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work/life balance

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭Zipppy


    Interesting thread....
    Stress, and specifically work related stress, will make you ill...even kill you eventually. Maybe it's ok when you're 25 or 35 but when you hit 45 you need to start thinking ' my health is my wealth'...
    I'm lucky enough to be able to walk to work in about 25 mins...no hassle, no traffic jams, no petrol stations zero commuting costs and I get lots of exercise and no commute stress...wouldn't give it up to move to a job where I needed to commute across town for any money.
    So by all means work hard and long when you're young but slow down when older and learn to enjoy life .. Just as it is :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 263 ✭✭eet fuk


    I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would sacrifice the best years of their lives (20's, 30's in terms of energy and freedom imo) to earn as much as possible and be 'comfortable' in their old age. Fair enough if you have kids or whatever, but for anyone who is single/childless - earn your money and enjoy your life! Get a job that gives you personal satisfaction and that you take pride in! Go on holidays and pursue your hobbies!
    If you spend your time becoming skilled and mentally/socially adjusted then you will likely be able to earn money until a ripe old age anyway. I would hate myself if I was wasting my time at 27, in an office I hate with people I'm indifferent to, just so I can sit on my hole at 70 and watch the clouds go by until death (bit dramatic but you get my point!).

    I work in engineering and I honestly don't count the hours I work. I might leave at 5 some days, 7 or 8 on others. I stay because I'm enjoying what I'm working on and I'm doing it for myself! I went to college to study something that I find interesting, so that I could get a job doing something that I find interesting. All the while improving my skills and increasing my experience with no mental anguish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 347 ✭✭commonsense.


    Always remember, it's not the hours you put in, it's what you put into the hours.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    eet fuk wrote: »
    I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would sacrifice the best years of their lives (20's, 30's in terms of energy and freedom imo) to earn as much as possible and be 'comfortable' in their old age. Fair enough if you have kids or whatever, but for anyone who is single/childless - earn your money and enjoy your life! Get a job that gives you personal satisfaction and that you take pride in! Go on holidays and pursue your hobbies!
    If you spend your time becoming skilled and mentally/socially adjusted then you will likely be able to earn money until a ripe old age anyway. I would hate myself if I was wasting my time at 27, in an office I hate with people I'm indifferent to, just so I can sit on my hole at 70 and watch the clouds go by until death (bit dramatic but you get my point!).

    I work in engineering and I honestly don't count the hours I work. I might leave at 5 some days, 7 or 8 on others. I stay because I'm enjoying what I'm working on and I'm doing it for myself! I went to college to study something that I find interesting, so that I could get a job doing something that I find interesting. All the while improving my skills and increasing my experience with no mental anguish.



    I don't have parents anymore to bail me out. From when I got my first job at 16, anything I earned was mine, for online shopping, shoes, drinking - whatever I wanted to do really. Then if I needed to go to the doctor, or the dentist, or get new glasses, my dad would dig deep and fund the nessessities. As a result, I never saved, and never found myself in a position that I wasn't comfortable.

    When my dad got sick, I left my job to mind him. I didn't sign on social welfare, and my dad kept me in money, so it was fine. Until he was dying, the cash ran out at home, and the bank/credit union wouldn't release any more cash because he wasn't able to go in and sign for the withdrawal.

    That left me with NOTHING. No money, lead up to Christmas (like three weeks to go). I had 2 of my own dogs to feed, a stray dog who had given birth and was feeding 6 puppies, not a cent to my name. I was having some pretty personal things going on with myself too which meant I needed to see my doctor a bit, and was being referred to a clinic 40 mins away from where I was from. Had to keep my dads clothes washed and dried, And my brother was giving me 50 euro a week to try keep myself fed, esb paid, dogs fed, washing stuff bought. By the time the bills were paid and dogs were fed, there was between 8-12 euro left for food for me.

    When my dad died - I had no money for flowers, no money for the food/drinks afterwards. My brother had to pay all that. I was literally never as destitute in my life, and I had a roof over my head and didn't have to worry about a mortgage. And still, it was horrific. Not even being able to go to the doctor when something quite serious happened.

    Now that I'm 100% on my own, I don't want ever to be in that position again. I save now because if my dog needs the vet, I can bring him. If I need to spend 400 euro getting my wisdom teeth out, I can do it. If I need a doctor, I can just go. When my friends kids birthdays come around, I can get them a birthday present. When the unforeseen happens, i am prepared.

    I can work long hours. I can put in the effort to get the return. I might not be able to do that in 25 years time, and I don't want to be stuck at 52, wondering where the mortgage is going to come from, wearing a coat to bed because I can't afford to hear the house. Taking cold showers, every 2 days. Having absolutely no security.

    That's terrifying. Being caught like that with no way out. I grew up taking a warm house, full fridge, designer glasses/clothes/shoes, cars taxed and insured for me, for granted. I'm still fond of maintaining that lifestyle, and want to do the same for my family, having them grow up not worried about money or constant penny pinching for essential things. And that takes me sacrificing just a little bit, for an even better return.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 263 ✭✭eet fuk


    I don't have parents anymore to bail .......

