Muslim school boy arrested Texas

Grab All Association · 16-09-2015 01:27PM #1

Fourteen-year-old Ahmed Mohamed from Irving, Texas, is a keen inventor. But when he bought his latest project to school to show his teachers, he was arrested and asked whether he'd tried to make a bomb instead.

The Dallas Morning News reports that Ahmed, who likes to make radios, fix his own go-kart and is a member of his school robotics club, made a simple electronic clock using a switchboard, put it in his pencil case, and took it to school on Monday.

Ahmed's engineering teacher was impressed, but when the clock beeped in his bag during a later English lesson, a teacher thought it looked like a bomb.

The school phoned the police. Ahmed was hauled out of the classroom by a teacher and a police officer and interrogated by five officers in total, all the while insisting that he hadn't bought a bomb to school.

In a video interview, Ahmed told The Dallas Morning News that a police officer he'd never met before looked him up and down and said "Yup. That’s who I thought it was.”

The principal threatened to expel him if he didn't make a written statement. Ahmed was arrested and led out of school in handcuffs to a juvenile detention centre, where his fingerprints were taken, and he was later allowed to go home.

Ahmed was suspended from school for three days and the police have said he might be charged with making a hoax bomb.

A police spokesperson told The Dallas Morning News:

http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/a-muslim-school-boy-brought-his-science-project-to-school-and-got-arrested--bkWe8ibbNIg

They could/would've saved a lot of time and resources if they had of talked to the engineering teacher and other students in the class.

I hope the parents of the teenager sue the school and the police.

allibastor · 16-09-2015 01:35PM

Chris___ wrote: »

http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/a-muslim-school-boy-brought-his-science-project-to-school-and-got-arrested--bkWe8ibbNIg

They could/would've saved a lot of time and resources if they had of talked to the engineering teacher and other students in the class.

I hope the parents of the teenager sue the school and the police.

What would have happened if he DID bring a bomb to school, and the teacher knew it but said nothing?

endacl · 16-09-2015 01:37PM

allibastor wrote: »

What would have happened if he DID bring a bomb to school, and the teacher knew it but said nothing?

A Big Bang?

allibastor · 16-09-2015 01:40PM

endacl wrote: »

A Big Bang?

Just reminds me of all those school shootings, where people knew something funny was going on but said nothing.

spaceHopper · 16-09-2015 01:43PM

Read about it on the BBC too, from the sound of it the teacher or police could easily have checked with his engineering teacher and saved a lot of hassle never mind the law suit they will have to answer. So far as I know the ratio to Christian children with guns to Muslim is very one sided in the States.

Red King · 16-09-2015 01:46PM

Texas.

K.Flyer · 16-09-2015 01:46PM

endacl wrote: »

A Big Bang?

That's just a theory. ..

REXER · 16-09-2015 01:47PM

endacl wrote: »

A Big Bang?

Is that just a theory.

Damn, too late!

Mint Sauce · 16-09-2015 01:47PM

He got away lucky with just being arrested going by the current state of law inforcement in the US.

But seriously, if I was his parents, i'd be seeking legal advice against the school and the police for their reaction.

16-09-2015 01:49PM

Why are people hoping he sues?

Because the police force was too cautious? Their job is to investigate suspicious behaviour. He was carrying a device that looked suspicious in a country where sadly schoolkids have murdered their classmates time and again.

Should he sue his parents for allowing him to bring the item to school? Should he sue the engineering teacher for not stepping forward fast enough to clear his name?

Why must people rush to the suing reaction?

the dark phantom · 16-09-2015 01:50PM

Sure down in a refugee centre in Kerry, An Afghan took apart his radio and had the parts on his bed, A worker spotted them and called the guards.

TommyKnocker · 16-09-2015 01:51PM

Racial profiling, pure and simple.

cowboyBuilder · 16-09-2015 01:53PM

TommyKnocker wrote: »

Racial profiling, pure and simple.

Actual profiling !!

Zillah · 16-09-2015 01:54PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Why are people hoping he sues?

