Violent assault leaves two Gardaí in hospital

Little CuChulainn · 03-09-2015 09:24PM #1

http://www.herald.ie/news/garda-has-facial-surgery-after-vicious-gang-assault-31498326.html

The only punishment currently available for these lads is a Juvenile caution or a trip to Oberstown boarding school, which is currently short staffed due to staff being assaulted. 31 serious assaults since March.

What can be done with kids this far gone?

One eyed Jack · 03-09-2015 09:28PM

Nothing much can be done with juvenile offenders. Better training and support for Gardaí though would go a long way to training them to kick the utter living shyte out of these scrotes.

foggy_lad · 03-09-2015 09:32PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

http://www.herald.ie/news/garda-has-facial-surgery-after-vicious-gang-assault-31498326.html

The only punishment currently available for these lads is a Juvenile caution or a trip to Oberstown boarding school, which is currently short staffed due to staff being assaulted. 31 serious assaults since March.

What can be done with kids this far gone?

Shackle them like convicts on death row and parade them around the country for a few months. But seriously name and shame them so decent people can know to avoid them.

Cienciano · 03-09-2015 10:27PM

Regularly see a gang of kids on scramblers in Corkagh Park, shower of little scumbags, always hope one of them comes off.

NachoBusiness · 03-09-2015 11:03PM

Loads of them down the docks/sheriff st also.
The roar of those little things too, they hardly go unnoticed.

AudreyHepburn · 03-09-2015 11:09PM

These little thugs should be named and shamed then locked up and the keys thrown away.

03-09-2015 11:11PM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Nothing much can be done with juvenile offenders. Better training and support for Gardaí though would go a long way to training them to kick the utter living shyte out of these scrotes.

Gardai kicking the **** oit of kids?

Roll on YouTube videos, social media & ombudsman investigation.
The public need to decide what kind of police force they actually want.

Pat Mustard · 03-09-2015 11:18PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

What can be done with kids this far gone?

Maybe reconsider arming the Gardai.

Those kids would not have tried that against armed Gardai and if they did, they'd have come off second best.

One eyed Jack · 03-09-2015 11:35PM

bubblypop wrote: »

Gardai kicking the **** oit of kids?

Roll on YouTube videos, social media & ombudsman investigation.

Gardaí having the training to properly subdue their assailants then, with the full support and resources of the AGS behind them.

The public need to decide what kind of police force they actually want.

An effective one would be a good start, in conjunction with an effective judicial system. That'd go a long way towards alleviating the issues with juvenile offenders and the turnstile justice system.

mynamejeff · 03-09-2015 11:43PM

Pat Mustard wrote: »

Maybe reconsider arming the Gardai.

Those kids would not have tried that against armed Gardai and if they did, they'd have come off second best.

I can hear the out cry now

"Fascist racist Gardai execute innocent underprivileged 16 year old father of 3 who was mearly indulging in his harmless hobby."

Irish people are gas when it comes to law and law enforcement.

Hard core conservatives unless some one tries to apply the said law and order to them.
Then its F the Police and Boys will be boys.

Btw im not sure if firearms are a good idea but tazers are essential for modern law enforcement organisations

Ruu · 03-09-2015 11:46PM

The suspended sentences with someone with 70 or 80 previous convictions has to stop for a start, all too familiar.

Larbre34 · 03-09-2015 11:47PM

bubblypop wrote: »

The public need to decide what kind of police force they actually want.

The Guards arent the problem, or at least arent the primary problem. Its the sentencing and lack of suitable detention.

People will go feral if theres no reason for them not to. No fear, no second thought, no deterrent.

I wouldnt arm Gardaí beyond the non-lethal weapons cos i wouldnt trust them not to have firearms taken off them in attacks such as that one

mcko · 04-09-2015 12:47AM

Feck em corrupt useless shower, only good for policing Irish Water, I have no respect for them, they are corrupt and rotton to the core.

04-09-2015 12:49AM

^^^^^ there's yer problem right there tbh

braniganl · 04-09-2015 04:54AM

How can two male Gardai trained in self defence, and armed with metal batons and pepper spray be that badly assaulted by a group of teenagers? they must be completely out of shape or have misjudged the situation entirely. Neither are great excuses.

Wompa1 · 04-09-2015 05:11AM

braniganl wrote: »

How can two male Gardai trained in self defence, and armed with metal batons and pepper spray be that badly assaulted by a group of teenagers? they must be completely out of shape or have misjudged the situation entirely. Neither are great excuses.

