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Cavan nanny charged with injuring baby in Boston - Charges Dropped

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Anynama141


    17larsson wrote: »
    Well that's that then. Irish people can and do kill children either by accident or on purpose.....

    Should we hang this woman now or wait till after dinner?
    Hang on a second: you were the person who admitted a bias in the case, and that you thought she had been set up or something - total speculation based on the fact that, well, she's Irish. Total nonsense.

    I'm just pointing out that this is nonsense - I'M the guy arguing for no pre-judging the case. YOU are the person coming to the case with your view already formed, apparently on the basis of the defendant's nationality.
    17larsson wrote: »
    If you don't want to discuss the actual case then why are you posting here? Of course being Irish and not too far from where this woman is from has me hoping that she is innocent but reading the small bit of information we have so far I think there is more involved in this story than one guilty nanny if she is a guilty nanny at all
    I hope that justice is done - regardless of where the blame lies. My proximity to where the murder suspect is from is irrelevant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,693 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    17larsson wrote: »
    Well that's that then. Irish people can and do kill children either by accident or on purpose.....

    Should we hang this woman now or wait till after dinner?

    If you don't want to discuss the actual case then why are you posting here? Of course being Irish and not too far from where this woman is from has me hoping that she is innocent but reading the small bit of information we have so far I think there is more involved in this story than one guilty nanny if she is a guilty nanny at all

    How is the previous poster's observation any different to yours? You are doing the 'there is more to this story' angle and he is saying its not impossible for an Irish person to kill, neither of which contribute any more to the discussion than the other, and in view of the lack of information there really isn't anything to have a discussion about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    It looks like there has been a breakthrough for Aisling Brady McCarthy in her case. Lawyers for the Irish nanny accused of killing a Massachusetts baby said medical experts hired by prosecutors have concluded the child suffered bone fractures weeks before her death when she was not in the nanny's care.

    http://www.masslive.com/news/boston/index.ssf/2014/02/irish_nanny_cites_mass_babys_o.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭Letree


    I never thought she was guilty


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,199 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Letree wrote: »
    I never thought she was guilty

    In gambling parlance, this would be known as aftertiming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭Letree


    robbiezero wrote: »
    In gambling parlance, this would be known as aftertiming.

    First time i seen her on the news when she was arrested i said she was innocent. The look of dismay and horror on her face. It wasn't a look of 'oh **** I've been caught'. It was unmistakable as far as i was concerned.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    JJJJNR wrote: »

    2 and a half years in jail, a reputation ruined etc

    Will she get any compensation for this? It's not often I think people should be compensated, but my god in this case it's justified.


  • Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Stheno wrote: »

    Will she get any compensation for this? It's not often I think people should be compensated, but my god in this case it's justified.


    Pretty sure not and their defence fees must have been astronomical..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,071 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    Prosecutors claimed that the Irish Government would try to sneak the Irish woman back to Ireland if reduced bail was granted. Assistant District Attorney Joe Gentile warned that it was “extremely difficult” to extradite someone from Ireland.
    Ms McCarthy’s attorney told the court that the claim was “baseless” and “absolutely ludicrous.”
    “There is absolutely no reason to believe that the Irish Government is trying to sneak Ms McCarthy out or that she wants to get out,” Ms Thompson told reporters. “She is not going anywhere.”

    Still no apology to Irish state by the district attorney who accused the Department of Foreign Affairs of planning to reissue a passport to Mrs McCarthy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭TheLastMohican


    Prosecutors claimed that the Irish Government would try to sneak the Irish woman back to Ireland if reduced bail was granted. Assistant District Attorney Joe Gentile warned that it was “extremely difficult” to extradite someone from Ireland.
    Ms McCarthy’s attorney told the court that the claim was “baseless” and “absolutely ludicrous.”
    “There is absolutely no reason to believe that the Irish Government is trying to sneak Ms McCarthy out or that she wants to get out,” Ms Thompson told reporters. “She is not going anywhere.”

    Chris___ wrote: »
    Still no apology to Irish state by the district attorney who accused the Department of Foreign Affairs of planning to reissue a passport to Mrs McCarthy.


    A muffled apology will appear later. This is the usual Waspish shit that emanates from Brit-loving yahoos in eastern Mass.
    You've only got to remember Salem to see that they have not really evolved at the same speed as the rest of the animal kingdom.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭delahuntv


    amazing how the picture of her in the media, especially the Indo, has changed.

    Up til yesterday it was a very unflattering photo, then today they are suddenly using a very pretty image.

    But sure that's the indo for you these days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    Prosecutors claimed that the Irish Government would try to sneak the Irish woman back to Ireland if reduced bail was granted. Assistant District Attorney Joe Gentile warned that it was “extremely difficult” to extradite someone from Ireland.
    Ms McCarthy’s attorney told the court that the claim was “baseless” and “absolutely ludicrous.”
    “There is absolutely no reason to believe that the Irish Government is trying to sneak Ms McCarthy out or that she wants to get out,” Ms Thompson told reporters. “She is not going anywhere.”





    A muffled apology will appear later. This is the usual Waspish shit that emanates from Brit-loving yahoos in eastern Mass.
    You've only got to remember Salem to see that they have not really evolved at the same speed as the rest of the animal kingdom.
    It's said there is a contingent of those types all right in New England (not yahoos - uppercrust elitists) but citing 17th century practices when the rest of the world was also as superstitious, is a bit of a stretch.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 94 ✭✭Rym Shanley


    Has she ever smiled?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,949 ✭✭✭Mesrine65


    Has she ever smiled?
    Would you smile if you'd been banged up for 2+ years & an accusation of murdering a baby hanging over you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    So will the parents be done for this now ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 94 ✭✭Rym Shanley


    Mesrine65 wrote: »
    Would you smile if you'd been banged up for 2+ years & an accusation of murdering a baby hanging over you?

