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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 (*EVERYONE READ MOD POST in OP)

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  • #2582
    Caovyn Lineah
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭Caovyn Lineah


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Nonsense.
    Absolute nonsense.

    59 players signed.

    38 I'd deem as failures.

    That's more wrong than right.


  • #2583
    Mr Alan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    kildare75 wrote: »
    And u know that Rodgers picked all his signings do you?

    Yes.
    Brendan Rodgers wrote:
    “There is absolutely no way a player will come in here if I don’t want him,” “I will always be the first person it comes to. That’s not being arrogant, that’s how we operate here and how it works in this country.”


  • #2584
    kildare75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭kildare75


    Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »
    Benayoun was a great signing

    Seriously?A great signing ??
    Well everyone is entitled to their opinion , but in mine, he was never even close to a Liverpool player.
    But I respect your opinion


  • #2585
    Mr Alan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Caovyn Lineah wrote: »
    59 players signed.

    38 I'd deem as failures.

    That's more wrong than right.

    Do the same exercise for players signed > £5m

    Then do it for Rodgers


  • #2586
    Tipsy McSwagger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,072 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Don't get me wrong, I don't want Monk either.

    Nobody does but it's an insult to the man (who is a very professional and likable manager) that people are trying to say we might end up with someone like Monk if Rodgers was sacked. Monk is a better manager but we need a top manager to come in.


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  • #2587
    Caovyn Lineah
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭Caovyn Lineah


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Do the same exercise for players signed > £5m

    Then do it for Rodgers

    Stop moving the goalposts.

    Rafa signed more duds than successes.

    38/59.


  • #2588
    firemansam4
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭firemansam4


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    What I find funny is people saying, "careful what you wish for, you'll end up with flavour of the month like Gary Monk or someone"

    .....em?! That's exactly what Rodgers was when he got the job. Rodgers is the Gary Monk of a few years ago.

    Those supporting Rodgers are essentially saying, 'Careful what you wish for or we might end up with a Brendan Rodgers' :rolleyes:

    Well the thing is if we rush into making a quick decision and go for someone like Monk or another manager with potential then that could set us back countless years again with pissing more 100's of millions down the drain.

    It was the wrong decision to bring in Rodgers in the first place, but that doesn't mean we should make a rash decision now by sacking Rodgers without any proper alternatives lined up. Sure if Klopp or Ancelotti or that kind of ilk are available then great, but I doubt that is the case.

    We are not going to get into a relegation fight this year, I don't think anyone really believes that. So if we are going to sack Rodgers lets make sure we get the right replacement this time, even if it takes time.


  • #2589
    kildare75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭kildare75


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Yes.

    well the evidence in the transfer market and on the pitch might just hint at something else


  • #2590
    MightyMandarin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    Caovyn Lineah wrote: »
    Stop moving the goalposts.

    Rafa signed more duds than successes.

    38/59.

    Rafa signed far more star players than Rodgers has.

    Don't tell me you think Coutinho+Sturridge is better than Torres, Alonso, Mascherano, Reina, Agger and Kuyt.


  • #2591
    Mr Alan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Talking about Rafa is only people trying take the conversation away from Rodgers and how incredibly out of his depth he is and how poor he is at his job.


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  • #2592
    Tipsy McSwagger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,072 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    kildare75 wrote: »
    Seriously?A great signing ??
    Well everyone is entitled to their opinion , but in mine, he was never even close to a Liverpool player.
    But I respect your opinion

    He was a cult hero (plus I had a tenner on him @55/1 to score 2 or more in the Arsenal 4-4 game).


  • #2593
    brevity
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,812 ✭✭✭brevity


    Just shows how good a manager Rafa was with all those "duds"....


  • #2594
    ricero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    The fact he's still managing the club says it all about the owners. They don't give a ****


  • #2595
    Mr Alan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    kildare75 wrote: »
    well the evidence in the transfer market and on the pitch might just hint at something else

    Evidence like signing players like Borini & Allen who he has worked with a lot in the past?

    Nope, evidence hints to Rodgers having the biggest say in transfers at the club. Like he says he does.


  • #2596
    Mr Alan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Caovyn Lineah wrote: »
    Stop moving the goalposts.

    Rafa signed more duds than successes.

    38/59.

    Rafa has a record in the transfer market that Rodgers could only dream of


  • #2597
    Caovyn Lineah
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭Caovyn Lineah


    MightyMandarin wrote: »
    Rafa signed far more star players than Rodgers has.

    Don't tell me you think Coutinho+Sturridge is better than Torres, Alonso, Mascherano, Reina, Agger and Kuyt.

    I wasn't comparing their records.

    All I did was disagree with Mr Alans blatant lie that Rafa signed more good than bad.


  • #2598
    MightyMandarin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    ricero wrote: »
    The fact he's still managing the club says it all about the owners. They don't give a ****

    They don't want to sack the only manager they appointed. Swallowing one's pride is something Henry is obviously not used to.


