Farming Chit Chat sticks it to six.

AP2014 · 01-09-2015 10:35PM

Reggie. wrote: »

That's the thing it couldn't. What do you think happens the minute you come into contact with the enemy? Lots of noise so if they aren't shouted at from day one they can't get used to the sudden stress of battle. You hardly think the enemy will give ya time to put on ear defenders...

I think the civilian population just got a shock of how the army really is. Everyone has this notion that the army is handy and not real. For years I've been listening to thar arguement and I know half the people saying it wouldn't last the first few weeks.

A while since we came into contact with the enemy though. Hopefully those brits don't come back!

Reggie. · 01-09-2015 10:38PM

AP2014 wrote: »

A while since we came into contact with the enemy though. Hopefully those brits don't come back!

That's where your wrong. The irish public is very ill informed or educated on its defence forces and history.
That statement is more common that you think

AP2014 · 01-09-2015 10:40PM

Reggie. wrote: »

That's where your wrong. The irish public is very ill informed or educated on its defence forces and history.
That statement is more common that you think

Presume not much one on one battle with the old bayonet though? Is it mainly peace keeping and making your presence felt on missions?

Reggie. · 01-09-2015 10:42PM

AP2014 wrote: »

Presume not much one on one battle with the old bayonet though? Is it mainly peace keeping and making your presence felt on missions?

Its peace enforcing we do nowadays. Peace keeping was the old leb back in the 90s

greysides · 01-09-2015 10:43PM

Reg, can you explain the difference please?

AP2014 · 01-09-2015 10:43PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Its peace enforcing we do nowadays. Peace keeping was the old leb back in the 90s

Many battles? Causalities?

Reggie. · 01-09-2015 10:49PM

greysides wrote: »

Reg, can you explain the difference please?

Peace keeping is keeping the peace after a cease fire.

Peace enforcing is where we force two warring parties apart and create a ceasefire/ buffer zone

Reggie. · 01-09-2015 10:51PM

AP2014 wrote: »

Many battles? Causalities?

We have never lost a soldier to enemy fire but plenty to accidents

Edit...we lost a few to enemy fire in the leb in the 90s

AP2014 · 01-09-2015 10:54PM

Reggie. wrote: »

We have never lost a soldier to enemy fire but plenty to accidents

I'd say some lads are more dangerous to themselves and others alright compared to the enemy from watching that programme.

Reggie. · 01-09-2015 10:55PM

AP2014 wrote: »

I'd say some lads are more dangerous to themselves and others alright compared to the enemy from watching that programme.

Not in that sense AP. Traffic accidents mostly

AP2014 · 01-09-2015 11:01PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Not in that sense AP. Traffic accidents mostly

Ah fair enough. I'd say ya were in bigger battles late on a Saturday night in Mullingar than must missions.

That bloody town is gone serious rough.

Reggie. · 01-09-2015 11:03PM

AP2014 wrote: »

Ah fair enough. I'd say ya were in bigger battles late on a Saturday night in Mullingar than must missions. That bloody town is gone serious rough.

Not while we were there

AP2014 · 01-09-2015 11:05PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Not while we were there

Haha they need to re-open that barracks. Fair play Reggie!

EpicPothole · 01-09-2015 11:12PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Makes a man out of ya lads. Now ya know why ya dont take on soldiers as they will attack first as we are trained that way

I had to respond after seeing this.

I have 12 years experience in the military and retired nearly a decade. I have embedded experience with 3 different countries armed forces during active war zones, and this type of training on the TV was left behind by most advanced armies 20 years ago. Soldiers will not attack first! Soldiers in modern armies attack when there is no other alternative.

In the American armed forces, marines are trained to hold a gun and aim it, and be damn good at it. But there is a reason they are called grunts. And they are trained very similarly to what I saw on tv. Those men and women are forged into a one size fits all uniform, which has been identified as being of very little use in modern conflicts.

But alas..... I'm going to bed

Stereomaniac · 01-09-2015 11:19PM

What military were you a part of, would you be able to tell us? I found your post to be quite interesting there, and I don't usually post in here but was curious to hear more about it. I didn't see the programme on T.V tonight, but have been watching Homeland and 24 a lot today, so I have combat and espionage and terrorism on the brain (obviously not in the acting out sense, but you know what I mean). I was in hospital with someone who had been in the U.S military before and he said that in hindsight, they definitely did something to him emotionally and mentally that he didn't even notice at the time and that not everyone is able to come out the other end of it as the most stable.

