Silvio Berlusconi appreciation thread

JanaMay · 29-08-2015 06:17PM

Aidric wrote: »

Surely bench-marking a European leader against an African one would be forlorn no?

I'm not disputing the man is sleazy, what Italian man isn't, but there is a certain hypocrisy in other Europeans slamming him when their own leaders are just as sleazy. They might not be as overt as him but they are just as sleazy.

Are you for real? Would you be happy to pay your taxes to a government whose head selected some of their representatives (MEPs etc) on their ability to give bl@wj?bs? Would you like to pay taxes to a govt who made it easier for companies to sack employees on a whim? Who cut funding for schools? A man who has known links to Mafia organisations and P2? Really? It's not just a question of him being sleazy (though I really doubt that other EU leaders are quite so sleazy), the man had shIItty policies, Italy was corrupt as fúk under him, and he is a known criminal.

Also lol at 'what Italian man isn't sleazy?'...

Annasopra · 29-08-2015 06:22PM

Aidric wrote: »

Jackie Healy Rae had a similar rainbow comb over to Silvio as well as a similar nod and wink culture and nobody batted an eyelid. It's easy to cast judgement from afar but when you take a look closer t home you realise we aren't all that different.

Lol - ypu are seriously comparing JHR to Berlusconi. They're nothing alike in terms of corruption!!

RDM_83 again · 29-08-2015 06:27PM

Aidric wrote: »

He is many things, but a clown he is not. A well educated man who built a massive media empire.

I think the reason so many people latch on to his 'personality' is because he is completely non conformist or non PC.

Its also worth keeping in mind that though Berlusconi is corrupt and probably dangerous, compared to a leader like Giulio Andreotti was (or at least the image Andreotti has, these things are very hard to prove) he's a harmless puppy.

Aidric · 29-08-2015 06:27PM

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Lol - ypu are seriously comparing JHR to Berlusconi. They're nothing alike in terms of corruption!!

Just comparing their hairlines tbh.

29-08-2015 07:00PM

Old Jakey wrote: »

Yeah and I'm sure the women you and your friends **** over are beautiful mature women!

So you **** over teenage girls, albeit legit ones.

Good man. Nothing wrong with that. Insisting that everyone does is where you are wrong though.

Old Jakey · 29-08-2015 07:23PM

Deleted User wrote: »

So you **** over teenage girls, albeit legit ones.

Good man. Nothing wrong with that. Insisting that everyone does is where you are wrong though.

Yes because when you jerk it, you're watching movies of 'beautiful mature' women. Sure mate.

Cold War Kid · 29-08-2015 07:29PM

So true - everyone's taste in everything is the exact same, and anyone claiming to have a different taste is lying.

Also, if only it wasn't a case of just women in their teens/early 20s max. and "mature" women in their late 30s/40s and no women aged in between.

29-08-2015 08:02PM

Cold War Kid wrote: »

So true - everyone's taste in everything is the exact same, and anyone claiming to have a different taste is lying.

Also, if only it wasn't a case of just women in their teens/early 20s max. and "mature" women in their late 30s/40s and no women aged in between.

Poor Old Jakey, surrounded by pics of 17 year olds and used tissue as age advances. I think his image of older men is based on Kevin Spacey's character in American Beauty!

Hans Bricks · 29-08-2015 08:19PM

Are there actually straight men here ridiculing other men over sexual attraction to young adult women ?? Jesus christ.

Fair play to Berlusconi and his zest for life at 70 odd. Sounds like better fun than men less than half his age. Certainly less of a drainer than some of the commentators here.

Cold War Kid · 29-08-2015 08:34PM

Hans Bricks wrote: »

Are there actually straight men here ridiculing other men over sexual attraction to young adult women ?? Jesus christ.

Fair play to Berlusconi and his zest for life at 70 odd. Sounds like better fun than men less than half his age. Certainly less of a drainer than some of the commentators here.

But there's the whole corruption thing. It's disingenuous to pretend this is just about begrudging Berlusconi having fun/perving on teenage girls (bet it would be considered sad by non powerful men his age).

I think the ridiculing thing came from men telling other men they fancy girls in their teens and were lying if they said they didn't. Nothing wrong with men fancying teenage girls and very young women but it's not as commonplace as is being insisted here.

RDM_83 again · 29-08-2015 08:46PM

Hans Bricks wrote: »

Are there actually straight men here ridiculing other men over sexual attraction to young adult women ?? Jesus christ.

Fair play to Berlusconi and his zest for life at 70 odd. Sounds like better fun than men less than half his age. Certainly less of a drainer than some of the commentators here.

I'd be more concerned with his domination of the media, his links to serious corruption and his reveling in wealth and privilege in a country where if your young unless your lucky your only choice if you don't want a life in limbo or poverty is to leave than if he's got an eye for young ladies (it is symptomatic of the wealth and privilege thing though)

29-08-2015 08:52PM

Hans Bricks wrote: »

Are there actually straight men here ridiculing other men over sexual attraction to young adult women ?? Jesus Christ.

Nope.

Read them again.

And the last paragraph of Cold War Kids last post, which helpfully spells it out for you.

