Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 (*EVERYONE READ MOD POST in OP)

slingerz · 14-09-2015 06:53AM

Wonder if he will change it up much on Thuraday to get a morale boosting win or play a lot of fringe players ahead of the game next Sunday?

punk_one82 · 14-09-2015 06:54AM

slingerz wrote: »

Wonder if he will change it up much on Thuraday to get a morale boosting win or play a lot of fringe players ahead of the game next Sunday?

IMO we need to put out a strong side and do everything we can to get a convincing win.

Vicxas · 14-09-2015 06:55AM

After the weekend, Klopp must be sitting at home sitting by the phone like this:

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Sappy404 · 14-09-2015 07:35AM

FSG have just sacked and hired half a dozen people for Rodgers, not to mention brought in half a team's worth of players for him. We're 5 games into a tough start to a 9-month campaign. Why on earth does anyone think they're contemplating replacing Rodgers already?

RayCon · 14-09-2015 07:36AM

Is he gone yet ?

Mumha · 14-09-2015 07:39AM

slingerz wrote: »

Wonder if he will change it up much on Thuraday to get a morale boosting win or play a lot of fringe players ahead of the game next Sunday?

It's a great opportunity to start two new centre halves. While everyone was criticising Lovren, rightly, that useless time bomb beside him is every bit as bad. If Rodgers doesn't make the changes, as well as playing players in their proper positions, then he will have learnt nothing and it will be time to go. Even Thommo was just on the radio saying that he'll be gone if he hasn't sorted it by the derby.

I'd start Gomez and Sakho on Thursday.

Mumha · 14-09-2015 07:42AM

Sappy404 wrote: »

FSG have just sacked and hired half a dozen people for Rodgers, not to mention brought in half a team's worth of players for him. We're 5 games into a tough start to a 9-month campaign. Why on earth does anyone think they're contemplating replacing Rodgers already?

They won't be yet, but it's the manner of the defeats that is most worrying. Don't forget Sturridge, Henderson and Coutinho have to come back in.

Grayditch · 14-09-2015 08:01AM

Sappy404 wrote: »

FSG have just sacked and hired half a dozen people for Rodgers, not to mention brought in half a team's worth of players for him. We're 5 games into a tough start to a 9-month campaign. Why on earth does anyone think they're contemplating replacing Rodgers already?

I'm not sure anyone is saying they actually are, but I'm pretty sure everyone is saying they should be.

corwill · 14-09-2015 08:02AM

Sappy404 wrote: »

FSG have just sacked and hired half a dozen people for Rodgers, not to mention brought in half a team's worth of players for him. We're 5 games into a tough start to a 9-month campaign. Why on earth does anyone think they're contemplating replacing Rodgers already?

Because it's clear as day that doing all of that has already proved to be a mistake?

Vicxas · 14-09-2015 08:35AM

Joe.ie have extracts from Stevie G's new book, and its pretty cringeworthy to read how desperate the club sound:

Story here

"Our target in 2014 was ridiculously optimistic. Brendan asked me to take a crack at trying to talk Toni Kroos into signing for Liverpool.

"He smiled when I said we’d be pi**ing into the wind with this one. We both admired Kroos immensely. I knew Real Madrid were gearing up to make Bayern Munich an offer and so I felt a bit awkward when I texted Kroos. The German was on his way to winning the World Cup with his country and Real were the champions of Europe. But God loves a trier, and so I gave it a whirl.

"Some of the best footballers in the world can also be the most respectful. Kroos didn’t make me feel like I was a total idiot. But, of course, he would soon sign for Real Madrid. We had a nice little exchange of texts and I said well done and good luck."

ThunbergsAreGo · 14-09-2015 08:36AM

Grayditch wrote: »

I'm not sure anyone is saying they actually are, but I'm pretty sure everyone is saying they should be.

The time to do it was the end of last year. After the 6-1 defeat all supporters would have been happy to see the back of him.

How do Liverpool score a goal and what is our plan to win games? I have no idea!

OwaynOTT · 14-09-2015 08:39AM

Just because one puts their hand on the hot range (one not being aware it was lit), doesn't mean that one should leave it there.
They will only get burnt more.

brevity · 14-09-2015 08:41AM

I'm not sure if it goes on at other clubs but asking Gerrard to text players asking them to sign is a bit...small time.

I mean, are we at a teenage disco, getting our buddy to ask the girl to dance with us?

J Mysterio · 14-09-2015 08:44AM

naughtb4 wrote: »

The time to do it was the end of last year. After the 6-1 defeat all supporters would have been happy to see the back of him

He's in a much worse position in my eyes now than he was after Stoke. Has had all summer to get who he wants and has now got two batterings in a row.

