Eircom to roll out 1Gb/s FTTH to 66 towns

damienirel · 29-08-2015 03:52PM

/\/ollog wrote: »

also remember that site measures in bytes, so 3 MBps = like 31 Mbps while broadband is in bits.

no they don't:
http://ispspeedindex.netflix.com/how-we-calculate-rankings

damienirel · 29-08-2015 03:54PM

Deagol wrote: »

You read the article clearly without understanding that both the journalist and the bonkers.ie representative haven't a scooby-doo what they where talking about.

http://ispspeedindex.netflix.com/

Do you notice something in common with all the countries listed? Not a single countries fastest speed is above 4.5Mbps......

So neither bonkers/irish independent/netflix is telling the truth except you?

OneEightSeven · 29-08-2015 04:11PM

/\/ollog wrote: »

also remember that site measures in bytes, so 3 MBps = like 31 Mbps while broadband is in bits.

So much false information in such a short sentence.

First of all, they measure it in megabits (Mb).
Secondly, 3MB is not, 31mb, it's exactly 24Mb.

There's 8 bits in 1 byte.

1MB = 8Mb
2MB = 16Mb
3MB = 24Mb (ADSL2+'s maximum speed)
12.5MB = 100Mb (VDSL2's maximum)
30MB = 240Mb (UPC's current maximum)
125MB = 1Gb (Eircom and Siro's FTTH speed)

Nollog · 29-08-2015 07:10PM

damienirel wrote: »

no they don't:
http://ispspeedindex.netflix.com/how-we-calculate-rankings

OneEightSeven wrote: »

So much false information in such a short sentence.

First of all, they measure it in megabits (Mb).
Secondly, 3MB is not, 31mb, it's exactly 24Mb.

There's 8 bits in 1 byte.

1MB = 8Mb
2MB = 16Mb
3MB = 24Mb (ADSL2+'s maximum speed)
12.5MB = 100Mb (VDSL2's maximum)
30MB = 240Mb (UPC's current maximum)
125MB = 1Gb (Eircom and Siro's FTTH speed)

The website I viewed had "3.08 MB" when I moused over a point in a graph, therefore, unless they use the wrong connotation, they use Bytes/second in their speeds, which isn't ideal.

And indeed, I did what one might say is a rough easy add a zero to the bit and call it a byte calculation to help people understand a point.

For illustrative purposes:
http://ispspeedindex.netflix.com/country-averages
1. mouse over any dot in the graph for more than a second.
2. keep your mouse there
3. read the number followed by "MBS*"
4. read "SPEED(Mbps*)" above graph.

as I said, less than ideal on that page.

KeRbDoG · 31-08-2015 12:40PM

/\/ollog wrote: »

The website I viewed had "3.08 MB" when I moused over a point in a graph, therefore, unless they use the wrong connotation, they use Bytes/second in their speeds, which isn't ideal.

And indeed, I did what one might say is a rough easy add a zero to the bit and call it a byte calculation to help people understand a point.

For illustrative purposes:
http://ispspeedindex.netflix.com/country-averages
1. mouse over any dot in the graph for more than a second.
2. keep your mouse there
3. read the number followed by "MBS*"
4. read "SPEED(Mbps*)" above graph.

as I said, less than ideal on that page.

They seem to have their terminology all mixed up.
MBS on this page and then Mbps on this page for the same data/results from what I can make out

Thor · 02-09-2015 06:21PM

Is there a current map or detail on the towns getting FTTH.

I doubt it, but there are a good few KN Network vans around the estate doing some work, even digging up the ground in a few few areas. eFibre is already in the area, so wondering what the work is about. they were doing some work outside the estate a few days before hand as well.

irishgeo · 02-09-2015 07:05PM

Whose is doing all digging in castlebar streets. Looks like fibre conduit?

Nollog · 02-09-2015 07:45PM

Thor wrote: »

Is there a current map or detail on the towns getting FTTH.

I doubt it, but there are a good few KN Network vans around the estate doing some work, even digging up the ground in a few few areas. eFibre is already in the area, so wondering what the work is about. they were doing some work outside the estate a few days before hand as well.

http://pressroom.eircom.net/images/uploads/eircom%20FTTH%20Map.pdf

I saw two KN vans in a convoy earlier today. Not been a day since moving here 2 months ago where I haven't seen kn/eircom vans around.

Thor · 02-09-2015 07:51PM

/\/ollog wrote: »

http://pressroom.eircom.net/images/uploads/eircom%20FTTH%20Map.pdf

I saw two KN vans in a convoy earlier today. Not been a day since moving here 2 months ago where I haven't seen kn/eircom vans around.

Yeah, found that map earlier, but was assuming they would be a more up to date one. I know thought more places in Dublin were to have FTTH.

godskitchen · 02-09-2015 11:42PM

irishgeo wrote: »

Whose is doing all digging in castlebar streets. Looks like fibre conduit?

Enet, unfortunately they want €400/month for a 30mbps connection.

Not even close to being at the races with their pricing.

mass_debater · 02-09-2015 11:57PM

godskitchen wrote: »

Enet, unfortunately they want €400/month for a 30mbps connection.

Not even close to being at the races with their pricing.

Uncontended, go ask Eircom for a price for dedicated fibre and it'll be the same

ED E · 03-09-2015 12:50AM

It also probably has a 4-8hr SLA and five 9s + reliability.

celticbhoy27 · 03-09-2015 02:06AM

Got an email to say my area would be having access to 1000mb broadband soon and they woukd contact me if my home was suitable. Should i be excited or take with a large pinch of salt? ( gowran kilkenny)

godskitchen · 03-09-2015 08:05AM

Lads, I know its uncontented, I know about the SLA, I understand them well.