    If I was innocent, yes.

    If I was guilty, no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    If I was innocent, yes.

    If I was guilty, no.

    That'd work out well for the headline writers...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    If I was innocent, yes.

    If I was guilty, no.

    She must be guilty so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭TheLastMohican


    It's said there is a contingent of those types all right in New England (not yahoos - uppercrust elitists) but citing 17th century practices when the rest of the world was also as superstitious, is a bit of a stretch.

    A person's rank in life does not exclude one from being a yahoo. "The Yahoos are primitive creatures obsessed with "pretty stones" they find by digging in mud, thus representing the distasteful materialism and ignorant elitism Swift encountered in Britain." (Wiki) ......... but you know what I mean.

    As regards Salem ......... allegorical thinking on my behalf .......... McCarthyism, KKK etc. The undercurrent of paranoia that pervades US thinking goes back to the reason why the Puritans set sail in the first place. This, seemingly inherited, thought process is one of the root causes of war-mongering by the US and NRA membership.

    Der Spiegel encapsulates it nicely:http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/paranoia-has-undermined-united-states-claim-to-liberal-democracy-a-932326.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Stheno wrote: »
    2 and a half years in jail, a reputation ruined etc

    Will she get any compensation for this? It's not often I think people should be compensated, but my god in this case it's justified.

    I'd imagine compensation would depend on what new evidence has come to light and other things that may have changed. At the time she was found guilty and sentenced the available evidence may have been legit so nobody could really be found to have acted improperly in that case.

    It'd be interesting to know what changed the medical examiners opinion.

    Also, she was an illegal immigrant at the time so that might be a roadblock to seeking compensation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭17larsson


    I'd imagine compensation would depend on what new evidence has come to light and other things that may have changed. At the time she was found guilty and sentenced the available evidence may have been legit so nobody could really be found to have acted improperly in that case.

    It'd be interesting to know what changed the medical examiners opinion.

    Also, she was an illegal immigrant at the time so that might be a roadblock to seeking compensation.

    She was never found guilty of anything or sentenced


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'd imagine compensation would depend on what new evidence has come to light and other things that may have changed. At the time she was found guilty and sentenced the available evidence may have been legit so nobody could really be found to have acted improperly in that case.

    It'd be interesting to know what changed the medical examiners opinion.

    Also, she was an illegal immigrant at the time so that might be a roadblock to seeking compensation.
    The medical examiner said the decision to change the cause and manner of death came after additional materials were reviewed.
    These included expert witness reports, additional transcripts of police interviews, transcripts of testimony heard ahead of the planned trial, additional medical records and additional medical testing related to the girl's death.
    The reports states: "These additional materials put forth several different and often conflicting opinions about the cause of Rehma's death.
    "In particular the overall state of Rehma's health and her past medical issues raise the possibility that she had some type of disorder that was not able to be completely diagnosed prior to her death."
    The report said Rehma had a history of bruising and that she might have been prone to easy bleeding with relatively minor trauma.
    "Given these uncertainties, I am no longer convinced that the subdural haemorrhage in this case could only have been caused by abusive/inflicted head trauma, and I can no longer rule the manner of death as a homicide," the medical examiner added.
    "I believe that enough evidence has been presented to raise the possibility that the bleeding could have been related to an accidental injury in a child with a bleeding risk or possibly could have even been a result of an undefined natural disease.

    She was never convicted of anything though,she spent all that time in jail on a charge


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭deandean


    She was never convicted of anything though,she spent all that time in jail on a charge

    'Murica.
    I find it hard to understand how she spent 2.5 years in jail, when the one or two people involved in the Jason Corbett killing - where it is admitted the poor guy was killed with a baseball bat - remain free.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,786 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    I'd imagine compensation would depend on what new evidence has come to light and other things that may have changed. At the time she was found guilty and sentenced the available evidence may have been legit so nobody could really be found to have acted improperly in that case.

    It'd be interesting to know what changed the medical examiners opinion.

    Also, she was an illegal immigrant at the time so that might be a roadblock to seeking compensation.

    She was never guilty, the whole thing was a witch hunt. Read the facts.

    I'm sure the work that legal team are doing is pro bono, the publicity the legal team are getting is worth thousands alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭denhaagenite


    If I was innocent, yes.

    If I was guilty, no.

    She must be guilty then. Imagine pouting about being locked up in an American prison for two years for no reason, with no real evidence. She should have been delighted about it :confused:

    My heart goes out to the poor woman. The case stank to high heaven from the very beginning. I hope she can get her life back on track, she must be completely traumatised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    She was never convicted of anything though,she spent all that time in jail on a charge

    huh, I thought she had been found guilty and sentenced considering she was in jail for so long. It's fcuked up that a person can be held without trial for almost 3 years in a first world western country.

    Though it is America so I'm not shocked either. And those scumbags have the nerve to criticise other countries


  • Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    deandean wrote: »
    'Murica.
    I find it hard to understand how she spent 2.5 years in jail, when the one or two people involved in the Jason Corbett killing - where it is admitted the poor guy was killed with a baseball bat - remain free.


    Thats because she was in the US illegally and the prosecution successfully argued that she was a flight risk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    Has she ever smiled?

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/irish-nanny-plans-to-sue-over-wrongful-detention-in-us-1.2499797
    Irish nanny Aisling Brady McCarthy, against whom a murder charge was dropped in the United States over the death of a baby in her care, plans to sue over her wrongful detention....

    ....She spent 27 months in a prison and a further three months under house arrest before Middlesex County district attorney dropped the charges.


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