Daemonic · 14-09-2015 08:44AM

brevity wrote: »

I'm not sure if it goes on at other clubs but asking Gerrard to text players asking them to sign is a bit...small time.

I mean, are we at a teenage disco, getting our buddy to ask the girl to dance with us?

He was the highest profile person at the club at the time so I can see why he was asked, but that really is where you need a DoF with proper clout in the footballing world to be doing your business, so yeah, small time.

LuckyLloyd · 14-09-2015 08:47AM

brevity wrote: »

I'm not sure if it goes on at other clubs but asking Gerrard to text players asking them to sign is a bit...small time.

I mean, are we at a teenage disco, getting our buddy to ask the girl to dance with us?

'Will ya meet me mate...me manager?'

Nerdlingr · 14-09-2015 08:51AM

Win the two home games coming up and things will be looking brighter again.
As bad a performance as it was, I still think Rodgers should at least get till Christmas and see where we are then. The senior players like Skrtel and Lucas badly need to look at themselves. Where was the ledaership on the pitch the last day? Where was the roaring and shouting? the organising players at set pieces? Who was our player that was gonna grab the game and wrestle it back?
Its amazing how much we rely on one player (coutinho) for that bit of creative spark to get us going. Ibe surely has to start the upcoming games. We saw what young did for them coming on and having a go at full backs, we need that in our play right now. It could be a case of going back to the 3-5-2 / 3-4-3 to get us out of this little rut we're in.

super_furry · 14-09-2015 08:55AM

J Mysterio wrote: »

He's in a much worse position in my eyes now than he was after Stoke. Has had all summer to get who he wants and has now got two batterings in a row.

Not just two batterings, but two battering and three piss poor performances. His team selection and tactics prove he's learned nothing over the summer.

cj maxx · 14-09-2015 08:57AM

Nerdlingr wrote: »

Win the two home games coming up and things will be looking brighter again.
As bad a performance as it was, I still think Rodgers should at least get till Christmas and see where we are then. The senior players like Skrtel and Lucas badly need to look at themselves. Where was the ledaership on the pitch the last day? Where was the roaring and shouting? the organising players at set pieces? Who was our player that was gonna grab the game and wrestle it back?
Its amazing how much we rely on one player (coutinho) for that bit of creative spark to get us going. Ibe surely has to start the upcoming games. We saw what young did for them coming on and having a go at full backs, we need that in our play right now. It could be a case of going back to the 3-5-2 / 3-4-3 to get us out of this little rut we're in.

Agree. We should get in a winger, at least 20 m pounds worth to relieve pressure and attack .. Oh wait !:(

googled eyes · 14-09-2015 09:06AM

I'd be very worried about giving him until Christmas. We've alot of games to come and if he can't get his **** together enough to plan for midweek games we could easily be the wrong end of the table by New Years.

BoardsMember · 14-09-2015 09:09AM

super_furry wrote: »

Not just two batterings, but two battering and three piss poor performances. His team selection and tactics prove he's learned nothing over the summer.

Exactly. It just reinforces what a lot have suspected for a long time, that he has no idea what he's doing, how to set up the team to get the most out of the players, how to get good players playing well, how to add some fight and bite into the team. We're awful to watch, and we're making zero progress, in fact we seem to be regressing.

Nerdlingr · 14-09-2015 09:13AM

As was pointed out before the game, he had 6 new players in his starting 11 on Saturday. Whatever way you look at it, its gonna take some time to gel and get a bit of cohesiveness about the team. We're 5 games into the season and have two bad results. It was only 2 games ago the same players were being lauded for their display against Arsenal. I'd give the guy time to get it right. Obviously if things are going down the sh*tter in a months time then it may be time to act, but lets not jump the gun just yet. As I said, win our two upcoming home games and lets see where we're at then.

Agent Coulson · 14-09-2015 09:13AM

So the manager asked a player to tap up another player isn't that against FIFA rules or something.

I'm sure Klopp, Ancelotti or De Boer wouldn't need to to ask a player to do that.

Sappy404 · 14-09-2015 09:14AM

corwill wrote: »

Because it's clear as day that doing all of that has already proved to be a mistake?

So, you're FSG. You're world-renowned sports team comes very close to winning their first title in a generation and you give the manager a lucrative new deal. Your team then loses its star player, your braintrust signs a bunch of overpriced no-marks and your star striker is injured long-term; the team plays dreadfully for 3 months.

But you stick with your man.

Things improve slightly for a few months but it all goes to hell again; scraping a place in Europe and capitulating in the last few matches, including a new low 6-1 defeat on the last day.

However, you decide again to back your manager - big time.