Reggie. · 02-09-2015 05:53AM

Stereomaniac wrote: »

What military were you a part of, would you be able to tell us? I found your post to be quite interesting there, and I don't usually post in here but was curious to hear more about it. I didn't see the programme on T.V tonight, but have been watching Homeland and 24 a lot today, so I have combat and espionage and terrorism on the brain (obviously not in the acting out sense, but you know what I mean). I was in hospital with someone who had been in the U.S military before and he said that in hindsight, they definitely did something to him emotionally and mentally that he didn't even notice at the time and that not everyone is able to come out the other end of it as the most stable.

Part of the irish defence forces. Currently 15+ years service.

Unfortunately this show has brought every "expert" and "couch warrior" to the forefront to give thier 2 cent. Liveline was full of them yesterday.

Anyways this discussion is not for a farming thread. Head over to the military forum.

Reggie. · 02-09-2015 06:35AM

EpicPothole wrote: »

I had to respond after seeing this.

I have 12 years experience in the military and retired nearly a decade. I have embedded experience with 3 different countries armed forces during active war zones, and this type of training on the TV was left behind by most advanced armies 20 years ago. Soldiers will not attack first! Soldiers in modern armies attack when there is no other alternative.

In the American armed forces, marines are trained to hold a gun and aim it, and be damn good at it. But there is a reason they are called grunts. And they are trained very similarly to what I saw on tv. Those men and women are forged into a one size fits all uniform, which has been identified as being of very little use in modern conflicts.

But alas..... I'm going to bed

So your saying if a soldier is cornered or attacked he won't retaliate???
They will try to talk it out maybe...what training did you receive.

So the army hasn't changed at all in 10 years ya reckon?. Why did you leave after only serving 12 years?

I've many trips overseas myself and served with many other militaries including our own and other SF.

Like I said before this isn't for the farming forum so I'm not going to drag it out and feed the trolls.

Have to laugh as everyone seems to be an expert on the irish military and military tactics ever since that show aired :rolleyes:

visatorro · 02-09-2015 06:43AM

whatever about the army, I wouldn't fancy being on either the LE Niamh or Eithne I think they are called, the ships looking for asylum seekers in the med. They seem to have come across a couple of horror stories

Reggie. · 02-09-2015 06:53AM

visatorro wrote: »

whatever about the army, I wouldn't fancy being on either the LE Niamh or Eithne I think they are called, the ships looking for asylum seekers in the med. They seem to have come across a couple of horror stories

That's another madness case going on over there

darragh_haven · 02-09-2015 10:01AM

Reggie. wrote: »

That's another madness case going on over there

I unfortuneatly voiced my opinion on this subject in the Pub on Saturday night. I'm not very PC on the matter so I got a fair bollocking from a few of the girls in the group. Went back to talking about farming and the ****e weather very fast.

Reggie. · 02-09-2015 10:04AM

darragh_haven wrote: »

I unfortuneatly voiced my opinion on this subject in the Pub on Saturday night. I'm not very PC on the matter so I got a fair bollocking from a few of the girls in the group. Went back to talking about farming and the ****e weather very fast.

From talking to a few navy heads what is happening is this. The navy ships are patrolling off the coast of Syria or where ever. When they detect a boat a few miles offshore they intercept it, unload the people and carry them the 600 miles to Italy. It's a farce

darragh_haven · 02-09-2015 10:05AM

Reggie. wrote: »

From talking to a few navy heads what is happening is this. The navy ships are patrolling off the coast of Syria or where ever. When they detect a boat a few miles offshore they intercept it, unload the people and carry them the 600 miles to Italy. It's a farce

It encourages people to get into crap boats as they know they only have to get a few miles out to sea

Reggie. · 02-09-2015 10:06AM

darragh_haven wrote: »

It encourages people to get into crap boats

Sure If they only have to travel a few miles offshore sure why not take the risk

MickeyShtyles · 02-09-2015 10:31AM

Would anyone like some broccoli....

Reggie. · 02-09-2015 10:34AM

MickeyShtyles wrote: »

Would anyone like some broccoli....

I'll take the one on the left

MickeyShtyles · 02-09-2015 10:43AM

Reggie. wrote: »

I'll take the one on the left

Point it out there will ya?

Reggie. · 02-09-2015 11:11AM

MickeyShtyles wrote: »

Point it out there will ya?

Me backs sore just looking at that pic

MickeyShtyles · 02-09-2015 12:19PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Me backs sore just looking at that pic

Ah it's not too bad. First cut done. Six 25kg crates.

whelan2 · 02-09-2015 01:42PM

Is the deer hunting season open again?

Reggie. · 02-09-2015 02:02PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Is the deer hunting season open again?

Why have the deer suddenly disappeared

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