Because the police force was too cautious? Their job is to investigate suspicious behaviour. He was carrying a device that looked suspicious in a country where sadly schoolkids have murdered their classmates time and again.

Should he sue his parents for allowing him to bring the item to school? Should he sue the engineering teacher for not stepping forward fast enough to clear his name?

Why must people rush to the suing reaction?

It was a clock. He told them it was a clock. His engineering teacher knew it was a clock. He made no threats. He engaged in no suspicious behaviour. They questioned him for hours, put him in handcuffs, and kept implying that the clock was intended for some other purpose. He is still suspended and the police have said that him being charged with making a fake bomb is a possibility.

This would never, ever, have happened if he was called Dave Smith. They should sue to make schools more cautious about discriminating against their students.

stevedublin · 16-09-2015 01:54PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Why must people rush to the suing reaction?

cuz its 'Murica

wes · 16-09-2015 02:00PM

Yeah, the family should sue. The police didn't do there job, as the whole thing could have been cleared up with the engineering teacher in a few minutes, and him being still suspended is absurd as well.

16-09-2015 02:06PM

Zillah wrote: »

They should sue to make schools more cautious about discriminating against their students.

I hope the school join the parents in to any action. They should do so to make parents more cautious about what their kids bring to school.

Litigation all round solves every problem...

salmocab · 16-09-2015 02:13PM

The Police were right when called to come out and investigate, however if it took hours to ascertain what the device was, when presumably the child said quite early on that its a clock for engineering class and the teacher could have confirmed then thats just plain ineptitude or else over zealous policing bordering on racism. As has been said wouldn't have been as big a deal if he was a white kid.

Boring username · 16-09-2015 02:13PM

Zillah wrote: »

It was a clock. He told them it was a clock. His engineering teacher knew it was a clock. He made no threats. He engaged in no suspicious behaviour. They questioned him for hours, put him in handcuffs, and kept implying that the clock was intended for some other purpose. He is still suspended and the police have said that him being charged with making a fake bomb is a possibility.

This would never, ever, have happened if he was called Dave Smith. They should sue to make schools more cautious about discriminating against their students.

Dave Smith could be a Muslim also. Nice bit of racial profiling there...

As for the story itself, it was a false positive. Possibly an overreaction by the teacher, maybe there was previous behaviour that had been flagged up, who knows at this point.

Akrasia · 16-09-2015 02:14PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I hope the school join the parents in to any action. They should do so to make parents more cautious about what their kids bring to school.

Litigation all round solves every problem...

Oh come on. An engineering student brings in a clock he made himself to show to his teacher and his friends, and this is somehow irresponsible?

He didn't pretend it was a bomb. The only reason anyone thought it was a bomb is because the English teacher watches too much tv and thinks any timer with wires sticking out of it is a bomb...

The teacher is an idiot for jumping to conclusions, and the police are worse for how they treated the kid after it became perfectly obvious that this was not a bomb

salmocab · 16-09-2015 02:15PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I hope the school join the parents in to any action. They should do so to make parents more cautious about what their kids bring to school.

Litigation all round solves every problem...

He brought a clock to school. What parent would stop that.

Grab All Association · 16-09-2015 02:19PM

salmocab wrote: »

He brought a clock to school. What parent would stop that.

http://gearandtoys.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Timex-Weekender-Wrist-Watch.jpg

weisses · 16-09-2015 02:21PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Why are people hoping he sues?

Because the police force was too cautious? Their job is to investigate suspicious behaviour. He was carrying a device that looked suspicious in a country where sadly schoolkids have murdered their classmates time and again

He brought a clock ... Not a glock

seamus · 16-09-2015 02:23PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I hope the school join the parents in to any action. They should do so to make parents more cautious about what their kids bring to school.

Litigation all round solves every problem...

So his parents should have stopped him from bringing a school project...to school?

So much idiocy here. In spite of all the school shootings in the US, they're still statistical outsiders. If a child has something in his bag that he says is a school project and looks like a school project...then it's probably a school project.