You sack everyone around him and hire replacements and promote coaches internally. You make a windfall selling your best player for the second year in a row, again reinvesting every penny plus tens of millions of your own money in rebuilding the squad. After a difficult fixture list is drawn, the season starts with a win at the scene of the team's most humiliating defeat last season. Your captain gets injured, your star striker is recovering from his latest surgery, and you pick up a 2nd win, followed by a decent point away to title contenders Arsenal. A poor home display results in a heavy defeat, and a loss at the home of your biggest rivals, this one also without your best player, sees them go three points ahead of you into 2nd.

But your captain will be back soon. Your star striker is back training regularly, and your best player has served his suspension.

It's now you sack your manager? After 5 games? After 2 defeats? Leicester are 15 places above Chelsea. You think the season so far can tell you something worth throwing away the millions and millions you've just invested? You think it's already worth putting millions more into sackings, hiring a new manager and an entire new backroom? You think bringing in another 5-6 players in January for this new man is the wise thing to do? Please.

Even if his days are numbered, even if Klopp is breathing down his neck or making eyes at FSG, even if tepid 1-0 wins against the shíter teams in the league are all the fans have to enjoy, Rodgers won't be sacked for a long time yet.

googled eyes · 14-09-2015 09:14AM

Just watching again.

Benteke's goal was beautiful.

Really wish the papers hadn't serialised Gerrard's book. The club doesn't need his " Dirty laundry " being aired right now( I know I shared a link on Saturday night but I was being flippant)

J Mysterio · 14-09-2015 09:15AM

What the fck is Markovic doing over in Fenerbahce now? He should have been placed against Bordeaux. We need that width he provides, never mind healthy competition.

brevity · 14-09-2015 09:18AM

Sappy404 wrote: »

So, you're FSG. You're world-renowned sports team comes very close to winning their first title in a generation and you give the manager a lucrative new deal. Your team then loses its star player, your braintrust signs a bunch of overpriced no-marks and your star striker is injured long-term; the team plays dreadfully for 3 months.

But you stick with your man.

Things improve slightly for a few months but it all goes to hell again; scraping a place in Europe and capitulating in the last few matches, including a new low 6-1 defeat on the last day.

However, you decide again to back your manager - big time.

You sack everyone around him and hire replacements and promote coaches internally. You make a windfall selling your best player for the second year in a row, again reinvesting every penny plus tens of millions of your own money in rebuilding the squad. After a difficult fixture list is drawn, the season starts with a win at the scene of the team's most humiliating defeat last season. Your captain gets injured, your star striker is recovering from his latest surgery, and you pick up a 2nd win, followed by a decent point away to title contenders Arsenal. A poor home display results in a heavy defeat, and a loss at the home of your biggest rivals, this one also without your best player, sees them go three points ahead of you into 2nd.

But your captain will be back soon. Your star striker is back training regularly, and your best player has served his suspension.

It's now you sack your manager? After 5 games? After 2 defeats? Leicester are 15 places above Chelsea. You think the season so far can tell you something worth throwing away the millions and millions you've just invested? You think it's already worth putting millions more into sackings, hiring a new manager and an entire new backroom? You think bringing in another 5-6 players in January for this new man is the wise thing to do? Please.

Even if his days are numbered, even if Klopp is breathing down his neck or making eyes at FSG, even if tepid 1-0 wins against the shíter teams in the league are all the fans have to enjoy, Rodgers won't be sacked for a long time yet.

It's not after 5 games. It's after 4 seasons and nothing to show for it.

kfallon · 14-09-2015 09:21AM

Nerdlingr wrote: »

The senior players like Skrtel and Lucas badly need to look at themselves. Where was the ledaership on the pitch the last day? Where was the roaring and shouting? the organising players at set pieces? Who was our player that was gonna grab the game and wrestle it back?

I mentioned this a few weeks ago, with Gerrard gone we have no leaders in the team! Kolo Touré would probably be the closest we have to a 'Leader' in the squad. The likes of Milner and Henderson need to be stepping up to the plate!

I wouldn't mind seeing 2 of Touré/Gomez/Sakho starting the next few games at CB. Lovren is useless and Skrtel should be ashamed of himself after the 3rd goal the other day.

It's gonna be a long season!

Sappy404 · 14-09-2015 09:27AM

brevity wrote: »

It's not after 5 games. It's after 4 seasons and nothing to show for it.

I'm not saying he deserves to stay, or that FSG are right to have backed him. I'm saying it's naive to think FSG would sack him 5 games into the season after investing so heavily in the summer.

Luckycharms_74 · 14-09-2015 09:31AM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Cloudy N Rainy will be mentioned for Liverpool job if Leiester City continue to impress under him. I can't recall him ever winning a trophy for anyone though.

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