Is "Dublin" a real place?

endacl · 09-09-2015 11:28PM

Keplar240B wrote: »

That's good. That's very good. But how do you know that anything else exists?

Photos. Quod erat demonstrandum.

10-09-2015 12:00AM

endacl wrote: »

Photos. Quod erat demonstrandum.

Aren't you going to answer the question about this """"grandmother"""" you claim to have photographed?

Oh wait, that was someone else. Oops, sorry.

Or maybe the """"""grandmother"""""" in question doesn't exist.

Or perhaps we can't find out if the """""""""grandmother"""""""" exists or not without causing her to cease existing.

Is she possibly Schrödinger's Grandmother?

Keplar240B · 10-09-2015 12:09AM

endacl wrote: »

Photos. Quod erat demonstrandum.

Now, listen, listen. Here's the big question. How do you know that the evidence your sensory apparatus reveals to you is correct? What I'm getting at is this. The only experience that is directly available to you is your sensory data. This sensory data is merely a stream of electrical impulses that stimulate your "brain". You really don't know what the outside universe is really like.

Overheal · 10-09-2015 01:45AM

Keplar240B wrote: »

Now, listen, listen. Here's the big question. How do you know that the evidence your sensory apparatus reveals to you is correct? What I'm getting at is this. The only experience that is directly available to you is your sensory data. This sensory data is merely a stream of electrical impulses that stimulate your "brain". You really don't know what the outside universe is really like.

Are you even able to verify that it's real sensory data, or that your "brain" is even made up of cells or other flesh?

kippy · 10-09-2015 06:55AM

This is getting deep.

looksee · 10-09-2015 07:14AM

kippy wrote: »

This is getting deep.

Like a treacle well.

Shrap · 10-09-2015 07:27AM

Notavirus.exe wrote: »

Actually, I believe there is. I know a few city dwellers, they're all atheist.

Nearly every rural person (like myself) has some faith.

I am a rural person living in a village of about 500. I know many atheists and more religious, so yes there are more religious people in my area. However, I would say that the proportion of atheists to religious people is approximately the same countrywide, so I dispute your anecdotal evidence and present my own instead.

So, again.....,""""NO""". And my """proof""" is as good as yours.

magicbastarder · 10-09-2015 07:47AM

can someone please verify the existence of boards.ie before i continue posting here?

Captain Flaps · 10-09-2015 08:20AM

ffs.

galljga1 · 10-09-2015 08:28AM

endacl wrote: »

Photos. Quod erat demonstrandum.

Tá sé mahogany gasspipe.

lazygal · 10-09-2015 09:18AM

Overheal wrote: »

Are you even able to verify that it's real sensory data, or that your "brain" is even made up of cells or other flesh?

How can you know its even called a "brain"?

Mickeroo · 10-09-2015 10:06AM

lazygal wrote: »

How can you know its even called a "brain"?

Jaffa Cakes.

galljga1 · 10-09-2015 10:08AM

Mickeroo wrote: »

Jaffa Cakes.

Yeah, that makes about as much sense as the previous couple of pages.

Keplar240B · 10-09-2015 10:34AM

You are all false data.
Therefore I shall ignore you
False data can act only as a distraction. Therefore, I shall refuse to perceive. The only thing that exists is myself.

Notavirus.exe · 10-09-2015 11:35AM

What's with all the "s?

endacl · 10-09-2015 11:36AM

Keplar240B wrote: »

You are all false data.
Therefore I shall ignore you
False data can act only as a distraction. Therefore, I shall refuse to perceive. The only thing that exists is myself.

Link to a photo of said potentially habitable exoplanet please. Not an "artist's impression".

No photo, no Keplar 240B.

robindch · 10-09-2015 11:49AM

Wrong thread.

endacl · 10-09-2015 11:53AM

robindch wrote: »

Wrong thread.

Has been since the granny bit.

Biscuits?

Notavirus.exe · 10-09-2015 11:59AM

endacl wrote: »

Has been since the granny bit.

Biscuits?

The "granny bit" was on-topic. My grandmother is a fine and happy woman. She is also atheist, which makes me think "I wonder what gives her a reason not to complain about life not having any meaning".

endacl · 10-09-2015 12:10PM

Notavirus.exe wrote: »

The "granny bit" was on-topic. My grandmother is a fine and happy woman. She is also atheist, which makes me think "I wonder what gives her a reason not to complain about life not having any meaning".