The terrorists won on 11th September 2001. The goal was terror. And now the Americans are terrified. You've lost the war on terror, America.

KERSPLAT! · 16-09-2015 02:38PM

I've no issue with the school and the police being cautious but after questioning the student and I assume the school he should have been released, end of, happy days.

Instead they suspend the child and say there is a possibility that he'll face changes for making a hoax bomb, what the actual fúck!? Clowns.

asherbassad · 16-09-2015 02:42PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Why are people hoping he sues?

Because the police force was too cautious? Their job is to investigate suspicious behaviour. He was carrying a device that looked suspicious in a country where sadly schoolkids have murdered their classmates time and again.

Should he sue his parents for allowing him to bring the item to school? Should he sue the engineering teacher for not stepping forward fast enough to clear his name?

Why must people rush to the suing reaction?

So if a kid brought the same gadget to school in Dublin what would your reaction be?

Seems there's always an excuse or an apology for the galactic retardation of the American reaction to things and the fantasyland view they have about everything.

Here's a few more for ya. i'd like to hear your justifications for these:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/student-arrested-for-burping-lawsuit-claims/

He could have ingested anthrax and was threatening to kill the whole school with a belch, right?

What's your opinion of this one:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/cops-called-for-school-kiss-657831

How about this one:

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/01/02/charlton-library-sends-police-to-collect-overdue-books-from-5-year-old/

Sending the cops to a 5 year-old's house because her library books were overdue.

No doubt you'll find some justification for it. Personally I'd send round a cake to congratulate the little girl for availing of the public library rather than playing xbox.

A few more for your enjoyment:

http://www.activistpost.com/2012/04/10-disgusting-examples-of-very-young.html

asherbassad · 16-09-2015 02:45PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I hope the school join the parents in to any action. They should do so to make parents more cautious about what their kids bring to school.

Litigation all round solves every problem...

Massive lawsuits might put the brakes on colossal stupidity and those that defend it no matter how flabbergasting it is.

Knasher · 16-09-2015 02:51PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Because the police force was too cautious? Their job is to investigate suspicious behaviour. He was carrying a device that looked suspicious in a country where sadly schoolkids have murdered their classmates time and again.

Obviously the police should have responded. But really it doesn't sound like anybody ever thought that this was dangerous. The teacher saw it in class, confiscated it because it looked weird and they probably have rules on that, but kept teaching with the "bomb" in the class till the end of the period. Then it went to the principle, who should have just consulted the engineering teacher and then dropped it, but maybe there is a policy to ring the police, who then pulled him out of class later in the day. But at no point did they feel the need to evacuate the school or anything else.

Also, it is extremely likely that the breadboards and simple electronics that would have been a part of his clock, are all in the school as teaching materials in the physics/engineering labs. So he is effectively bringing school material, to school.

And to top it all off, he ended up with a suspension, the principle really crossed the line between overly cautious, and just obstinate there. And he is possibly facing charges. But well I guess that will teach the kid for trying to learn on his own....

16-09-2015 02:55PM

Has "blown out of proportion" been used yet? If not, I'd like to state that I think this bomb story has been blown out of proportion.

Zillah · 16-09-2015 03:10PM

Boring username wrote: »

Dave Smith could be a Muslim also. Nice bit of racial profiling there...

What point do you think you're making here? He has a Muslim sounding name so they treated him badly. Someone called Dave Smith would not have been treated like that.

Deleted User wrote: »

I hope the school join the parents in to any action. They should do so to make parents more cautious about what their kids bring to school.

Litigation all round solves every problem...

Neither he nor his parents did anything wrong.

Paramite Pie · 16-09-2015 03:28PM

allibastor wrote: »

What would have happened if he DID bring a bomb to school, and the teacher knew it but said nothing?

The teacher could easily have spoken to the engineering teacher who had previously seen the clock (and i presume already examined it!).

The teacher can say something without accusing the kid directly. We're not asking that she does nothing, just not go overboard either.

Muslim school boy arrested Texas

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