view like kerry is others deal with it if they want but he doesn't want it to become the focus for kerry in focus he pointed out was to win all ireland next year
With most other counties you could say it's cliché talk but not with kerry in they have no doubt will want be back next year and I think will actually want Dublin as want try beat them as won't sit well them lost three recent championship games to them.
If this was cork we would probably go on about incidents game for months after where as kerry no they can't change what happened but focus is on next year already

People think kerry are gone after Sunday, far from it
There's nothing to stop them from top four at least and if cork dont appointment proven back room team management they will dominating cork next year again bar yes of course loosing the last meaningless league game to cork in April to cork in kerry when kerry at that stage will have kept division one status and won't care about cork in the league
Very few management would have transformed kerry and the style of play the way fitzmaurice done


I think he'll refreshing he's management team also and I would not be surprised if donie Buckley was not added in some role to add new dimension again and if not at senior he'll surely be involved at minor
Buckley is one of the best football coaches around and huge belive getting drill from other sports to football
Dublin used that with basket ball coach mark ingle


Great to read paudie kissane say paper two weeks ago he was big in to watching other sports trying there drill training
Kissane has spent time watching various rubgy team train like connaught etc
Kissane is innovation cork have at minor just like kerry have and Dublin
Huge game for cork ladies football sunday
I think they will win

Horse84 wrote: »

I'd have my reservations about Kingston being appointed being honest. While I think he's a proven excellent coach is he the man cork hurling needs at the moment? Im not convinced.
The fact that Kingston is familiar with a lot of the players from 2013 etc may prove to be a negative factor. I think a lot of the current squad are just too comfortable, they need a radical shake up and bringing in a familiar face, while it may be popular with most of them, is it going to instill in them that hunger fight and passion that's seriously lacking in them?
He is undoubtedly the leading candidate who would be willing to take it on within the county as I don't want to see tomas mulcahy left near it.
I'll reserve my judgement on Kingston for the time being as his background team may be very good.

Extremely valid points and the fact players like him yes is good however cork needs toughen up and needs cultural change and this talk players didn't like landers was not correct in yes some may have or not but the point was as lehane said interview landers takes no messing and will be first say it but lehane said anyone found fault such style shouldn't be playing senior hurling


Cody isn't soft in hurling training
Kingston is imo best candidate available by far but I agree cork can't have set up that won't change style or indeed change things last term

I'd have concerns is it change in him we need but no other candidates that ccb will appointment that imo good so by far and away cork best hope
I think the players would play for him in unity etc
Key is bring in top management team
Ger Cunningham best candidate but with Dublin and I expect Dublin good next year as boland gone selector and imo cunningjham and boland was always a concern in management get job over another guy working together rarely works

Cunningjham will probably do coaching himself and change up he's selection team and probably bring in he's own men
With Dublin when got job boland he had to have with him
Coughlan going but that wasn't anything on coughlan poor performance etc when he's proven more so likely be commitment etc you would think as coughlan and cunningjham always got on well

TTM... To be fair Kerry were clueless on how to counter Dub tactics. Kerry movement etc. was very poor. Kerry will bury you if you stand back and let them play, The Dubs were in their faces all day and Kerry were uncomfortable with this kind of tactic. Donegal did the dirty work for Kerry last yr by beating Dubs. What has Fitzmaurice done to be classed in such high status as a coach?

Smith614 wrote: »

TTM... To be fair Kerry were clueless on how to counter Dub tactics. Kerry movement etc. was very poor. Kerry will bury you if you stand back and let them play, The Dubs were in their faces all day and Kerry were uncomfortable with this kind of tactic. Donegal did the dirty work for Kerry last yr by beating Dubs. What has Fitzmaurice done to be classed in such high status as a coach?

Fair points but he's record is good in three years got three munster wins but more importantly two all ireland final and won one
What other teams has won the all ireland and got to the final recently
This kerry team was widely acknowledged as lot mileage etc but he got every last inch out them and reinvented some players and more importantly brought kerry to playing non traditional style which took real courage as kerry weren't exactly for it at the start

It's extremely hard as the record shows for any county to reclaim the all ireland so fitzmaurice in football isn't on he's own here
I think Dublin last year if beaten Donegal would been beaten by kerry as if Dublin had one would stayed free flowing open style and kerry would played defensive
Dublin last year are nothing like Dublin this year in this year Dublin played defensive counter attack football and kerry were same but dublin once gavin got system right were always going be better Donegal etc in have better and more forwards and big bench
Dublin had the younger and stronger bench but crucially had a system that once it negated kerry system then Dublin superior force came to play
Dublin will be there or there about next year but it's hard to win back to back but they will be there
Fitzmaurice also brought in proven Cian o Neill and that shows he meant business
When he took the kerry job there was huge work to be done with no minor or under twenty one success
Minor have success and no surprise as jack had them training fota up to the game
Level preparation was brilliant
Under twenty one will be successful so fitzmaurice now has a system and huge foundation to work off so he'll be strong still
Dublin are the only team to beat them under him in championship and Dublin are a huge force so while kerry don't do moral victory the point is fitzmaurice has done well I think
Bar Tyrone and Galway I can't see any team challenging them in the future years
Hopefully clearly will come back in to the Cork job fray and if not Fitzgerald or English get it we may challenge
But at the moment whatever about sunday Kerry are still top two in the country

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Fair points but he's record is good in three years got three munster wins but more importantly two all ireland final and won one
What other teams has won the all ireland and got to the final recently
This kerry team was widely acknowledged as lot mileage etc but he got every last inch out them and reinvented some players and more importantly brought kerry to playing non traditional style which took real courage as kerry weren't exactly for it at the start

It's extremely hard as the record shows for any county to reclaim the all ireland so fitzmaurice in football isn't on he's own here
I think Dublin last year if beaten Donegal would been beaten by kerry as if Dublin had one would stayed free flowing open style and kerry would played defensive
Dublin last year are nothing like Dublin this year in this year Dublin played defensive counter attack football and kerry were same but dublin once gavin got system right were always going be better Donegal etc in have better and more forwards and big bench
Dublin had the younger and stronger bench but crucially had a system that once it negated kerry system then Dublin superior force came to play
Dublin will be there or there about next year but it's hard to win back to back but they will be there
Fitzmaurice also brought in proven Cian o Neill and that shows he meant business
When he took the kerry job there was huge work to be done with no minor or under twenty one success
Minor have success and no surprise as jack had them training fota up to the game
Level preparation was brilliant
Under twenty one will be successful so fitzmaurice now has a system and huge foundation to work off so he'll be strong still
Dublin are the only team to beat them under him in championship and Dublin are a huge force so while kerry don't do moral victory the point is fitzmaurice has done well I think
Bar Tyrone and Galway I can't see any team challenging them in the future years
Hopefully clearly will come back in to the Cork job fray and if not Fitzgerald or English get it we may challenge
But at the moment whatever about sunday Kerry are still top two in the country

I don't see any chance of this TTM the manput his proposal to the committee/frank and was sent on his way. I have no doubt McCarthy will be named to much acclaim from the executive in the next couple of days and a continuance of the disaster under Cuthbert will carry on.