Why do you and Old Jakey reach for the gay angle? Surely we are a few decades beyond the "no interest in a 17 year old? Must be gay" stuff?

JanaMay · 29-08-2015 09:07PM

RDM_83 again wrote: »

Its also worth keeping in mind that though Berlusconi is corrupt and probably dangerous, compared to a leader like Giulio Andreotti was (or at least the image Andreotti has, these things are very hard to prove) he's a harmless puppy.

Andreotti was a criminal gangster príck as well.

LETHAL LADY · 29-08-2015 09:09PM

He's amusing for a slimeball.

Mr_Muffin · 29-08-2015 09:10PM

How do people know he was corrupt?

badabing106 · 29-08-2015 10:42PM

take everything wrote: »

Berlusconi is Berlusconi.
A clown.
It's the saddos thinking he's the man that are more pathetic.

Serious question. Berlusconi is one of the world's top business men. He has friends in top places. He is a very influential and powerful man

Do you think he would have rolled over like a pet Labrador, the way Cowen did?

Would you call him a clown if he saved this country from economic destruction?

Streetwalker · 29-08-2015 10:45PM

Have to say I like the guy

wp_rathead · 29-08-2015 10:57PM

Mr_Muffin wrote: »

How do people know he was corrupt?

Seriously? 0_o

Arytonblue · 29-08-2015 11:03PM

wp_rathead wrote: »

Seriously? 0_o

The money was just resting in his bunga bunga yacht to be fair.

29-08-2015 11:08PM

badabing106 wrote: »

Serious question. Berlusconi is one of the world's top business men. He has friends in top places. He is a very influential and powerful man

Do you think he would have rolled over like a pet Labrador, the way Cowen did?

Would you call him a clown if he saved this country from economic destruction?

In the period 2000-2010 only Haiti and Zimbabwe had lower GDP growth than Italy.

RDM_83 again · 29-08-2015 11:22PM

JanaMay wrote: »

Andreotti was a criminal gangster príck as well.

Thats my point Androtti was worse, he just didn't portray this clown like image that Berlusconi does.
And to be fair, Berlusconi does it well, he's a Bertie at 1000%

Annasopra · 29-08-2015 11:32PM

Mr_Muffin wrote: »

How do people know he was corrupt?

His many convictions. They don't ban someone from being an MP for nothing ffs

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-12403119

http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/Silvio_Berlusconi.aspx

Old Jakey · 30-08-2015 12:38AM

Hans Bricks wrote: »

Are there actually straight men here ridiculing other men over sexual attraction to young adult women ?? Jesus christ.

Fair play to Berlusconi and his zest for life at 70 odd. Sounds like better fun than men less than half his age. Certainly less of a drainer than some of the commentators here.

Yes it is a little odd when you think about it, 'straight' men claiming they're not attracted to young women...Anyway I sure wouldn't mind attending one of his parties!

Tarzana2 · 30-08-2015 01:08AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Why do you and Old Jakey reach for the gay angle? Surely we are a few decades beyond the "no interest in a 17 year old? Must be gay" stuff?

Well, is it really that surprising that someone who thinks Berlusconi is a "LEGEND, LOL" would come out with guff like this?

Junkyard Tom · 30-08-2015 01:23AM

I wonder would the 'he's a legend' gang be so turned on by the likes of SB if they found out some old guy was riding their 17-year-old sister.

I don't wonder really.

Cold War Kid · 30-08-2015 01:31AM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

I wonder would the 'he's a legend' gang be so turned on by the likes of SB if they found out some old guy was riding their 17-year-old sister.

I don't wonder really.

They'd be the first to bay for blood.

"But he's so coooooool!" - what the fuk are they? 14?

Sever Tomorrow · 30-08-2015 01:43AM

Cold War Kid wrote: »

But there's the whole corruption thing. It's disingenuous to pretend this is just about begrudging Berlusconi having fun/perving on teenage girls (bet it would be considered sad by non powerful men his age).

I think the ridiculing thing came from men telling other men they fancy girls in their teens and were lying if they said they didn't. Nothing wrong with men fancying teenage girls and very young women but it's not as commonplace as is being insisted here.

With all due respect, you can't back up that claim. It would require some kind of mass worldwide survey on the male mind. Would anybody go to those lengths for something so trivial?

Junkyard Tom · 30-08-2015 01:44AM

Cold War Kid wrote: »

what the fuk are they? 14?

Hopefully.

Cold War Kid · 30-08-2015 01:47AM

Well going by anecdotal experience, most guys who are mid 20s onwards whom I know wouldn't be interested in women aged 17 to very early 20s, because they consider them annoying more than anything. That doesn't mean they'd consider the attractive ones unattractive but they're not going out of their way to "pull" them. There's more to men's brains than how some of their fellow men like to depict them.

Sever Tomorrow · 30-08-2015 02:02AM

I took your cue from "fancying" and reduced it to the most base level of attraction/lust, I believe it was fair to do so, going by that.

I'd have a few anecdotes to support that myself, from men of all ages and of course I know personally what a cesspit the male mind can be at times. :pac:

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