It doesn't so what age they were or how many of them were there. They may have misjudged the situation. Personally, I wouldn't think a bunch of young lads would attack police officers but there ya go...

The Gardai should be able to bring a civil case against the kids or their parents. They most likely don't have anything to give....so take half of it. Garnish their dole until the Gardai have been properly compensated.

DoYouEvenLift · 04-09-2015 05:28AM

Our police getting overpowered by teenagers...lol, if other countries heard this they would laugh at us.

jugger · 04-09-2015 05:56AM

braniganl wrote: »

How can two male Gardai trained in self defence, and armed with metal batons and pepper spray be that badly assaulted by a group of teenagers? they must be completely out of shape or have misjudged the situation entirely. Neither are great excuses.

The garda walk a fine line between using to little or two much force in this case too little

Also everything counts in large amounts so even if they were only four of them the garda were still out numberd two to one

old_aussie · 04-09-2015 05:57AM

Those young thugs are the future of Ireland.

Anarchy on the rise.

Ireland needs to do something about this now or it will just mushroom.

carzony · 04-09-2015 06:19AM

The lad who was responsible for the assault is 15 years of age. From what i've heard the guards tried to pepper spray them and the kids headbutted them with the motorbike helmets..

Read the comments on facebook and you'll soon understand the level of education these kids have.

Cold War Kid · 04-09-2015 06:31AM

Dey dsrv it cuz wtr chargez lol karma

CarrickMcJoe · 04-09-2015 07:25AM

Cold War Kid wrote: »

Dey dsrv it cuz wtr chargez lol karma

Kid, are you typing in the dark again ?

04-09-2015 07:36AM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

These little thugs should be named and shamed then locked up and the keys thrown away.

Jailed for life, that's the one. Excellent.

04-09-2015 07:38AM

These threads always bring out two types of people. Those who advocated locking these people up for life (on what charge exactly?!) and/or baiting the sh1te out of them like a sadistic public flogging and then you have those who will defend the toe rags to the last no matter what.

I don't know which set are worse.

Gooners · 04-09-2015 07:43AM

Omackeral wrote: »

These threads always bring out two types of people. Those who advocated locking these people up for life (on what charge exactly?!) and/or baiting the sh1te out of them like a sadistic public flogging and then you have those who will defend the toe rags to the last no matter what.

I don't know which set are worse.

Defenders of the toe-rags without a doubt.

blade1 · 04-09-2015 07:44AM

carzony wrote: »

The lad who was responsible for the assault is 15 years of age. From what i've heard the guards tried to pepper spray them and the kids headbutted them with the motorbike helmets..

Read the comments on facebook and you'll soon understand the level of education these kids have.

Why would they even try to pepper spray someone wearing a helmet?

antodeco · 04-09-2015 07:44AM

Send them to the army for a year!

blade1 · 04-09-2015 07:46AM

antodeco wrote: »

Send them to the army for a year!

Yes that'll toughen those two guards up!!:)

Little CuChulainn · 04-09-2015 07:59AM

mcko wrote: »

Feck em corrupt useless shower, only good for policing Irish Water, I have no respect for them, they are corrupt and rotton to the core.

It's when people like this pass on their concept of courtesy/respect/decency to their kids that the real issues start.

braniganl wrote: »

How can two male Gardai trained in self defence, and armed with metal batons and pepper spray be that badly assaulted by a group of teenagers? they must be completely out of shape or have misjudged the situation entirely. Neither are great excuses.

From what I understand, the first one was hit with a sucker punch. No warning. The guy tried to get away and when they caught him members of his family interfered and the second one got hit.

defrule · 04-09-2015 08:24AM

Ship them to North Korea.

kupus · 04-09-2015 10:00AM

I've noticed in the years that Im on boards that people are increasing calling for harsher law enforcement.
In the past these scum would be defended by a lot more people claiming that their lives are bad etc etc.

maybe These defenders have grown up and realised their world is not as cozy as they thought it was.
maybe they are sick to death of the stories involving multiple repeat offenders getting a caution.
Remember scum breed like rabbits, coz it's free money. If they had to put food on their own table maybe there would be less scum.

But socialist policy dictates that everybody should be looked after, hence more kids more money houses.

I can understand the reason the government give grants for kids....population boost for ageing workforce.....
But it's the wrong people having kids is the problem.

Solution work for the dole, give grants to get a trade or go to school and get an education.

Violent assault leaves two Gardaí in hospital

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