Have you spoken to her about it yet?

robindch · 10-09-2015 12:12PM

Notavirus.exe wrote: »

She is also atheist, which makes me think "I wonder what gives her a reason not to complain about life not having any meaning".

Perhaps your granny doesn't actually think what you think she thinks.

Your granny, after all, might be thinking something more like:

Granny wrote:

Isn't it great that I can choose what's important to me rather than having to live by a set of rules dreamed up by a group of Middle Eastern Bronze Age sheepherders, and selectively misquoted for their own benefit by an unelected, unenlightened, unrepresentative, sexist group of elderly religious cranks?

Notavirus.exe · 10-09-2015 12:13PM

endacl wrote: »

Have you spoken to her about it yet?

Too embarrassing. She usually watches TV all day and she has a dog and my granddad is also alive so she has plenty to keep her occupied. :P

kylith · 10-09-2015 12:46PM

Notavirus.exe wrote: »

Too embarrassing. She usually watches TV all day and she has a dog and my granddad is also alive so she has plenty to keep her occupied. :P

You're embarrassed to ask her how she's happy when she's an atheist because she has a dog and she watches telly?

Maybe that's the key. I also watch television and am fond of dogs; perhaps dogs and television are what stop atheists going on murderous rampages.

MrPudding · 10-09-2015 12:46PM

Lord Riverside wrote: »

It is ? can you provide it, because if he did say that, it would be further confirmation that he's more interested in histrionics than science.

I don't think he will be able to prove it. I believe the quote from actually from Christopher Hitchins and I believe it was actually "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." I think the reference to extraordinary evidence here was not that there was a super high level of evidence required for some claims, as you point out, scientific evidence should suffice, but was aimed more at the level of the people he was debating. So, for example, when someone claims the resection happened and puts forward the bible as 'evidence' that is where this phrase would have been deployed.

endacl wrote: »

Anecdote. The enemy of fact.

But he has provided several , and I am sure I read somewhere that the plural of anecdote was data.

MrP

Notavirus.exe · 10-09-2015 01:03PM

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" is a stupid statement and is completely silly.

robindch · 10-09-2015 01:58PM

Notavirus.exe wrote: »

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" is a stupid statement and is completely silly.

You know, now that I read it in that light, you're quite correct.

I can't imagine how I've been wrong for so long!

10-09-2015 02:35PM

kylith wrote: »

You're embarrassed to ask her how she's happy when she's an atheist because she has a dog and she watches telly?

Maybe that's the key. I also watch television and am fond of dogs; perhaps dogs and television are what stop atheists going on murderous rampages.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_qvy82U4RE

Mr. CooL ICE · 10-09-2015 02:41PM

Notavirus.exe wrote: »

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" is a stupid statement and is completely silly.

Why is it a stupid statement and silly?

Notavirus.exe · 10-09-2015 02:50PM

robindch wrote: »

You know, now that I read it in that light, you're quite correct.

I can't imagine how I've been wrong for so long!

Sarcasm?

Nicolas Cage wrote: »

Why is it a stupid statement and silly?

Explain to me why extraordinary claims would need extraordinary evidence?

Give me another example of an extraordinary claim and the extraordinary evidence put forward to support it.

Notavirus.exe · 10-09-2015 02:56PM

God existing wouldn't be an extraordinary claim, unless scientists have come up with striking evidence that the cause of the universe was by complete chance.

God creating the universe vs the universe creating itself is more of a 50-50 thing and so you can't really call either of them extraordinary. Think about it.

EDIT: Let me give an example of a claim that would need extraordinary evidence.

Here it goes: We know that Hitler ordered the Holocaust. Claiming that Hitler wasn't the reason behind it would be an extraordinary claim and would require extraordinary evidence. This can be applied to God existing vs God not existing. We have no proof the universe created itself nor do we have proof God doesn't exist. The science behind it is agnostic, so claiming God does exist wouldn't be considered extraordinary. It WOULD be considered extraordinary to claim that God exists if science was more atheist (as in, science shows proof God doesn't exist.

I hope I'm making myself understandable. Obviously you'd need evidence to prove that God exists but you wouldn't need extraordinary evidence.

Is "Dublin" a real place?

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