They will be lucky to get a handful of customers in Castlebar.

DoYouEvenLift · 03-09-2015 08:11AM

When are the first areas of this actually launching again? As in, when will the first houses be receiving 1,000Mb speeds? Crazy how they still haven't at least released pricing details, it's all so vague still

ItHurtsWhenIP · 03-09-2015 08:46AM

godskitchen wrote: »

Lads, I know its uncontented, I know about the SLA, I understand them well.

They will be lucky to get a handful of customers in Castlebar.

eNet (partnered with an ISP) are only serving business customers with their fibre solution.

godskitchen · 03-09-2015 08:53AM

MMFITWGDV wrote: »

eNet (partnered with an ISP) are only serving business customers with their fibre solution.

Again, they will be lucky to get a handful of customers for their €1.5m investment.

joe_99 · 03-09-2015 11:21AM

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

When are the first areas of this actually launching again? As in, when will the first houses be receiving 1,000Mb speeds? Crazy how they still haven't at least released pricing details, it's all so vague still

It was launched by eircom Wholesale on Monday so it is available to all resellers now in Sandyford and Wexford. More locations will be available at the end of the month once the 28 day notification period that ComReg insists on expires.

Nollog · 03-09-2015 12:09PM

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

When are the first areas of this actually launching again? As in, when will the first houses be receiving 1,000Mb speeds? Crazy how they still haven't at least released pricing details, it's all so vague still

Belcarra?

ItHurtsWhenIP · 03-09-2015 12:23PM

godskitchen wrote: »

Again, they will be lucky to get a handful of customers for their €1.5m investment.

I don't know about that.

The last place I worked (in Shannon) were paying Verizon nearly €2,000pm for a 4Mbps port on a 10Mbps Access MPLS connection.

I know this is a private circuit into a private cloud, but if we could have had a 250Mbps iVPN for €400pm for the circuit (and whatever bit VzB charged for the privilege of allowing an iVPN), I'd have jumped at it.

domeld · 03-09-2015 02:37PM

joe_99 wrote: »

It was launched by eircom Wholesale on Monday so it is available to all resellers now in Sandyford and Wexford. More locations will be available at the end of the month once the 28 day notification period that ComReg insists on expires.

On UG gateway there is still no new profiles (300Mb and 1000Mb)

godskitchen · 03-09-2015 02:57PM

MMFITWGDV wrote: »

I don't know about that.

The last place I worked (in Shannon) were paying Verizon nearly €2,000pm for a 4Mbps port on a 10Mbps Access MPLS connection.

I know this is a private circuit into a private cloud, but if we could have had a 250Mbps iVPN for €400pm for the circuit (and whatever bit VzB charged for the privilege of allowing an iVPN), I'd have jumped at it.

That's all well and good but €400/month was for 30mbps.

Outside of Baxter and the credit union (who had it installed 2 weeks ago) I can't think of many businesses that need that kind of connection in Castlebar. Even arivo/Connaught Gold and businesses like that don't need it and I can't see them paying more money for less speed. VDSL is more than reliable for 99% of business in Castlebar.

damienirel · 03-09-2015 07:37PM

godskitchen wrote: »

That's all well and good but €400/month was for 30mbps.

Outside of Baxter and the credit union (who had it installed 2 weeks ago) I can't think of many businesses that need that kind of connection in Castlebar. Even arivo/Connaught Gold and businesses like that don't need it and I can't see them paying more money for less speed. VDSL is more than reliable for 99% of business in Castlebar.

Like everything it depends on the business - yeah fair enough if they don't need it they won't pay - but how can you make that assumption - that vdsl is fine for 99% of businesses? I would imagine it's very limiting for a lot of businesses in Ireland.

godskitchen · 03-09-2015 11:20PM

damienirel wrote: »

Like everything it depends on the business - yeah fair enough if they don't need it they won't pay - but how can you make that assumption - that vdsl is fine for 99% of businesses? I would imagine it's very limiting for a lot of businesses in Ireland.

It's more than fine for 99% of businesses in Castlebar. I do IT consulting for a lot of them so I'm not just assuming this.

ED E · 04-09-2015 08:43AM

The problem is really SLAs. If a petrol station or guest house loses their link on a Friday afternoon theyre SOL until Monday AM. That's thousands in lost revenue. With BIP circuits etc the techs are out whenever they're needed.

godskitchen · 04-09-2015 09:04AM

ED E wrote: »

The problem is really SLAs. If a petrol station or guest house loses their link on a Friday afternoon theyre SOL until Monday AM. That's thousands in lost revenue. With BIP circuits etc the techs are out whenever they're needed.

It would be cheaper to have a redundant 4g back up for the above.

I'm not for one second saying that there are not customers for such a connection as Enet, I am saying that in Castlebar the market is tiny

damienirel · 04-09-2015 01:47PM

Markets change do they not and what happens to future proofing, why should we have just good enough? Prices are high because of lack of competition not because of what they're offering as a service.

red bellied · 10-09-2015 09:42AM

In Sligo town, (Caltragh) its going live on the 12th October.

Praetorian · 10-09-2015 09:57AM

https://www.eircom.net/ultrafast/

I'm not sure if anyone posted this before, but it's actually possible to order now.

loyatemu · 10-09-2015 10:04AM

€87 per month regular price for 1Gb/s
€75 - 300Mb/s
€67 - 150Mb/s
(€30 per month for the first 4 months in all cases).

prices seem a little high considering the wholesale prices but they may be covering some of the install costs there - also it only seems to be possible to order it with a phone service, not as broadband only. For regular eFibre Vodafone are cheaper but we'll have to wait and see if they decide to resell this as they are launching their own FTTH (as Siro) shortly.

Eircom to roll out 1Gb/s FTTH to 66 towns

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