  • #2599
    Caovyn Lineah
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭Caovyn Lineah


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Rafa has a record in the transfer market that Rodgers could only dream of

    He signed 59 players, 38 were duds. Therefore he signed more bad than good. It's OK to admit you were wrong.


  • #2600
    SlickRic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,681 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    Caovyn Lineah wrote: »
    Stop moving the goalposts.

    Rafa signed more duds than successes.

    38/59.

    Whether he moved the goalposts or not, put that aside for a second.

    Under Rafa we bought the likes of Torres, Masch, Alonso and Reina.

    They're not in the same ballpark, and it's silly to even attempt to compare their transfer successes. It's embarrassing actually.

    We signed some of the best in the world under Rafa.


  • #2601
    MightyMandarin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    Caovyn Lineah wrote: »
    I wasn't comparing their records.

    All I did was disagree with Mr Alans blatant lie that Rafa signed more good than bad.

    But you'll concede that Rafa has a far better transfer record than Rodgers, yes?


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  • #2602
    Kerrigooney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,987 ✭✭✭Kerrigooney


    MightyMandarin wrote: »
    But you'll concede that Rafa has a far better transfer record than Rodgers, yes?

    Good luck with that.


  • #2603
    Luckycharms_74
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,739 ✭✭✭Luckycharms_74


    Really need to be beating the bottom teams.
    I heard a stat on Arsenal last year vs the bottom 10 teams.
    They got 54 or 55 points out of 60.
    That's the marker we need to follow.

    Listening to TAW now and they said still suppport for BR at anfield.

    I'm going to the villa game next week so be interesting to see what the noises are like in the kop


  • #2604
    Tipsy McSwagger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,072 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    Half of Fergies signings were duds but who cares when you look at what he achieved.


  • #2605
    Caovyn Lineah
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭Caovyn Lineah


    SlickRic wrote: »
    Whether he moved the goalposts or not, put that aside for a second.

    Under Rafa we bought the likes of Torres, Masch, Alonso and Reina.

    They're not in the same ballpark, and it's silly to even attempt to compare their transfer successes. It's embarrassing actually.

    We signed some of the best in the world under Rafa.

    Again.

    I wasn't comparing the records and had no intention of doing so.


  • #2606
    54and56
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,861 ✭✭✭54and56


    ricero wrote: »
    The fact he's still managing the club says it all about the owners. They don't give a ****

    Yeah, you're right. FSG don't care about their investment at all and we're far worse off now than we were under H&G.

    The fickleness of some "fans", many of whom have little or no real commitment to supporting the club (rarely attend games, don't buy official merchandise, watch pirated match streams etc) never fails to amaze me.

    The sayings "Eaten bread is soon forgotten" & "No good deed goes unpunished" spring to mind.

    Pretty embarrassing.


  • #2607
    Caovyn Lineah
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭Caovyn Lineah


    MightyMandarin wrote: »
    But you'll concede that Rafa has a far better transfer record than Rodgers, yes?

    Obviously.


  • #2608
    Tipsy McSwagger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,072 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    Je_suis_Jean wrote: »
    Yeah, you're right. FSG don't care about their investment at all and we're far worse off now than we were under H&G.

    The fickleness of some "fans", many of whom have little or no real commitment to supporting the club (rarely attend games, don't buy official merchandise, watch pirated match streams etc) never fails to amaze me.

    The sayings "Eaten bread is soon forgotten" & "No good deed goes unpunished" spring to mind.

    Pretty embarrassing.

    I had a lovely bit of toast this morning.


  • #2609
    brevity
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,812 ✭✭✭brevity


    ricero wrote: »
    The fact he's still managing the club says it all about the owners. They don't give a ****

    Yup, I said a while back they had an opportunity to change it up in the summer but they didn't. They have a real problem now as Rodgers has ****ed up and they have to get rid of him - I think they would have hoped he did well enough to escape pissing everyone off and let the new owners make the decision of keeping him.


  • #2610
    brevity
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,812 ✭✭✭brevity


    Je_suis_Jean wrote: »
    Yeah, you're right. FSG don't care about their investment at all and we're far worse off now than we were under H&G.

    The fickleness of some "fans", many of whom have little or no real commitment to supporting the club (rarely attend games, don't buy official merchandise, watch pirated match streams etc) never fails to amaze me.

    The sayings "Eaten bread is soon forgotten" & "No good deed goes unpunished" spring to mind.

    Pretty embarrassing.

    This post makes no sense. People want the club to do well. Just because we don't fork out for sky or dress head to toe full kit wanker style doesn't mean we are lesser fans.

    Yes FSG bought the club at a good time but it's fair to say their "investments" have mostly come from selling players at >50 million quid.


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  • #2611
    jesus_thats_gre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    Je_suis_Jean wrote: »
    Yeah, you're right. FSG don't care about their investment at all and we're far worse off now than we were under H&G.

    I think the point may have been that they just care about their investment, i.e. specifically that it is performing financially. They bought it low, increased the revenues and are expanding the capacity of Anfield. Once the value of the investment is increasing within their expected boundaries, they will be less likely to take action for issues on the pitch.


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