    I totally appreciate that, 100%. Bad things can and will happen unfortunately. I am not for one second saying that nobody should save money to have a safety net, as I think everyone should live within their means. This thread is not about that however. When it comes down to it, I think that everyone should try to find a job that makes them happy over one that makes them miserable for a few extra euro. If that means that all you have to your name is a studio apartment and a used frying pan, so be it. Better than having designer handbags and crippling anxiety due to work. If you earn less - spend less. If you're worried about the future then avoid the holidays and hobbies, just do what makes you happy. Save your money instead and work a job you like.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    But you need to do what you need to do for short term, means to an end. Obviously if you're in a situation whereby your job is causing you health problems/really really unhappy and miserable, then get out, for sure. No jobs worth your sanity. However, if it's just a job you don't enjoy, but pays good - I'd be enclined to say stick it out as long as you can, milk as much as you can from it, and move on then when it gets too much or you find your dream job.

    I guess everyone will have different priorities. Mine personally would to have my own savings, a beautiful house that I'm really proud of, nice things, being warm and having somewhere I'm comfortable happy and safe in, after a long day of work.

    Again I'm lucky because I do actually enjoy my job. And I got this job after spending 4 years working else where in jobs that I couldn't even begin to tell you how much I despised them, built my knowledge and experience and landed the job of my dreams.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 263 ✭✭eet fuk


    Ah yeah, like I agree with you on everything there. It is worth spending a few years in a sh*t job if you have ambitions to do something that suits you better. I guess I'm talking about the situation whereby someone works a crappy job from 18-60 just because it pays the bills and they are "comfortable".
    As I'm sure you know, working a job that you enjoys gives you a totally different outlook on life. There can be an argument made for spending a few years on a low salary but developing your skills so that you can earn big in the future, as opposed to the other way around.
    Like you say though, different approaches suit different people - such is life!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,310 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    I guess everyone will have different priorities. Mine personally would to have my own savings, a beautiful house that I'm really proud of, nice things, being warm and having somewhere I'm comfortable happy and safe in, after a long day of work.
    You need an end goal in life. For you, it's a house. And to get that house, you can prioritise differently, as once you get that house, you can slow down a bit, unlike those with no end goal, and will plough forward at top speed come what may.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 JPWOctane


    lufties wrote: »
    Thats the million dollar question. My passion is surfing and holistic things like yoga, psychedelic music, eating healthy etc (I'm prob a bit of a so called hippy at heart). My job isn't stressful but its working with a big airline in London where I'm just a number, Its quite mundane to be fair as I work in quality assurance. I can put away about 800 pounds a month plus pension and voluntary contributions, so I'm not too badly off.

    I'm half thinking of joining an airline in the southwest of england, the money is 15k less but its working on small jets with better career progression in a better working environment. I'd probably have a better quality of life in the shorter term but obviously the money is a sacrifice.

    I do like my comforts like healthy food and a few posh beers :), but I don't have any majorly expensive hobbies.

    It's a hell of a long time since I moved from Bristol to Reading (commuting to near Heathrow) but having lived in the Southwest and the London commuter belt, I'd recommend the former. No idea what relative property prices etc. are these days but i imagine your money will go a lot further in the Southwest.

    Do you have many family/friends in or around London that the move would take you away from?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭VulcanRaving


    Stress and sitting at a desk for 8 hours a day does nothing for your health or most people's happiness. If you still don't want to be doing what you are doing now til 65, get out of it but at least think of what resources you will need to do what you really want and work towards it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭lufties


    JPWOctane wrote: »
    It's a hell of a long time since I moved from Bristol to Reading (commuting to near Heathrow) but having lived in the Southwest and the London commuter belt, I'd recommend the former. No idea what relative property prices etc. are these days but i imagine your money will go a lot further in the Southwest.

    Do you have many family/friends in or around London that the move would take you away from?

    My girlfriend lives here in her own gaff. It's actually Exeter, probably not a patch on Bristol I'm thinking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭Antarctica


    eet fuk wrote: »

    I work in engineering and I honestly don't count the hours I work. I might leave at 5 some days, 7 or 8 on others. I stay because I'm enjoying what I'm working on and I'm doing it for myself!

    What time do you start at? Some jobs e.g. construction will have you starting at 7am rather than the typical 9am. And still expect you to stay till at least five.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 263 ✭✭eet fuk


    Antarctica wrote: »
    What time do you start at? Some jobs e.g. construction will have you starting at 7am rather than the typical 9am. And still expect you to stay till at least five.

    Depends, between 8 and 9 typically.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Streetwalker


    I get paid an embarrassing wage but I could care less as im happy out. No work stress to speak of start at 9 and im home at 4:30 most days. Im not a material type of person so it doesn't bother me in the slightest. Do a lot of clothes shopping in the charity shops don't think ive ever spent over 30 euro on a piece of clothing wedding suit aside lol. Once we have enough for food and the kids education im happy out.


  • Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Its not so much the job as what goes on in the rest of you life, for example being able to walk to work and having a stress free commute verses a hellish hour and a half commute, what sort of home life do you have, what sort of hobbies and interests do you have outside work all affect how you feel about your job so sometime its not so much the actual job but what going on outside you job.


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